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Is it safe to come back into the guestbook yet? I've been afraid to enter due to the amount of backstabbing going on. Sure Jacqueline deserves some critism for some of the things she says, (as do a lot of people on here do also) but constructive critism, not downright bitterness & hatred. What is everyones problem with her, it has suddenly gone from witty & catty reproofs to a complete & utter witch hunt. It is not funny & I dread to think about the image of Seaham strangers coming into the guestbook will get. Come on people lets get this guestbook back to some order PLEASE.
Dee
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 14:33:32 (PDT)

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- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 14:13:38 (PDT)

hi is there any1 who went to westlea junior school and is at northlea now?
Michael Thompson <michael_safc48@hotmail.com>
Consett, durham uk - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 13:45:32 (PDT)

J USA its nice to be apreciated. thank you
Seahamlad
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 13:06:19 (PDT)

Jackie - you PROMISED, now bug our FOREVER
WE ARE NOT AMUSED
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:58:55 (PDT)

England 3 Lick a Stein 1, check the time of my post and see how right I am.
David Deck Him
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:57:51 (PDT)

"Seahamlad" Thank you so much for working so hard at changing the topics on this G/B it has been "testy" lately and I tried to change the topics but to no avail - so thanks! Now people! Settle down..
J USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:56:40 (PDT)

...would like to THROUGH you all into a BOWEL, dare I say OUCH! Do you mean THROW into a BOWL you dim wit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the attention of John Steed
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:55:49 (PDT)

No Ordinary Day I greeted this morning as I often greet each day, Mentally listing what I need to do and say; The tasks I need to tackle, phone calls to make, What I wanted to accomplish once I was fully awake. I routinely reached over and picked up the remote, I checked the weather reports and made mental notes. Reassured by the reporters whom I know by name, Noticing the news was basically the same. I had my devotion time as I started my day, Comforted by the Psalms and what they had to say. I thought of so many people as I scanned my prayer list, Trying to make sure no prayer request was missed. I asked God to watch over both family and friends, Help us face this day, not knowing what it sends. I casually resumed the volume on the TV Not paying close attention, not taking time to see. As I went about my normal morning routine, I glanced at the news again, not believing what I'd seen. I immediately returned to my time with God in prayer, As I reached my hand up to my cheek to brush away a tear. I often pray for our country and even people I do not know, Asking God to lead us in the direction we should go. Listening to this tragedy as it started to unfold, Reminded me again that so much is out of our control. Immediately I felt so alone and so very small, My problems did not seem so important after all. I thought of my previous worries and fears, And realized how thankful I am for a God who really cares. There are so many uncertainties right now, But God is still beside us and we'll make it through somehow. Our faith will pull us through this time of unrest, We have to believe our God always knows what's best. At this moment we feel so weak and numb, Knowing that understanding in our minds may never come. We know that God is bigger than even terrorists attacks, His love for His children is a well known fact. Even at times like these when terrible events unfold, We have the peace and comfort that He is in control. He'll never forsake us or leave us all alone, He's even closer than our nearest telephone. My prayer is that in the days that lie ahead, God's majesty shines brightly through all that's done and said. May there never be a single doubt in anyone's mind, That God offers peace and comfort of a lasting kind. Thank you God, for your presence and your unending love too, Please God, bless America and Seaham Harbor too please help to see us through.
Seahamlad
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:47:55 (PDT)

In the still hours of the night Angels descend from above; They come to ease the suffering Of those crying out for love. They know where a heart is aching, A body that's wracked with pain; A soul reaching out to Heaven, To be with a loved one again. They tend to the sick and dying, Give comfort to those who grieve, Blessed with strong healing powers They touch each soul as they leave. Warm hearts filled with compassion They shine with radiant light. These are God's special angels, Who visit us mortals at night. So when you are tired and weary Of the weight of the cross that you bear In the darkness an angel will call Bringing you comfort and care.
Seahamlad
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:44:40 (PDT)

Our lives are in God's loving hands We know this to be true, For He is with us constantly He's part of all we do. And if our faith is strong enough We'll never walk alone, For with His great and perfect love He takes care of His own. So any time that trials or burdens Seem to come your way, Find strength and hope in knowing God is with you every day. Our lives are in God's loving hands We know this to be true, For He is with us constantly He's part of all we do. And if our faith is strong enough We'll never walk alone, For with His great and perfect love He takes care of His own. So any time that trials or burdens Seem to come your way, Find strength and hope in knowing God is with you every day. Our lives are in God's loving hands We know this to be true, For He is with us constantly He's part of all we do. And if our faith is strong enough We'll never walk alone, For with His great and perfect love He takes care of His own. So any time that trials or burdens Seem to come your way, Find strength and hope in knowing God is with you every day.
Seahamlad
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:41:56 (PDT)

Now that, Avenger, could make for something worthy of posting to the G/B about...good call mate!
J
USA - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 11:41:14 (PDT)

"J" USA, Twigger, Amuse and any other CRAPP lot: I would like to through you all into a big bowel of custard.
Avenger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 10:48:28 (PDT)

Y'all are pathetic!!!!
No wonder these American are laughing at y'all
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 10:23:50 (PDT)

Jacqueline Mary Markie, call yourself a good catholic girl and blaspheming the way you just did a few posts ago, you should be ashamed young girl.
Former Teacher
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:59:26 (PDT)

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- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:54:59 (PDT)

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Jay You Ess Ay
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:52:37 (PDT)

Jackie pet, go and do some good deeds, AND KEEP YOUR PROMISE, GET OFF THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chase me, please chase me!
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:51:12 (PDT)

"Bexhibit" well I guess I have a well rounded colorful personality. Well.. so what if I have caused some of this myself - don't you think that some people are just being plain ignorant and mean. The person who wrote about my taking my notes off "friends" and saying, if you want to have a last laugh at me...what in God's name is all of that about. Do some people literally hate me even though they have not seen me for aproximately 13 years or longer. I moved away 16 years ago. Am I still hated? Why would I ever want to go back there? I just don't! I guess some people have not grown up and are still they were in school. As for John, well... it was an honest mistake and I hope he would know that and realize what has been going on.
J
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:45:49 (PDT)

http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/FriendsReunited.asp?wci=MemberNotes&member_key=13266969
Ginger Bread Man
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:44:22 (PDT)

Well, poof to the lot of you, Seaham and its people stink! And at least you can't call me knackered knockers, mine work. I will never ever post here again - Jacqueline Markie. In fact I'm so peeved I've taken my notes off Friends Reunited as I don't have any friends anymore. I will be removing my photograph soon, take a look now if you want a last laugh at me.
"J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:36:29 (PDT)

Calm down Jacqueline, I hardly think that just because I agreed with J I slandered you. I do think you show loads of sides to your personality. You say you're reserved and then talk about having a crush on someone on the net. That's not the behaviour of a reserved person. would you be interested to know about my teenage crushes? I'm sure you wouldn't and I'm sure that no one else is either. You say you don't slag people off, but you go on to say you have more grace and class than people who knew you and you accuse me of slander, and accuse single mothers of being immoral. That is slagging people off in my book. In one of your earlier entries a couple of years ago you specifically named several people you went to school with and then went on to point out how you were doing better than them. I remember you wrote about living well being the best revenge. You sounded very bitter and far from full of grace and class. Finally you write you hated living in Seaham anyway. Then why are you always on this guestbook talking about your private life and then complaining when people comment on it? Jacqueline, you slag people's lifestyles off all the time, while praising yourself, so don't pretend you have any moral authority over the single mothers you appear to look down upon. And by the way it wan't me who let out your 'secret' that wise one was John Armes. But it has been obvious to me and to many others that I've spoken to that wise one was John because you've talked about having a crush on him before and have gone on about St. John's Church choir and stuff. I think you let your own secret out. Me and my friends could see what was going on, but we weren't really interested enough to comment until now when you start slagging off all and sundry. If you wanted it to be a secret why do you keep going on about it, why not keep your private life private? Maybe you've just betrayed John's confidence by mentioning his divorce. Did you think about that? I haven't slandered you I've just ocmmented on the comments you and others have chosen to make about yourself in this public arena.
Bunyard's Exhibition <bexhibition@aol.com>
seaham, - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:33:31 (PDT)

language (and spelling, everywhere) Markie, who you calling a liar
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:31:24 (PDT)

you asked "And what the heck is Knackered old kinckers" ...........what are 'kinckers?' and I'm really pleased you're bugging out for good Markie
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:29:35 (PDT)

"Amused" USA you are British - I have just spoke to J USA and it is you posting those postings. You are the liar, the two faced idiot!!! I hope you are proud of the trouble you have caused - your British Spelling gave it away - aren't you wise! NOT!!!!
Wiser than you!
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 09:25:47 (PDT)

Okay folks, I am done with this silliness. I will not post anymore. Regards to you all and have a great time. BTW...Seaham sounds like a lovely, quaint town. Perhaps if I have the good fortune of visiting the UK again, I will be able to spend a little time in Seaham.
No Longer Amused
USA - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:41:36 (PDT)

"knackered knickers"???...LOL...how can they be?...they get no action last I heard.
Amused
USA - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:36:14 (PDT)

"Twigger" I know very well when John's Birthday is, (The 12th month of the year) when Jacqueline's Birthday is (2 days after my Birhday.) and when Michael's Birthday is. (2 days before the end of the Month when not a leap year.)
"J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:35:34 (PDT)

So "Twigger" who is the cowardly lion now? Not going to say which of the Armes kid you are??? And what the heck is "Knackered old kinckers" I don't live in that town and no longer speak the "jargen" I have forgot what some of the sayings mean.
J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:26:40 (PDT)

poof to you too, old knackered knickers!
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:17:07 (PDT)

Oh so which of the "Armes" are you??? The left or the right or the wrong! Jackie or Michael? Also, you are a wee bit slow.. I thought it was obvious who I was. Up until just recently, I have always signed my full name. "Going on 7!" well poof to you! How do you expect me to react when all my info is being distrubted over this G/B??? I am not going to just sit here and take it without defending myself. "J" from USA and "J" me obviously had some stuff to sort out and I think we may have accomplished that, (it is no one's business - what a nosy little town this is - Don't you ever wonder why I never want to come back and sometimes I have thought about it - as we are all grown up! But oh my! no, no, no.. people of this town have to hold grudges and forget that y'all have changed.. so have I... And so what if I have the "knack" of making a hash of somethings - I am not perfect and neither are y'all.
J USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:15:20 (PDT)

John is 36 going on 37, you are 34 going on 7 by my reckoning, also, twigger is the person who twigged who you were and it does not relate to you being skinny (are you), see how you bollocks up everything you touch or get connected with, bug out bird!
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 08:05:01 (PDT)

TO "Jackies age" First, my name is NOT "Jackie" It never has been Jackie - that is not the name I was ever given. I was given "Jacqueline." Also, I am not 36 years old - shows what you know. If I was class of '85 You do the math.
J"USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:49:52 (PDT)

Amused = Armes - talk about twigger! Poor John is lankey and his sister was also skinny too. You don't need to talk about me being twiggy - y'all were!
"J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:46:41 (PDT)

"twigger" stop! "M" is not from this area it is none of your business. "J" from USA and me, "J" USA know what we are talking about. No one else needs to know. Also, why did you write "J - Jackie" twigger. I am not twigger like I was in school. I may be thin, but not skinny minny!
"J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:44:31 (PDT)

"Ammused" USA fine.. I think we ought to dispense this conversation once and for all. Also, mind you, what I was told from "M" you also told me stuff .. so were you giving me an unbiased perception of the whole thing. I should never have been told any stuff - not from you or from "M" I was so loyal... then got the wrap of also feeling guilty. Okay, okay, enough of this...
"J" USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:41:15 (PDT)

only one M in amused Jackie
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:38:44 (PDT)

and "M" could only be, wait for it . . . . . . Marie
Twigger
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:37:51 (PDT)

"Ammused" Do you want the schedule or not?
"J"
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:36:58 (PDT)

Pack it in you two!
Twigger <(not tigger)>
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:36:02 (PDT)

J = Jackie
Twigger <(not tigger)>
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:35:46 (PDT)

Should have twigged before now..........AMUSED = ARMES
Twigger <(not tigger)>
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:35:21 (PDT)

Come, come now Markie! When your only source of info about an individual is the individual's EX-spouse or Ex-girlfriend, do you really feel you are getting unbiased and objective information about that individual. There is a reason for those two little letters "EX" you know dear. Ah but alas, you always were rather presumptuous as well as naive by actually assuming yourself to be of a higher status than simply a servant. So you see, perhaps it is you that should back off and go about your own business. Now, let's dispense of this matter and let it go. Bye.
Amused
USA - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:26:50 (PDT)

"Amused U"------- Just go about your business - You are NOT perfect either you know. I was told many stories about you too for a few weeks from "M" I have questioned them a lot, and never wanted to believe what I was told was true - but you know - I just don't know. You are not perfect and I never ever said I was perfect or try to be above the Saints. I am human and I too, make Human Error, just as you and everyone else does. Just go about your business and I too. (What about the Schedule? Do you want it or not?)
J USA
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 07:12:11 (PDT)

Well said Amused
Supporter of "Amused"
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 06:25:05 (PDT)

Markie, what on Earth are you talking about in your most recent posting?...You have some nerve to assert that YOU have been slandered...you want to talk about slander?...LOL...if I posted a mere fraction of some of things that you have attempted to do to me and others whilst here in the USA, it would keep this G/B buzzing for days. Why would the G/B be buzzing? Because all the folks on here know that you would do as usual and continue to work diligently to hold yourself up to the crowd as some sort of token saint or martyr who could never do any wrong. Remember...you are entitled to your OWN morals and personal convictions, as am I, as is every other person in this great big world. So I leave you with a question, is it really moral to force one's own beliefs on others to the point that it causes true harm of any kind? Come on Markie, get out that good old Catholic conscience...geesh, we already had a Saviour...approximately 2,003 years, so let it go hon.
Amused
USA - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 05:48:00 (PDT)

I REPEAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT.............................................. Markie, you two faced so and so. You liar, you said you would never come back. Keep your word? You couldn't!
U
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 05:39:14 (PDT)

36 to be precise
Jackies age
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 05:35:53 (PDT)

"BeExhibit" Again, Slander !!! I could care less if you knew me at home, I hated living in that town anyway! Everyone knew my business there and was told I would be a society failure from the beginning. Why would I ever want to come back to Seaham anyway for??? Also, I think it is I, who have more grace, I do not "Slander" people's names on this Guest Book. Whereas you, and multitude of others write my full name and slander it. I am a 30 something year old woman, and have more class than most who knew me in school. By the way, I never got pregnanet out of wedlock, (Like many did in school.) have yet to be married, but single by being choosy and keeping "morals" therefore, have not been divorced - as many already have who I knew in school. I do Humanitarian work here in New York and am very happy with what I am doing. I think if I were to come home, you and others may well be surprised. "J" from USA has NOT "Hit the nail on the head" He and I have some form of link due to an "Issue" we were both emotionally involved with. "J" and I are still a little cross with each other. Also, John Armes, according to sources to know him very well.. at the moment he and is wife are separating. Yes, he is still married in the eyes of God and the eyes of the Church and thereore, I would NEVER consider dating such a man. John and I are friends and have had fun via this G/B but it has all been spoilt because of people like yourself who has to slander others people's character on this G/B instead of minding your own business. John and I were just having fun. Anyway, so let us all think about this shall we? who has more grace and class? who slanders people's character on this G/B? who gives out "confidential" information? Who tries to always change the topics to intellectual debates of our soeciety and then who gets slandered again, because I am more reserved than some of you back home, and not to forget, become "Americanized" which you all don't like anyway. So who is always the target? Yes, that is right, it is me! Why? because some of you on here forget that as you grew up and changed - a nd have accomplished things in your lives, so did I grew up, changed and have acomplished some beautiful things in my life and had some wonderful expereinces here in USA and In Germany and Switzerland and other parts of eastern Europe, as it was back then. I think you are all still living back in the early 80's.. and it is time to get back to reality and live in 2003 - and that is not to say, that you have to act like the immoral, loose society of 2003......
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 04:33:22 (PDT)

Dear Mr. Armes, I have to say, you must have some ego. Not only do you call yourself wise one, but you seem to actively encourage poor Ms. Markie to pour her heart out for you in a most undignified manner infront of heaps of people. It would have been more gentlemanly for you to suggest she e mailed you directly about such personal matters. At first I thought that you hadn't taken this pretty obvious gallant step because of your ego, maybe you like to be praised in public. But now it turns out you have a wife. I took the opportunity to look back through some old e mails from the 1990s and it was refreshing to see how the guestbook was once used for its intended purpose. It seems like Jacqueline needn't worry about John not returning her public affections though, as Marie certainly seems to hero worship Jacqueline, who apparently has more class than any of us who knew her. Strong sentiments indeed. I prefer to tell my wife that I love her in private, but the three of you don't seem to have the maturity to conduct your affairs in private. But you do seem to have flair for being drama queens. Or is the real reason you prefer to heap out praise in public that you don't want someone's wife to read the messages? J seems to have hit the nail on the head when s/he wrote about multiple personalities. Hope James the cat is doing well.
Bunyard's exhibition <bexhibition@aol.com>
seaham, - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 03:09:14 (PDT)

I read the poam Lisa made to her grandad and it brought tears to my eyes I worked with her mam for years but lost touch but if by chance she sees this e-mail I give you my condolances and love to you all from pat and Nadine
pat laing <lilybeth10@hotmail.com>
peterlee, uk - Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 01:36:46 (PDT)

Markie, you two faced so and so. You liar, you said you would never come back. Keep your word? You couldn't!
Unwise One
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 01:24:18 (PDT)

Who think the US road to Peace in Israel will not go through? Just as there will never truly be peace in Northern Ireland, or within Iraq, I think the same for Israel and Palastine - they have been fighting for decades and the hatred is bred within them. They do not know another way of life. I will be very surprised if the peace plan for Israel eventually succeeds. Biblically, it has to, in order for Jesus to return there has to be peace in Israel.
Purple Heather
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 00:36:33 (PDT)

I see that the Boston Diocese has to pay 85million in the largest settlement of the Catholic Church to the 500 or so victims who suffered at the hands of sexual abuse of some of the Priests. As a practicing Catholic I have to say, I am so very glad that the Church is finally paying this settlement. For years it has been covered up by the Bishops and maybe by the Pope? (I hope he did not cover up for it) I do not understand some of the "old ways" of the Catholic Church. A few of my friends attended Catholic school back in the 50's and 60's and they all say the Catholic Schools, which were run by the Priests and Nuns were terrible! I have also seen "Angela's Ashes" based on the life of the Irish Immigrrant "Frank M'Court" where he was treated terrible by the nuns at school and his mother was humiliated by the Priests because she had to go on welfare. Though, most of the Priest and Nuns who have not lived up to their "calling" I am sure will be paying for it in Pugortary. I really enjoy my Catholic faith, because I believe in the Sacraments and in the divine assistance of our Blessed Mother, Mary and the Saints (just as we do really in the Church of England - as we, C of E and R.C both say the Nicene Creed.) But I disagree with the Catholic Politics very much. I also disagree that it is perceived a 'sin" for a Catholic to receive Communion in a non- Catholic Church - I just don't get that, and never will. Because if I were to ever return to Seaham I would attend St. John's Church and be very comfortable receiving my Communion there. Anyway... just wanted to share with you all the latest news here in USA.. Aside from the other Political "War" news.----------------- I think we need to get our G/B back to some sense! Stop witht the "Cat Fighting!" We are all above that - I hope and can all move on without grudges.
Purple Heather.
- Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 00:28:35 (PDT)

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chicoutimi, canada - Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 20:49:34 (PDT)

"Debs" Thank you so much for your kind and wonderful e-mail. You poor thing! You were right, if you already knew "Wise One" was John Armes, then who else knew "Wise One" was John Armes. It did not take a rocket sciencist to figure it out.... "John" you were NOT discreet enough - we both goofed up. ---------------------------------------------- Anyway, People, Debs is right, people are messing around with my mind and playing stupid games and just being pain old mean and I am naive and kind enough to fall for it. As Marie said, I am taking a lot of "poop" and for what? I guess I leave myself "Wide open" to be a target - because I am not sly enough - and live by principles. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I think, People, we neeed to move on to more sensible topics and stop this childish bickering and put downs. No one is perfect, we ALL have "Human Error" within us and we all have "Goofed Up" big time at sometime in our lives. Which one of you on this G/B lives the perfect life? And are the perfect human beings that God desires of us? Not one of us are Saints------------------------------ Just as I owe a pubic apology to "Debs" I think we ALL owe an aoplogy to everyone else on this Guest Boodk..................................We need to get it back to the fun it once was. No one's private lives ought to ever be revealed on this G/B - because we ALL have a story or two to tell that we may be embarrased about. If one wants to put me down for my faults then I sure could name many others for their faults too................................................... It should not take for me to get a beautiful, caring e-mail from a life long friend who is also disgusted with how people are targeting at me, Nor should it take for me to write this posting on this G/B for y'all to just stop with the cruel, unkind slander. I do not reveal people's real name on this G/B Nor do I reveal people's confidential private actions on this G/B - so why is it that you all want to reveal my name and have fun putting me down - we are all 30 something - So why in God's name are we all acting like stupid, small-minded, ignorant people from the back woods? People in USA must love to laugh at this G/B and make fun of it. It has become pathetic. I will admit to my part of "winding" people up to get on my case, but it does not have to go as far as it has..... people, lets think about what reputation we are giving of ourselves - and what it is that we really want to give.... Have a nice day everyone - And "Debs" again, I apologize I made a terrible mistake. Glad we cleared it up and glad we can still be friends.
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 19:32:06 (PDT)

"James the cat" is getting fat because he eats too much Taco Bell, Hot Dogs and Grey Poupon - and not enough organic Hot Dogs, Vegetables, Fruit and Yo-Baby Organic Yogurts. "James the cat" is very furry with a long tail - "James the cat" can be very cute when he wants and funny....So I say, James the cat, needs to find his funny bouncy playful personality - and be the kind cat, That James the cat ought to be.
Meow....
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 18:49:08 (PDT)

OLDER RETIRED GOOD LOOKING WIDOWED MALE LOOKING FOR THE SAME IN A OLDER WOMEN.I AM A NUDIST FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND HAVE GONE TO RESORSTS WITH MY LATE WIFE.I WOULD TO GO AGAIN WITH A WOMEN WHO IS ALSO A NUDIST
AL LOGAN <HOTDOG1930@WEBTV.COM>
SOUTHAMPTON, NEW YORK U.S.A. - Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 16:32:29 (PDT)

"J" "USA" I am NOT answering my own posts!!!!! Someome is messing around with my name on this Guest Book and it is really annoying me!!!! And I am NOT a bit off either - I just get annoyed wiht people who are being pathetic on this Guest Book. For the most part I sign my own name Now people have decided to sign my name for me - For crying out loud! This Guest Book is really getting juvenile - and Why on earth I am ALWAYS the one who is PICKED at??? Marie you have a point and thanks for the support. I hope you are well. My mom says she sees you from time to time.
"J" 2
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 13:00:28 (PDT)

As someone who knows her better than I would have ever cared to do in 3 lifetimes (much less 1), I say it looks as though Markie has multiple personalities and one of them has finally come out to stay. She has started to answer her own posts for heaven's sake. When I was told she was a bit off, I initially dismissed the thought; however, the recent posts to the G/B require me to rethink that issue.
J
USA - Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 12:20:46 (PDT)

Which "Jacjkie" are you referring to. Our G/B "Jacqueline" is not "jacjkie" nor, "Jackie." She works in New York with a Humanitarian Organisation. Why is everyone giving her a hard time? You are all just causing trouble for her and you know, she is a lovely young lady. She is beyond this stuff on this G/B. I don't know why she bothers with any of you or with Seaham. Jacqueline, take my advice, and never come back home and stay away from this G/B the people on here are not worth you getting hurt over. You are above all of this. Now I know what you mean when you told me that you can never "fit" back in Seaham. I am sorry I never quite understood before. I think you are right, Seaham is no longer your home, you were not welcomed when you were home, they all picked at you, and you are not welcomed now. You have grown away from the mentality of some of the small minded people here in Seaham. Not all of us are small minded, just some on this G/B who want to pick at you. Go live your life Jacqueline and don't worry about anyone here.
Marie
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 11:14:50 (PDT)

you mean you did not now that Jacjkie was a teecher there
you no me
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 09:08:06 (PDT)

I hear in New York they have just opened a school for Gays! And so no one feels "left out" anyone who is straight can also attend. The Homosexual community are now pushing their lifestyle on to the rest of society. Obviously if there is a school opening for homosexuals, it is going to attract curiosity in our youths actions. People who are my age and older, you have got to be as shocked as I am!
Shocked and Appauled!
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 07:22:46 (PDT)

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- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 06:57:40 (PDT)

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- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 03:53:23 (PDT)

Who again who has the affairs? Is it you and "A" - The teacher???? I can ask most people in the town and they all say it was you having the affairs - oh my! Your poor wife. As for the "teacher" tut, tut, tut..... And by teh way, I think it is I, who has been the more graceful one.. I don't expose such "Confidential" information on the Guest Book. Nor do I expose people's real names. You may think you are slandering my character - but people on this G/B know me better. I have found someone's husband to be cute - but affairs - NEVER!!! "Don't forget "True Yank" the reasons of our issues - Wasn't it over Principles, Values and Morals??? To this day, You and "A" are beyond me with what you guys did right after ... the huge "hoopla"..... I hope you are very proud of yourselves. Lets agree to disagree - use this G/B if you want, but leave my name alone. Thank you.
I think you know.
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 03:31:45 (PDT)

As everyone seems to be getting poetic lately, I thought I'd add a poem which I read recently which really moved me & It's my memorial to those who lost their lives in the September 11th attack. Sorry I can't post this on the actual anniversary, but I will not be able to make a posting on that day. I read of a man who stood to speak at the funeral of a friend. He referred to the dates which will be on her tombstone, from the beginning...to the end. He noted that first came her date of birth & spoke the following date with tears, but he said what mattered most of all was the Dash between those years (1964 - 2001) For the dash represents all the time that she spent alive on earth....and now only those who loved her knew what that little line is worth. For it matters not, how much we own, the cars...the house.....the cash, what matters is how we live & love & how we spend our dash. So think about this long & hard.....are there things you'd like to change? for you never know how much time is left that can still be rearranged. If we could just slow down enough to consider what's true & what is real, and always try to understand the way other people feel. And be less quick to anger, and show appreciation more & love the people in our lives, like we've never loved before. If we treat each other with respect & more often wear a smile, remembering that this special dash might only last a little while. So, when your eulogy's being read, with your life's actions to rehash, would you be proud of the things they say, about how you spent your dash? (and to everyone alive today)......it's God who gives this precious life & god who takes away, But that dash between he gives to us to do with what we may, we know Gods written the first date down of each & every one, and we know those hands will write again for the last date has to come, We know he'll write the last date down, and soon, we know for some, but upon the dash between the dates I hope he'll write 'well done'.
Butterfly stomach
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 02:36:46 (PDT)

Oh, I also have a theory, James the Cat was Markie trying to cover her tracks after she exposed John Armes as Wise One.
Alfred Ucker <East Coast USA>
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 02:18:53 (PDT)

Been following this story for a while now, it's great fun. Good advice to Markie, BUG OUT! Also isn't it about time Mrs A. got a call explaining what is happening between her husband and an old flame. Better still, call Mr A's family, maybe around the 5th of November then you Seaham folks could have a fantastic fireworks display, but it would stink a little when the "stuff" hits the fan, according to Markie they don't see eye to eye. Keep your heads down folks! WISE ONE wasn't so wise after all, by the way, where is he these days?
Alfred Ucker <East Coast USA>
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 02:13:39 (PDT)

For Marie Jacqueline's friend - - let's hope it's not someone else's husband, she's been known! Let's hope it's a single man who she turns into a husband. As for you Jackie, I thought you were staying off the site, YOU'VE LOWERED YOURSELF TO A LEVEL BELOW THE NORMAL STANDARDS ON THIS BOOK BY WRITING USING FALSE NAMES SUCH AS "YOU KNOW" AND "YOUR FRIEND" Just goes to show, you can take the girl out of Seaham but you can't take the Seaham out of the girl. flying your true (low) colors now Jackie! Do the honourable thing, do what you said you would do, BUG OUT once and for all (of our sakes)
True Yank
- Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 01:38:22 (PDT)

Great good morning
smart <http://www.starsfakes.net/>
USA - Monday, September 08, 2003 at 22:03:44 (PDT)

Have a nice Day http://www.geilestars.net
smart <celebs@gmx.de>
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 22:02:16 (PDT)

To "J" what are you referring to? I did not write the message in regards to "Valentine" signed " Your Friend" ............ That person is obviously British if you take a closer look at the spelling. I spell things the American way - I never spell British, unless I goof up on my American spelling. The person who wrote that message, I know and it was NOT me writing it for you "JR" he was writing it to me.......... I would like to know what you are talking about and be discreet - thank you. You wrote... "What a sweet, sweet message Ms. Markie! I bet it took you a while to find just the right one. LOL. Sad, sad, sad indeed love. J - Monday, September 08, 2003 at 12:36:05 (PDT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ last message to a Friend. A Valentine isn't always A husband or a wife. It doesn't only have to be the one With whom you'll spend your life. A Valentine can be your oldest friend Or a friend that is brand new. And one of my favourite Valentines Just happens to be YOU!!! Your Friend - Monday, September 08, 2003 at 11:54:23 (PDT)
you know!
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 17:59:52 (PDT)

Shirlet Temple.....i'll do something constructive when you stop your whinging & nagging. what you say? sounds fair to me.
from me
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 16:14:29 (PDT)

Jacqueline this is Marie again. I hope all these people on this guest book are not taking the 'mick' out of you. I have said beore, I know Jacqueline, I have done for years and she is the nicest person you could get to know. Why are you giving her a hard time? And Jacqueline why are you taking it? I think it is horrible how you are all behaving on this guest book toward Jacqueline. I know she is not perfect and does not have the perfect life in America, because no one has the perfect life. But she does a lot of good for others. leave her alone and move on to other topics. Jacqueline you are letting people pick at you as you did in school. You are above all of us who grew up together, you have done more than any of us and continued to be strong and just go on with life. You might not be a millionair, but you have taken care of yourself since you moved away years ago. You are now a grown woman and have more class than us who knew you in school. Jacqueline don't let these people on here take the "mick' out of you. You are too nice for your own good. I hope you meet a husband soon.
Marie Jacqueline's friend
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 14:58:29 (PDT)

I think Seaham lad is someone who lives in America. Thanksgiving gives it away.
Seaham resident.
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 14:49:15 (PDT)

"J" find the right what?!!!!
I am busy!
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 14:46:02 (PDT)

"A friend" there are a few "J"'s on here - Perhaps you mean yourself - instead of being a "one" maybe you ought to go and see "one"
"A friend"
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 14:38:03 (PDT)

I see the OUT-PATIENTS are out in force in GB land.
Critics Choice
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 14:26:20 (PDT)

"J" I think you're already in a room with Attendants with white coats on
a Friend
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 12:54:05 (PDT)

Oh stop it you two. You are bloody well bringing me to tears. *sniffle* Get a room already...
J
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 12:45:08 (PDT)

My friend - thank you. Maturity sure does change one... I hope to see you sometime. You are my valentine too... (purple heather))
my friend
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 12:42:04 (PDT)

What a sweet, sweet message Ms. Markie! I bet it took you a while to find just the right one. LOL. Sad, sad, sad indeed love.
J
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 12:36:05 (PDT)

last message to a Friend. A Valentine isn't always A husband or a wife. It doesn't only have to be the one With whom you'll spend your life. A Valentine can be your oldest friend Or a friend that is brand new. And one of my favourite Valentines Just happens to be YOU!!!
Your Friend
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 11:54:23 (PDT)

As the days grow shorter and the trees shed their leaves, We greet frosty mornings and an occasional freeze. Our hearts fill with gratitude as we look back on the year, Knowing that Thanksgiving Day is very, very near. We dream of juicy turkeys with all the trimmings too, We quickly make a list of all we need to do. Anticipating the warmth and love shared with family and friends, Looking forward to the memories when that special day ends. As we reflect on our many blessings, both great and small, We remember you Lord, for you are the greatest blessing of all. Some of our memories of this past year, we'd like to erase, But we thank you Lord, for your sustaining, amazing grace. You've shared your love and comfort in the form of a friend, Through a warm hug, simple smile, or encouraging word they'd send. Or you'd shower us with peace that only you can provide, To simply reassure us that you are at our side. You've given us a rainbow of color in vibrant display, In the leaves of the trees as they gently blow away. We never have to look very far if it's your blessings we seek, Just help us keep our eyes open every day of the week. Our list of blessings will soon greatly overflow, If we simply count our blessings and let our worries go. Thank you Lord, for your love and your unending care, As we strive to be more grateful throughout the coming year.
Seahamlad
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 11:49:25 (PDT)

Mommy, will you tell me, about Jesus, long ago? When He was just a little boy, Please tell me if you know. Did He ever get in trouble, for tracking up the floor? When He washed His neck and ears, did his Mother say, wash more? Did Jesus love to play in water, and run through puddles deep? Did He find frogs and spiders, that He would want to keep? Was He a little boy like me, that trouble seemed to follow? Did He always hate the medicine, That His Mother said to swallow? I would love to know if Jesus, was always good in school? Did His teacher ever scold Him? Did He follow every rule? Mommy, will you tell me about Jesus long ago? I want to be a boy like Him, That's why I want to know.
Seahamlad
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 11:47:11 (PDT)

She will know-------------------S.W It has been sent. Thanks for the friendly reminder.
She will know
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 11:19:32 (PDT)

Are you serious Markie?
Shirley Knot
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 10:10:16 (PDT)

"from me" go and do something constructive you dopey nag.
Shirlet Temple
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 08:11:09 (PDT)

Do not forget to pay your "debts" before you leave young lady.
She will know
USA - Monday, September 08, 2003 at 08:04:16 (PDT)

You will all be pleased to hear that I will not be returning to this G/B again. I am bored with it now. I wish to take this opportunity to thank you all for your past interest. May God be with you all.
Jacqueline
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 05:52:19 (PDT)

"from me" go and do something constructive you dopey nag.
Shirlet Temple
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 05:24:38 (PDT)

Who the heck is"James the cat??!!" I know two "James's and both are American - Both are kind of goofballs!
pure rose
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 04:24:15 (PDT)

dopey I may be, but a mare? neigh, i am not female!
from me
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 03:53:20 (PDT)

"from me" go and do something constructive you dopey mare.
Shirlet Temple
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 03:33:12 (PDT)

Oops, i meant anonymous!
From me
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 03:19:39 (PDT)

Michael Barraclough......it proves that i want to remain ananymous, which is my right. Just because i do not add my real name (& what is to say that Michael Barraclough is Your real name....only you know the answer to that) does not mean that I have no rights to opinions or to defend those you are being nasty to. Using real names does not stop you being a jerk any more than those who use an alias.
from me
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 03:17:34 (PDT)

you wrote, "you already put in your name (or alias)" ...........just like you do eh? My name's Michael, and yours is? That proves something!
Michael Barraclough
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 02:28:42 (PDT)

Michael Barraclough, what is your problem? no need to be so nasty. The site would not 'die' through having to store a password. You cannot get into hundreds of thousands of websites without having a password and they do just fine, what is different about this site that having a password would kill it off? I along with Jacqueline & Essare7 think it would be a good idea. This guestbook is getting a bit boring with all the 'i didn't say that' postings & the 'repetitive' postings, that is what would kill people off the guestbook, not the storing of one single password. when you add a message to the guestbook you already put in your name (or alias) so adding one tiny little password would be no hardship & would stop people using the same screen name through an in valid password.
from me
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 02:19:59 (PDT)

Markie, re your comments, "To "Essare7" I, Jacqueline....... Appreciate very much your intelligent sugestion - I think we ought to ask Ed to set up a private password system for this G/B use" What a stupid idea, as it means only you and two or three other nutters would register and the site would die. Why don't you just email each other direct? Save all the hassle! For example, can you imagine all the people who pop in just to say 'hello' or 'nice site' waiting for approval and the issue of a password, as I said before, the site would die, and you would be the cause!! Take a step back and think about what the heck you are saying, get your head into gear before you strike the keyboard. Oh, and one other thing - GROW UP WOMAN!!!
Michael Barraclough
Murton, - Monday, September 08, 2003 at 02:06:51 (PDT)

James the cat.......you are not all that!
bow wow wow woof
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 01:52:28 (PDT)

Jimmy, you caught any!
Arthur the Dog
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 01:49:19 (PDT)

My names James, James the cat. Ive had fame, money and all that. Now I am here growing fat. Chasing birds and butterflies James the cat!
James the cat
- Monday, September 08, 2003 at 01:42:52 (PDT)

To all who are troubled on this GB: LORD teach me how to still my racing thoughts. Help me to come to you, arguing nothing, pleading nothing, asking nothing. Exept to be still in YOUR presence. Give me the faith that will enable me to lay my burdens at YOUR feet, and to leave them there in exchange for the peace which passes all understanding.
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 23:05:58 (PDT)

Friends Reunited TV programme is totally dicredited here in England. 99% of British TV is total crapp, they are constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel to make cheap and nasty TV progs.
Critics Choice
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 22:23:15 (PDT)

like your cool page !!! best wishes, astrid
telefonsex dominas <telefonsex dominas>
Salzburg, at Austria - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 22:00:03 (PDT)

Seahamlad, how many pints you had too-see your grammer and you get less than a D!
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 21:30:40 (PDT)

To "Essare7" I, Jacqueline....... Appreciate very much your intelligent sugestion - I think we ought to ask Ed to set up a private password system for this G/B use - ASAP! Then you would be right, that no two people could use the same name. That way, people who intentionally want to cause trouble, and who have yet to grow up, who still behave like they were catty kids in high school, instead of 30 something, well rounded, dignified, intelligent people, cannot stir intentional trouble. I don't think the "person" who did what he/she did today, realizes how shallow he/she has made him/herself look. No one on the G/B agrees with what he/she did - because the person is purposely spoiling this G/B for everyone else. It is actually rather nice to be able to see your postings within a few minutes, rather than waiting for Ed to "Censor" them, before he can post them, to be sure people are not being purposely offensive to others, or posting "Confidential" information. However, some people seem to think they can "abuse" the G/B privilages and intentionally try to stir up issues when they know very well indeed some of the 'family" histories of two people. I am very cross about a few of the postings today and I know John is cross too. It was unfair to both of us. Now you know why, that a few of us who moved away from the town over 15 years ago now, have no desire to ever want to return. The people I mingle with over here are well educated people, well rounded, dignified kind, gentle people - and just nice people who do not intentionally hurt others. I no longer understand some of the vindictive narrow minded behavior of a small pertentage of some of the people in Seaham. That kind of behavior is beyond me. Let me tell you, and be honest too... I have ran into my fair share of people here in USA who I have disliked due to their lack of dignity, but what I do is discuss the issues to their face or via e-mail or voice mail. I would not purposely betray confidential information for the world to read.... What that person did today, was disrespectful to John and his family and to myself. It was a malicious "dig-in".... And neither John or myslef are amused. Essare7 you have made an excellent sugestion and I think Ed should seriously think about using a password system ASAP!
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 18:01:30 (PDT)

reading through todays postings, there seems to be someone using regular guest screen names & messing about. Why does this site not have a password for anyone wishing to write in, so that no two people could write with the same screen name & cause trouble. would it be so hard to set up?
Essare7
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 16:23:51 (PDT)

To "Am I right" who on earth are you then? Are you British? Are you male or female? You must know me from school then to know such info... And that was not nice to be so juvenile to betray such confidence - not just about me, but about John. He is a nice man and does not deserve to have his name blrted all over this G/B against his will and without his permission. Just shows that you have lack respect for him also.
Not your friend!
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 15:11:12 (PDT)

Sorry Jaquiline but Im not debs !whoever SHE may be! Try AGAIN
am i right
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 14:35:04 (PDT)

My Friend, parting is such sorrow (nothing sweet about it!) will take your advice, will catch you (usual place)
Your Friend
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 14:25:28 (PDT)

Brian Greenfinger, When you waxed poetically, how many pints had you had? quite a few according to your spelling.
Seahamlad
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 14:17:08 (PDT)

I, Jacqueline did NOT write this.. Whoever it is - just stop!!! You are making yourself look an idiot! I am so upset I am going to have to go and buy new batteries! Jacqueline USA, - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 12:21:38 (PDT)
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 13:11:42 (PDT)

There's a definate autumnal feel to the air and I've just noticed now. My beans are still bursting out all over and I've some strawberries still in the greenhouse. A concer fell on my head as I walked through the park, the trees are gradually changing colour....Red yellow green and gold the leaves come down in hosts. They once were Indian Princes but now they've turned to ghosts.
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 13:01:55 (PDT)

Ohoho great site, i realy love you. Linka
linka karaten <ionalinka.com>
Kerry city, nj usa - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 12:52:32 (PDT)

I am so upset I am going to have to go and buy new batteries!
Jacqueline
USA, - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 12:21:38 (PDT)

"Seahamlad" are those your own poetry and prayers? Or, did you copy them? If they are your own... Wow! How beautiful - and I wish people would live them... Then our world would be a better place. Even if you copied them from somewhere, I am so glad you are posting them - Our G/B needs them to remind people of the Lord and to remind people not to be intentionally hurting others feelings.
sunshine smile
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 10:13:46 (PDT)

Oh and besides which.. don't you think "Wise One" already knows "we" still have a "School girl/boy" flutteries for each other. Come on.. person.. He and I are two years age difference.. which means I am 34 he is 36 going on 37 years old..... He and I have more class and dignity than to intentionally give out confidential info about one another. He and I know more about each other, than anyone else on this G/B from our town - that is. He and I will always be life long friends - We go back a long, long time..... We also took very different paths in our journey of life since finishing school.. And depsite both of our struggles, We have made it through life, because of our love for God and because of our basic values and principles that both of our parents installed in us. I am proud to have him as my friend.... Don't you think we both just have fun on this G/B? Of course we do.... So please don't be narrow minded, person, and spoil this G/B for the rest of us and the world by printing confidential information. If you have something to say, then privately e-mail....
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 09:45:26 (PDT)

I, Jacqueline... Did NOT write these two messages!!! At all!!!! And I am NOT ammused! I think the person who did it, is shallow! And juvenile! And lacks class. That was confidential information! Also, I am sick of this mystery and want you all to know John Armes is "wise one" and I still have a crush on him, there, it's said and done and in the open. Sorry John but I do still care a lot about you. Jacqueline - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:57:51 (PDT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ see me and hear me at this site www.friendsreunited.co.uk/FriendsReunited.asp?wci=MemberNotes&member_key=13266969 Jacquline Markie - Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:54:36 (PDT)
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 09:34:12 (PDT)

"Wise One" change your screen name.... let me know at alater date discreetly, then i will be more careful. Obviously one small person in Seaham chose to give out confidential information - which is proving that when Ed is out of town, people abuse this Guest Book - which proves that Ed still needs to "Censor" what goes on this Guest Book. - That is rather pathetic! If you ask me and many others around the world would agree. That information was intentionally posted on this G/B to cause trouble and animosity - it was not an accident at all - period!!!! What you have done, (the person who betrayed the confidence intentionally) is made yourself look really bad and lack class. No more said - thank you. Poeple, lets not abuse our grreat and fun Guest Book by intentionally giving out confidential information and by being catty and by putting up a posting, and then signing the person's name you are talking about. People, most of us are in our mid to late 30's .. So come on and lets not be showing a shallow mentality of "Small" town behavior. There are a lot of nice people on this G/B and for one person to intentionally give out confidential information was rather shallow.
A strong advocate for this G/B and the proper use for it.
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 09:28:52 (PDT)

"Debs" you were told that information in confidence. "Wise One" is smart enough to know I would not betray his confidence and have more "class." Ed will be removing that imporant info you gave out in refernece in "friends"... Debs count us from now on... no longer friends.. We will agree to ingore on another and AGREE to use this site for other opinions other than giving out important confidential information.
Not a friend!
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 08:42:27 (PDT)

Could be!
Are you right?
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 07:27:34 (PDT)

I have a secret suspicion that this John Armes bloke is also Seaham/harbourlad too. Am I right?
am i right?
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 07:15:59 (PDT)

Also, I am sick of this mystery and want you all to know John Armes is "wise one" and I still have a crush on him, there, it's said and done and in the open. Sorry John but I do still care a lot about you.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:57:51 (PDT)

see me and hear me at this site www.friendsreunited.co.uk/FriendsReunited.asp?wci=MemberNotes&member_key=13266969
Jacquline Markie
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:54:36 (PDT)

"Critics Choice" I am zipping off to Mass now, but we are an ocean apart. That is why I made sugestions to Church Street, because I have no idea what is there now, and what is not. People seem to have complained in the recent past about the lack of quality shopping in Church Street. I remember shopping at this place called Dogherts are something like that... it kind of sold a bit of everything; I remember the toys and games. Then, I remember Clarke's shoe shop. (I still wear Clarkes slip on leather clog things - they are comfy!) I remember too, that shop called Pennywise and Liptons, Woolworths, Boots the Chemist. I remember a whool shop owned by Amanda Phillips Mom, and Elaine's hairdressers owned by Andrea Spurr's mom. I remember Nicholson's the Bakery, Simpsons, Murley's, Chalks the fruiters, Chaytors the Butchers, and Dees Supermarket. I remember the pet shop down at the bottom of church street and I remember the "Co-op" it was down that cut thing, between Tyne Street - My friend, Dawn Williams and her sister Jodie (Joanne Williams) use to live there. I always remember the Post Off ice, you would stand ages in line waiting to be served! There was a bank beside it and a Building Society. Then, over the road was a shoe repair shop.. Debs use to work in there while she was going to college. Oh I remember Maraties the toy shop, you went in and you were never allowed to touch anything! I remember along the Sea Front was that Arcade place.. Andrea Spurr and I use to spend all of our pennies on some of those games. My parents would have a fit with me if they knew I was in there - It was off limits to me, but I would still go! My dad said it was only for "riff-raffs" who have nothing better to do - but I liked going in there. Didn't they have like a Bingo thing there too. Oh.. What memories! Well now I need to skoot to Mass...
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:46:27 (PDT)

picture Him above, With His head in His hands, Tears streaming down His fingers Falling all across this land. Teardrops from heaven, Tapping on you and I, As our Father silently pleads 'Why, my children, why?' Cry no more, Father, Please, cry no more, I'll do all you ask, I'll walk through any door. Forgive me if I've sinned, Forgive me if I've hurt your heart, And bless me with courage needed To always do my part. Open any door, Light any road, And I'll be there, Father, To lighten someone's load. Show me a wounded soul, Give me a tear to wipe, Lead me to an empty hand, Let me hear a cry at night. Fill this heart with love, Teach me a pretty song, And I'll be someone's hope When their hope is gone. Cry no more, Father, Please, cry no more, Just come and take my hand And lead me to a door. Any door at all, Doesn't matter where it leads, I just want you to know In you I do believe. Teach me a pretty song, Let me hear a cry at night, Then you and I will walk Hand in hand, light to light.
Seahamlad
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:17:58 (PDT)

Jacqueline, actually, peaspudding was most of Seaham's staple diet when I was Knee-high to a grasshopper. There was food rationing at that time and if people think they have it tough now-they hav'nt lived. There has just been a Cambridge University survey sugesting that; why a large percentige of the British populatin is in debt at the moment, is because they are GREEDY! I personaly disagree with the Uni conclusion. People had been suppressed for so long by the ruling classes. Well can you blame them for wanting to let their hair down a little. By the way, talking of hair; there is another "THE SALON" comming up on Channel 4 .com Cheers.
Critics Choice
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 06:16:33 (PDT)

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Critics Choice
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 05:51:30 (PDT)

To "Critics Choice" Yes, I think you maybe right, I am not sure Blair and Bush will have a good chance of getting relelected for the next term. I was all for supporting the War, but had no idea it would drag on like this - I feel dreadful for our Soldiers and their families. I feel dreadful anyway, because I really should not support War... But I felt we could not allow Saddam Hussain to continue to be in power. This War is not the end you know, people..... It is only the beginning of some horrible times to come.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 05:41:32 (PDT)

"Brian Greenfingers" I remember those mince pies that you could buy at Murley's Bakery shop. (not the sweet mince, the regular kind.) I use to work in Simpsons Bakery on a Saturday when I was 16 yeras old, while I was going to college - and I can't remember how many of those "Stotties" I sold to people. I think they were something like 36p... I also remember that tea shop called "Valenties" I use to like going there and eating their "Cornbeef Toastie Sandwiches." Oh.. I know what I never eat over here, because I don't think we have it.. It is "Peaspudding" (That is that kind of yellow spread thing, that you put on your ham sandwiches in a bun) I remember too, that at Elementry School, back in 1973 I could purchase a packet of Crisps for only 5p Then i think by the time I finished school in 1985 Crisps were about 15p - Now I have been told they are around 25p or more! I remember Mars Bars were 10p...... Well last night I went to the Irish pub and I had real Heinz Baked Beans! Oh, did I enjoy them!!! I had them with "Bangers and Mash." But today I will go back to my "American" style of eating.... Anyway.. have a super day
Jacqueline
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 05:36:27 (PDT)

"Brian Greenfingers" I too was Confirmed in Durham Cathedral on Monday April 11th 1983. It was such a beautiful experience. I had just turned 14 years old, three weeks prior to my Confirmation and I really took it very seriously. I knew Confirmation was all about truly accepting Jesus into my heart and life. I remember that year there were about 200 of us being Confirmed from all the Churches in the area. It must have been delightful for all the parents and relatives to have watched 200 teenagers processing down the isle of the Cathedral wearing crisp suits for the boys and white dresses for the girls. (I remember how I loved my Confirmation dress!) All teenagers who were accepting Jesus into our their lives and taking for the first time the body and blood of our Lord. I remember I was the first one to be Confirmed by the Bishop of Jarrow that evening.. followed by Andrea Spurr (as she was right next to me.) I do have to honestly say, my Church of England Confirmation was more significant than my Roman Catholic Confirmation April 1994.
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- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 05:25:17 (PDT)

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Oh! for a large stotty and red leicester or pork dripping. Gran used to put the stotties out on the front window-sill to cool after baking....Ah, faces in the fire as I sow and I sit and think on days of innocence, halcyon days indeed. Later I was confirmed in Durham Cathedral. Did you know Oliver Cromwell put 3000 Scottish prisoners there during one of his wars. Speaking of old Oliver, is Brian Oliver still in the land of the living? Or still down in Leicster-engineering?
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, September 07, 2003 at 00:16:52 (PDT)

I Did mention the fact that Uncle Sam would have to make sure a lot of body-bags were sent to Iraq befor the war started. War of any kind is pure folly, the Iraq war proves it. Empires do crumble, the American Empire has began it's decline. Namely on piles of young American dead, Bush and Blair will be deposed on the next ballots I recon.
Critics Choice
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 22:29:38 (PDT)

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Critics Choice
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 14:57:36 (PDT)

"Our Faith Will Not Be Shaken" On September 11, 2001 A tragedy struck our land Maybe it's because our trust in God wavered, And we turned loose of his hand. This evil force that took innocent lives Needs to understand that God is in control, That he will protect his children, And he will continually cleanse their soul. The nation has united together To remember the lives that were taken, But we want you to know the Lord is our King, And our faith will not be shaken. The Bible teaches that the Lord will come back As a thief in the middle of the night, But until then we will not be torn down, But will live a life that is right. Yes this may be a wake up call To the ones that are living in sin, Because when the trumpet sounds and Jesus comes back, It will be too late then. So we all should get ready for that day When worldly things will be no more, Our soul being saved will be all that matters, And we can live on heaven's fair shore.
Harbour/Seahamlad
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 14:40:27 (PDT)

When I was just a teen age lad, Our country was attacked. Japan ambushed our Navy, 'Cause we had turned our back. You thought that by past actions, That we had lost our will to fight. You've mistaken all our kindness And now you'll feel our might. For now, another blow's been struck, By someone yet unknown. They thought that they could bring us down, But now they're all alone. No country dare protect them, There's no place where they can hide. The world must decide today, If they are on our side. For a giant has been wakened, And together we will stand. We will find and turn them out, In any foreign land. You never, ever, pick a fight, That you have no chance to win. What kind of Heaven do you seek, If you get there through a sin? The world as we know it, Will no longer be the same. But you will now be sent to hell, You've got yourself to blame. But, for one thing I am thankful, In the many flags, I see. We have united once again, I'm as proud as I can be. The terrorists has made his move, Our country still stands free. Old Glory waves from many homes, From sea to shining sea. You may have won this battle, But the war has just begun. We won't rest until you're found, We got you on the run. You made your move, you struck your blow, And yet we still stand tall, Free people never start a fight, But they answer every call. These cowards now will never sleep, GOD may forgive their soul. We will place them in the grave, For they have dug the hole. My only wish, I know it's wrong, But before the killers die, I hope the victim's voices rise, And they hear the mournful cries.
Harbourlad
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 14:36:56 (PDT)

The sky is dark the moon is high God keep us safe tonight. Let peace befall us once again, Lead us to the light. Justice must be done We know that this is right But as we go to sleep, God keep us safe tonight. We know Your tears are falling On each and every land, God keep us safe tonight, Hold us by the hand. So many praying hard To hope that peace will reign, God keep us safe tonight, Heal all the world of pain.
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- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 14:33:35 (PDT)

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Berlin, de germany - Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 13:19:00 (PDT)

"Friend of Uncle Sam" Thank you for a lovely posting. I too am very proud to be part of America and was very sad indeed when our country was attacked September 11th 2001. I will be wearing my Red, White and Blue this Thursday, will be attending Mass and will offer all my prayers for the families of those killed as well as for the souls of those killed. Will also pray very hard that our country will not be attacked again. We need to pray so hard for this "Iraq" situation to be cleared up soon - because as far as I am concerned.. We are still at War.. our soldiers are being killed almost every other day - and our poor troops in Afghanistan are just being forgotten about. I think it is dreadful how the Politicians have switched gears and are now only focusing on Iraq - where is that Osma Bin Laden??? That is what September 11th 2001 was all about, not about Iraq.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 10:17:33 (PDT)

To "SeahamLad" I read the beautiful pray of "Our Lord" with tears in my eyes. It is not so easy being a Christian you know; because we all have human imperfection within us - I make so many Human erros all the time and I am one of the one's who attends Mass each day, says Novena's, goes to Confession and tries so hard to follow my faith. yet, I fall into being judgemental, putting my standards onto others and really getting uptight with how society is at the moment. I do rather well at forgiving others, but I do not do so well at forgiving myself if I blunder. I love God and Jesus and adore my Christian faith - but it is not always easy to be the Christian God asks of us. I try so hard to always remember Mother Tersa's words... "Each face you see, is the face of Jesus Christ." meaning, always be kind, loving, gentle and compassionate to others. - Thankyou "SeahamLad" for posting that very important message to all of us. The Lord's Prayer - and I think we all need to say it with sincere meaning in our hearts. I was at mass today, and some of the people just say the prayer and the "Hail Mary" like they were in a race and did not even think of the words they were saying..... "Seahamlad" have a very beautiful day... Your Guest Book friend.... Jacqueline
Jacqueline
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 10:10:38 (PDT)

I love my freedom, I love my home. I love my country which stands so strong. I love the fact that I am free. I love the Lord who watches over me! I ache with pain when things go bad. I ache over the sorrow that we've just had. I ache because some madmen caused so much pain. I ache to think they may try it again! I pray for our president who carries the load. I pray for his strength as he walks down this road. I pray for our nation - united as one. I pray for God's will to be done! I cry for the people who lost so much. I cry for the loved ones that we can no longer touch. I cry for the pain - I cry for the sorrow. I cry out to God - "Make it better tomorrow"! I know this nation is strong and brave. I know that everywhere you see Old Glory wave. I know that somehow we'll make it through. I know Americans stand tall and true! I wish for the peace to come back again. I wish for this time of mourning to end. I wish we could get on with our lives. I wish the terrorists were all locked inside! I hope as an American, you'll all stand true. I hope you revere the Red, White and Blue. I hope we don't have to suffer anymore. I hope we don't have to relive what happened before! I think that no matter what we may do. I think the pride for our nation shines through. I think that soon all will be well. I think that only time will tell! One Nation with such sorrow and pain. One Nation weeping over the slain. One Nation proud of the citizen's aid. One Nation so strong, so proud, so brave! One Nation ready to shout to the world. One Nation with many flags unfurled. One Nation saying, "Just leave me be". One Nation saying, "Don't mess with me"! One Nation determined to get over this time. One Nation with one single recurring rhyme. One Nation loved by you and by me. One Nation - "Our Sweet Land of Liberty"!
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- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 07:58:38 (PDT)

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eyeswideopen
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 07:51:31 (PDT)

Praying The Lord's Prayer "Our Father which art in heaven," Yes? "Don't interrupt me. I'm praying" But you called me "Called you? I didn't call you. I'm praying. "'Our Father which art in heaven," There you did it again "Did what?" Called me. You said, "Our Father which art in heaven." Here I am. What's on your mind? "But I didn't mean anything by it. I was, you know, just saying my prayers for the day. I always say the Lord's Prayer. It makes me feel good, kind of like getting a duty done." All right. Go on. "Hallowed be Thy name." Hold it. What do you mean by that? "By what?" By "Hallowed be Thy name?" "It means. It means .... Good grief, I don't know what it means. How should I know? It's just a part of the prayer. By the way, what does it mean?" It means honored, holy, wonderful. "Hey that makes sense. I never thought about what 'hallowed' meant before." "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." Do you really mean that? " Sure, why not?" What are you doing about it? "Doing? Nothing, I guess. I just think it would be kind of neat if you got control of everything down here like you have up there." Have I got control of you? " Well, I go to church." That isn't what I asked you. What about your temper? You've really got a problem there, you know. And then there's the way you spend your money - all on yourself. And what about the kinds of books you read and what you watch on TV? "Stop picking on me! I'm just as good as the rest of those people at church." Excuse me. I thought you were praying for my will to be done. If that is to happen, it will have to start with the ones who are praying for it. Like you, for example. "Oh, all right. I guess I do have some hang-ups. Now that you mention it, I could probably name some others." So could I. "I haven't thought about it very much until now, but I'd really like to cut out some of those things. I would like to, you know, be really free." Good. Now we're getting somewhere. We'll work together, you and I. Some victories can be truly won. I'm proud of you. "Look, Lord, I need to finish this up here. This is taking a lot longer than it usually does ... Give us this day our daily bread." You could cut out the bread. It would help you lose weight. "Hey, wait a minute! What is this, 'Criticize, ME day?' Here I was doing my religious duty, and all of a sudden you break in and remind me of all my hang-ups." Praying is a dangerous thing. You could wind up changed, you know. --- That's what I'm trying to get across to you. Keep praying. I'm interested in the next part of your prayer. -- (Pause) Well, go on. " I'm scared to." Scared? Of what? "I know what you'll say." Try me and see. "Forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us." What about Ann? "See? I knew it! I knew you would bring her up! Why Lord she's told lies about me, spread stories about my family. She never paid back the money she owes me. I've sworn to get even with her!" But your prayer? What about your prayer? "I didn't mean it." Well, at least you're honest. But it's not much fun carrying that load of bitterness inside you, is it? "No. But, I'll feel better as soon as I get even. Boy, have I got some plans for that neighbor. She'll wish she had never moved into this neighborhood." You won't feel any better. You'll feel worse. Revenge isn't sweet. Think of how unhappy you already are. But, I can change all that. "You can? How?" Forgive Ann. Then I'll forgive you. Then the hate and sin will be Ann's problem and not yours. You will have settled your heart. "Oh, you're right. You always are. And, more than I want to get revenge against Ann, I want to be right with you. But... (Pause) ... (Sigh) ... All right. I forgive her. Help her to find the right road in life, Lord. She's bound to be awfully miserable now that I think about it. Anybody who goes around doing the things she does to others has to be out of it. Someway, somehow, show her the right way. There now! Wonderful! How do you feel? "Hmmm. Well, not bad. Not bad at all. I feel pretty great. You know, I don't think I'll have to go to bed uptight tonight for the first time since I can remember. Maybe I won't be so tired from now on because I'm not getting enough rest." You're not through with your prayers. Go on. "Oh, all right. "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." Good! Good! I'll do that. Just don't put yourself in a place where you can be tempted. "What do you mean by that?" Don't turn the TV on when you know the laundry needs to be done and the house needs to be picked up. Also about the time you spend with your friends, if you can't influence the conversation to positive things, perhaps you should rethink the value of those friendships. Another thing, your neighbors and friends shouldn't be your standard for "keeping up." And please don't use me as an escape hatch. " I don't understand that last part." Sure you do. You've done it a lot of times. You get caught in a bad situation. You get in trouble and then you come running to me: "Lord, help me out of this mess, and I promise you I'll never do it again." You remember some of those bargains you tried to make with me? "Yes, and I'm ashamed, Lord, I really am." Which bargain are you remembering? "Well, there was the night that my husband was gone and the children and I were home alone. The wind was blowing so hard I thought the roof would go any minute and tornado warnings were out. I remember saying, 'Oh God, if you spare us, I'll never skip my devotions again." I protected you, but you didn't keep your promise, did you? "I'm sorry, Lord I really am. Up until now I thought that if I just prayed the Lord's Prayer every day, then I could do what I liked. I didn't expect anything to happen like this." Go ahead and finish your prayer. "For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory forever. Amen" Do you know what would bring me glory? What would really make me happy? "No, but I'd like to know. I want to please you. I can see what a mess I've made of my life. And I can see how great it would be to really be one of your followers." You just answered the question. "I did?" Yes. The thing that would bring me glory is to have people like you truly love me. And I see that happening between us. Now that some of these old sins are exposed and out of the way, there is no telling what we can do together. "Lord, let's see what we can make of me, OK?" Yes, let's see.
Seahamlad
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 07:47:36 (PDT)

What about the allotments I asked about. Apart from supermarket trash, are you all growing enough GREENS? I hardley ate at all some years ago. I used to drink, smoke and go with loose woman, Playboy was my Mag. Now I've graduated to National Geographic, I go to church and certailey NO LOOSE LIVING. By the by, did you know Mary Magdaline was a reformed prostitute?
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- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 06:16:09 (PDT)

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- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 04:01:48 (PDT)

Sugestions for Church Street........ A quaint Tea Shop.. with assorted teas and Scones and following that a Starbucks Coffee shop followed by a few decent places to eat.... and some quaint little country stores. Then, Church Street needs some good clothes stores for children, The Children's Place, The Gap. Also, need a few decent men stores, as well as a few decent Women's stores.. Talbots, Victoria Secrets, Ann Taylor, Liz Clairborne, (and others that I cannot think of.. Some of the traditional British stores that I have forgotten about - whoops!) Church Street also needs a good store that just sells winter/snow stuff. Also a nice religious store.. Church Street needs a good fresh Butchers (I use to shop at Chaytors - it was a good Butchers shop.) It needs a good fresh vegetable and fruit shop (such as Chalks - when it was there) Also a fresh florists. How about organic Whole Foods store? It needs to be there... Ther are lots of things that can be done to improve Church Street.... So come on people of Seaham put in your sugestions and get the Council working on it.... Spruce up our wonderful, historical town with a great shopping area.
sunshine smile
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 03:59:24 (PDT)

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Observer
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 03:56:27 (PDT)

I think people, we need to change the topic now, from me.. to something else. I don't know how I do it, but I never do it intentionally, that I end up dominating this Guest Book.... and really and truly, I don't like it - and never intend to "take over" our super Seaham G/B..... I think because I respond to comments and it goes on from there..................... So.. let us all move on to something else... Hope y'all are having a super day wherever y'all are.... Oh, we still need to keep our brave men and women of the Militarys in our prayers... Iraq is more unstable now, than before the War. What a mess!
sunshine smile
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 03:27:49 (PDT)

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lome, togo togo - Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 03:08:21 (PDT)

Jacqueline, Life is full of risks, you just have to take them. If you don't you are not living you are just existing. Everyone fears rejection, sometimes things do not work out, but not to take a chance on love before it has even began is so sad. It is a risk crossing the road, you may get run down, it is a risk walking alone in the park, you may get attacked, it is a risk travelling on a plane, it may crash, it is a risk eating, you may choke. If you think that a marriage will be doomed before it begins then it surely will be. Take a chance of happiness, it may be the next man you meet will be the love of your life, but if you are not prepared to risk it, you will never know. I hope you do find a good man to marry & have children, but it will never happen if you don't take that risk.
Butterfly stomach
- Saturday, September 06, 2003 at 00:55:29 (PDT)

Jacqueline, Wise One, It's "Sleepless In Seatle," all over again my dears. Did either of you see "86 Charring Cross Road?" Well Ann Bancroft left it too late. When she finally got to London, the man she loved from afar was dead and all she had left was memories. All the world loves a lover, self denial is in only extream cases plausable.
Critics Choice
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 21:30:12 (PDT)

To "Stab in the Dark" Wish you would change your screen name..... It is bloody awful.. It sounds dreary and mean - hope you like yourself better than your chosen screen name. Anyway, ask "Wise One" how his parents would feel. ("Wise One" Answer it with tact..please.) My mother had no comment at our founded "friendship" .. doesn't want to know and not interested... even at the kind and gentle compliments "Wise One" gives to me. "Wise One" and I are just very good friends. I think, if I am not mistaken, "Wise One" and I, both allow our parents, to a certain degree, to have some control over our lives. I should not, as I live over the ocean and don't really tell them much. Also, both "Wise One" and myself are in our mid 30's intelligent adults with a lot of insight and life experience. We would make a lovely couple, but it is not meant to be.
"Wise One's" friend...
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 17:22:37 (PDT)

To "Guest" (Not from OZ) Thank you .. I appreciated your message. I am good at making excuses, that way I do not take a risk of a "failed marriage" - the risk of commitment and the marriage not working out; It would break my heart. I am getting tired of being single, but afraid to take a risk..... so I stay single, and burry my head in my work.
Jacqueline
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 17:14:08 (PDT)

Jacqueline, you can have the same ideals, same principles, etc as someone & be totally different from him, but still fall in love & marry. Take my husband & I, we are like chalk & cheese, but opposites attract & usually have a better 'survival rate' than most 'perfectly suited' couples. We've been married almost twenty years & although sometimes he tests my patience as i do his, we are still totally in love & happy. I don't have a 'peaceful' marriage, that would be dull, but I do have a very happy one. I hope one day that you will meet someone who will be right for you, if you do & you are only a quarter as happy as I am, then you will live happily ever after! Good luck
a guest (not from oz)
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 15:39:14 (PDT)

Why on earth do you think that you cannot marry someone if you had a 'history' with them as kids? Loads of people marry people they knew from childhood. Also what has parents permission to marry have to do with it either? you should live life to what will make you happy, not what will make your parents happy. Ideally parents & their childrens spouses would get on, but that is not always the case.
Stab in the dark
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 15:25:33 (PDT)

To.... "Stab in the Dark" what kind of screen name is that?!!!! Don't you like yourself or something?!!!!. Anyway... "Wise One" and I will never marry, because we have too much of a "history" together from when we were kids. Neither of our parents would ever go for it. Ask him.. he will tell you... Our parents would have the biggest fit you could imagine.. I don't expect we would have a peaceful marriage.... You could hear them yelling all over Seaham. .........(That is why we are "Romeo and Juliet") Also, "Wise One" and I may have a very strong faith and live by the same morals, values and principles, but we are still very different from each other. But Thank you "Stab in the Dark" for wanting to be the first one to dance at my Wedding... If I am ever blest with a husband, I will be the first to annouce it on the Seaham Guest Book.... and will invite you, so you can dance at my wedding.. maybe you could give me a whirl at the Waltz.... Bye and have a nice evening....
"wise one's" friend...
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 15:07:09 (PDT)

Allotments! Are there still any back of Malvern Cresent?
Brian Greenfingers
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 14:45:13 (PDT)

Just a stab in the dark, but who reckons that our Jacqueline reckons that wise one is going to fly over to the USA & sweep her off her feet & that they'll live happily ever after? (I wish! God how i wish!) But I reckon that wise one is stringing our highly strung Jacqueline along. Get over your crush Jacqueline, I doubt very much it will happen. If it does though, i'd be the 1st one to dance at your wedding!
stab in the dark
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 14:17:06 (PDT)

Sad but true, bout a girl I once new, Sadie with the berm
John Spencer
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 13:55:25 (PDT)

Oh yes she has!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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USA - Friday, September 05, 2003 at 13:54:05 (PDT)

Sadie's got a fat arse!
Freedom of Speech
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 13:53:16 (PDT)

Even more tosh, I'm going to be sick!
John Spencer
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 13:33:08 (PDT)

Note only for "Wise One"........... "Wise One" I think you do a good job of "turning the other cheek." But I admire very much your humility of 'imperfection." I will not offer to be a Eurcharist Minister, as I feel I am not holy and worthy enough to be offering the body and blood of our Lord. (Though, now I question some Priests and some Vicars who give out the Holy Communion of our Lord.) Did you know that I had seriously considered going into Mother Teresa's Order? But I cannot, unless I truly accept that marraige (other than to God) is no longer an option. I would still like to be married someday and perhaps have a child. Therefore, I stick to humanitarian outreach work - and truly enjoy what I do. You know my parents - they are rather materialistic and the thoughts of missionary work or joining an order, is just beyond them. I am complete the opposite... I guess you and me, both, try to live up to our parents "high" expectations. regardless of our ages. (I hope I would never be a nagging parent.) "wise One" I am very happy and content over here - this is my home now - I think I am now just a "Guest" to Seaham.... Hope you understand why I have no desire whatsoever to come back home (And it has nothing to do with thinking I am better because I live here in USA - it has everything to do with "family roots" lack of....) "Wise One" the feeling is mutual on the other side.......in reference to "sibling" Also, why else do you think it took them 9 years to visit - it was not lack of funds that is for sure. Anyway, i hope all is well with you - Someday, i am sure we will get to visit you and I, but until then, i enjoy visiting with you and a multitude of others via this SUPER Guest Book! Have a great evening... Friendship Love..........
SJCC friend.....
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 13:20:39 (PDT)

Whoever wrote all that garbage about women in war.It has taken up a great deal of room on the guest book page. Im sure that anyone wishing to read all that crap could have gone to the library and read a book on it.
John Spencer <j.spencer33@ntlworld.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire UK - Friday, September 05, 2003 at 12:00:46 (PDT)

My Friend, sorry cannot make it this evening
Your Friend
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 11:44:33 (PDT)

Jacqueline, thanks for the compliment, but no I am not a Vicar, but you are most astute as I did consider it a career option many years ago, but I would be unsuitable as such as I have never learned one of the most basic principles of the Church and that is to "turn the other cheek"
Wise One
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 11:43:22 (PDT)

"My friend".... Do you want to try to visit tonight at 10.00pm your time?
"Your friend"
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 11:07:57 (PDT)

Great page you buit here ! If u ever need a good Hotel check out my website !! regards, frida
Hotel Pension Appartment <Hotel Pension Appartment>
Vienna, at Austria - Friday, September 05, 2003 at 10:25:04 (PDT)

But Sampson was a Biblicle figure, not another American Hero! My runner beans are having another blooming with more lovely beans to come.
Brian Greenfingers
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 10:20:23 (PDT)

Love the idea of picketing Seaham Docks and would willingly come back from wherever I happen to be to take part. In the meanwhile it might be interesting to know a little more about why access is now denied to townsfolk, what the position of the Dock Co really is and what exactly the Council are doing. Anyone got any ideas? By the way when I brought a yacht to Seaham the Dock Co were very welcoming and didn't charge me for my stay so maybe they aren't all bad. By the way Val Roberts I couldn't reach your address, perhaps you could mail me.
steve smith <stevesails54@hotmail.com>
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 09:52:25 (PDT)

In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher.In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher?In the beginning of the America we know there was a Revolution. And although the call to arms was for men, several women donned the uniform of a Revolutionary soldier and fought against the British. One of these women was: DEBORAH SAMSON** In October of 1778 Deborah Samson of Plympton, Massachusetts disguised herself as a young man and presented herself to the American army as a willing volunter to oppose the common enemy. She enlisted for the whole term of the war as Robert Shirtliffe and served in the company of Captain Nathan Thayer of Medway, Massachusetts. For three years she served in various duties and was wounded twice - the first time by a sword cut on the side of the head and four months later she was shot through the shoulder. Her sexual identity went undetected until she came down with a brain fever, then prevalent among the soldiers. The attending physician, Dr. Binney, of Philadelphia, discovered her charade, but said nothing. Instead he had her taken to his own home where she would receive better care. When her health was restored the doctor met with Robert's commanding officer and subsequently an order was issued for Robert Shirtliffe to carry a letter to General Washington. (This may also be "legend" as there is no record of her ever being in Philadelphia.) When the order came for her to deliver a letter into the hands of the Commander-in-chief, she knew that her deception was over. She presented herself at the headquarters of Washington, trembling with dread and uncertainty. General Washington, to spare her embarrassment, said nothing. Instead he sent her with an aide to have some refreshments, then summoned her back. In silence Washington handed Deborah Samson a discharge from the service, a note with some words of advice, and a sum of money sufficient to bear her expenses home. (This, too, may well be more legend than fact.) After the war Deborah Samson married Benjamin Gannett of Sharon and they had three children. During George Washington's presidency she received a letter inviting Robert Shirtliffe, or rather Mrs. Gannett, to visit Washington. During her stay at the capital a bill was passed granting her a pension, in addition to certain lands, which she was to receive as an acknowledgment for her services to the country in a military capacity as a Revolutionary Soldier, in part thanks to the efforts of Paul Revere. **The correct spelling is Samson - inaccurate historians added the letter "P" in later years. There are also several different versions of the story of Deborah Samson, alias Robert Shirtliffe. This one comes from The Women of the American Revolution by Elizabeth F. Ellet, NY, Baker and Scribner, 1848, that's right, eighteen forty eight. In this book Elizabeth Ellet prefaces the story of Deborah Samson with the following: I have been told that the Female Review about this heroine was not in any measure reliable and that Deborah Samson repeatedly expressed her displeasure at the representation of herself which she did not at all recognize. The following facts respecting her I received from a lady * who knew her personally and has often listened with thrilling interest to the animated description given by herself of her exploits and adventures. * A niece of Captain Tisdale, upon whom Robert attended in the army for some months. This same accounting appears in Daughters of America, by Phebe A. Hanaford, Boston, B.B. Russell, 1882, in which Miss Hanaford refers to Niles, Principles and Acts of the Revolution and to a book called Mrs. Hales Biography of Distinguished Women. The first two books mentioned above are in the personal collection of this writer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regardless of which is the authentic version, the fact is that Deborah Samson served her country, in uniform, in the Revolutionary War. Women have done so many unpublicized things that it is time to shed more light on their accomplishments. Did you know that women were torpedoed off the coast of Africa during WWII? Did you know that when Gen MacArthur returned to the Phillipines, Navy nurses were waiting for him on shore and were cut out of the press photos? Did you know that there were women prisoners of war? These pages will continue to light more candles that reflect the deeds and accomplishments of military women...in hopes that future generations will remember that during every conflict Women Were There !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Women of the Revolution from "Daughters of America",1849 and "Women of the Revolution" 1882: There is the little known story of Rachel and Grace Martin who disguised themselves as men and assailed a British courier and his guards. They took his important dispatches, which they speedily forwarded to General Greene. Then they released the two officers who didn't even know that they were women. Then there is Anna Warner, wife of Captain Elijah Bailey, who earned the title of "The Heroine of Groton" because of her fearless efforts to aid the wounded on the occasion of the terrible massacre at Fort Griswald in Connecticut. Anna Bailey went from house to house collecting material for bandages for the soldiers. Incidentally she denied ever having used the coarse and profane expressions ever attributed to her. Margaret Corbin stepped up to the artillery during the attack on Fort Washington when her husband fell by her side and unhesitatingly took his place and performed his duties. In July of 1779 the Congress awarded her a pension for her heroism - and a suit of clothes. Angelica Vrooman, during the heat of battle, sat calmly in a tent with a bullet mould, some lead and an iron spoon, moulding bullets for the rangers. Mary Hagidorn, upon hearing the order by a Captain Hager, for the women and children to retire to the long cellar, said: "Captain, I shall not go to that cellar should the enemy come. I will take a spear which I can use as well as any man and help defend the fort." The captain seeing her determination answered "then take a spear,Mary, and be ready at the pickets to repel an attack." She cheerfully obeyed and held the spear at the pickets till hurrahs for the American flag burst on her ear and told that all was safe. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nancy Morgan Hart, a dedicated patriot managed to kill British soldiers in her cabin in Georgia. For a great tribute site to her please visit Nancy Hart -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the delights of being on the Web is hearing from young students who are doing research on women in war. This particular paper, done by Suzanne Hollis, when she was a Maryland 5th grader, was so impressive, it should be shared with all who visit these pages. Here is Suzanne's paper on "Mad Anne Bailey". Anne Bailey Mad Anne, who was she? During my research I found there were two Anne Baileys. As there being two of them, I would like to tell you what they have in common. Believe it or not, both Anne's had been called "Mad Anne"! They both were living around the same time too. Also they both had husbands who were soldiers. As you can see, they have many things in common. First I'll tell you about Anne Warner Bailey. This Anne happened to be born in October 1758 in Grotton, Conn. Anne was brought up by her uncle Edward Mills. She was married to Elijah Bailey. The Battle at Grotton Heights was one thing she is famous for. It happened in Fort Grizzwald on Sept. 6,1781. After the fighting, Anne walked three miles to the Fort in search of her uncle. She found him heavily wounded. Her uncle asked to see his wife and child before he died. Anne hurried home. When she got there, she had to catch and saddle the family's horse. Anne got the wife and child. and then returned to her uncle . The wife rode the horse while Anne walked and carried the baby. She received the name "Mother Bailey" because of that trip. After she brought the family to the dying uncle, Anne went around to help all others wounded. There was a flannel shortage at Grotton. Flannel was used to make cartridges for muzzle loader guns. On July 13, 1813, Anne went door to door, collecting flannel for the soldiers. She even gave up her own flannel petticoat. It was this patriotic act that gave her the name "Heroine of Grotton". The "Martial Petticoat" has become celebrated in song and story. Anne died on January 10, 1851. Now let me tell you about Anne Trotter Bailey. She was born in Liverpool, England as Anne Hennis in 1742. She went to live with relatives when her parents passed away in 1761. Her relatives lived in Virginia near Staunton in the Shenandoah Valley, U.S.A. She married Richard Trotter in 1765. She had one son named William. When William was 7 his father passed away. Richard was killed in a battle on October 19, 1774. After he died, Anne left William with a neighbor named Mrs. Moses Mann. Then Anne dressed like a man and joined the army. She went to many militia meetings to tell the men to fight the British or the Indians. Anne had four nicknames. They were: "A Daughter of the Revolution", "The Pioneer Herione of the Great Kanawah shore", "Mad Anne" and "The White Squaw of Kanawah". The most fascinating nickname she had, I think, was "Mad Anne". The Indians named her that because they thought she was possessed by an evil spirit and that she was insane. They thought that because she could ride through Indian territory without harm. One time the Indians were chasing Anne. She knew she couldn't out run them so, she jumped off her horse and hid in a hollow log. Although the Indians looked everywhere, they couldn't find her so they took her horse. Later that night, Anne snuck into their camp and stole her horse back. She rode away and at a safe distance, she screamed and yelled like a wild woman. The ride in 1791 was what Anne is most famous for. A runner was sent from Point Pleasant to Ft. Lee to say Indians were going to attack with a large army force within a few days. The ammunition was low in Ft. Lee at the time. They needed ammunition so they could fight off the Indians. Anne rode a very dangerous trail alone. She rode 100 miles to Lewisburg across wilderness without roads to get the gun powder. She returned with the much needed supply of ammunition. Anne died in November 1825 of old age. A poem was written in 1861 by Charles Robb about this ride. It was called " Anne Bailey's Ride". Before I close this report, I would like to say that I think Anne Trotter Bailey is the real "Mad Anne" because she would swear, get drunk and do crazy things, while Anne Warner Bailey said she never used profane language in her life. Who do you think is the real "Mad Anne"? Congratulations Suzanne for a job well done! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Q. Why nothing on Molly Pitcher? A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley." A. Because we don't really know that there ever was a Molly Pitcher. I'm inclined to agree with historians like Dr. Linda Grant DePauw, President of The Minerva Center, who says in part: "Molly Pitcher is the name of a legendary figure of the American Revolution. She is associated with the Battle of Monmouth and since 1876 has been identified with a woman veteran of the war, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley, who lived in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. As part of the centennary events of that year, an unmarked grave believed to be hers was opened and the remains were reburied with honors under a plaque delaring her to have been the real embodiment of the famous Molly Pitcher. The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley." The central theme of the Molly Pitcher story is of a woman whose husband was wounded or killed while serving at an artillery piece at the Battle of Monmouth. She took his place to the admiration of the other soldiers who admired her courage and devotion to her husband. The story has seemingly endless variations, often including a cameo appearance by George Washington who gives her either a gold coin -- in one version a whole hatful of gold coins -- or a promotion to sergeant or captain. Some books even provide elaborate dialogue said to have passed between the camp woman and the commander in chief. In many of these, she speaks with an Irish brogue, but sometimes she is represented as German. Often students doing school projects on "Molly Pitcher" ask for details about her place of birth or childhood experiences and education. There are no historical sources that can provide such information about a legendary character. The real woman, Mary Ludwig Hays McCauley was awarded a pension by the State of Pennsylvania in1822 "for services rendered" during the war -- this was more than the usual widow's pension which was awarded to soldiers' wives who marched with the army. So one assumes she did something special. But when she died there was no mention of a cannon or the Battle of Monmouth in her obituary. Historical sources do confirm that at least two women fought in the Battle of Monmouth -- one was at an artillery position and the other was in the infantry line. There is no evidence linking either of them to McCauley."
Keith Patterson
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 07:07:55 (PDT)

guy man keeep offffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
guy man <mumu@mumumugu.com>
lome, lome togo - Friday, September 05, 2003 at 05:54:03 (PDT)

I was not blasting off to my fellowmen back home. I think I was shocked at reading such an article, as i think of back home, as being proper, and having respect and dignity for human life. I am aware more than anyone one of you of the issues here in USA with the lack of morals, values, the lack of respect to human life, and the lack of protocol, dignity and principles. Yes, you are right, I have become "Americanised" as our cultures are rather different, however, there is a big part of me which is very British and that I will not change. I believe all of my American friends would confirm that I am still very proper, and live by principles. I am also a strong advocate for Human Rights and Respect to Life. I am very saddened by the fact here in USA children are rarely taught to have respect for human life and respect for their own bodies, as well as repect for women. The Television over here is just frightful at times - they focus too much on sex, homosexuals, money and power. Children are now becoming desensitized to violence, and disrespt. (Though, I think this is everywhere in the Western Culture - not just here in USA) Everywhere we have fallen so far away from God and from the correct dignified morals, principles and values. Children today really do not know the meaning of a sincere marriage between "mom and dad" as their are too many divorces, too many adults having affairs and just not caring about it or the effects it has on children. Too mnay people are now just living together and when they are tired of each other or had enough, or got bored, they move out and another one moves in, regardless of the effects it has on children. We all need to evaluate ourselves and get back to the basic principles of life.
Jacqueline
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 04:34:04 (PDT)

http://www.ecpatusa.org/pdf/cseypnc.pdf Dear Jackie, get off your soap box pet! You want to talk about child prostitution, check out the link and you can read about the 5,000 child prostitutes aged from 12 up working in New York. Clean up your own mess before preaching to us!
John Mitchell <http://www.ecpatusa.org/pdf/cseypnc.pdf>
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 03:24:59 (PDT)

This live today?
Frank Weatherall
- Friday, September 05, 2003 at 03:18:54 (PDT)

Why do'nt you come home Jacqueline? Blasting off safley from American soil at people who are your Kin after all, is undignified and churlish. Come live with your people,if you really care, or do you feel too Americanised?
Critics Choice
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 22:47:03 (PDT)

I have just read in the Sunderland Echo 'online' that girls as young as 12 years old are being forced into prostitution in the Wearside area. I think it is disgraceful beyond all belief! What has gone wrong with society? Do people no longer have respect for life and human dignity?
Jacqueline
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 13:08:42 (PDT)

"wise One' somehow I could indeed see you being a Vicar - and a very good one too. You are conservative, realistic and intuned with society - and not to mention you do the best of your ability to follow your faith. I think Seaham may need a Vicar like you. You may want to think about it - it could be your "calling' and I am being serious. God Bless... Friendship love...
Jacqueline
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 12:43:44 (PDT)

"Wise One" I see you are still full of 'wit' with your comebacks. But how do you know that "Guest" is from Down-under? Do you hold some form of physic powers? So what are you doing on the computer this time of night? Don't you have other things to do? Hey guess what? I found doing some research on churches in Scotland - that there is a Rev with your exact name! I thought to myself, "No! That can't be my friend - unless he has become a Vicar and not told me." I hope you are well. By the way, I think a peaceful picket outside the docks would be a great thing. Bye1 have a nice day! and Smile! :)
Jacqueline
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 12:39:49 (PDT)

Yes Wise One, Pickets are effective. Greenham Common springs to mind-all woman, they stayed at this site for a long time untill the missiles were gone. I know the Docks are a different kettle of fish. The coal owners took them over then simply handed them on. Seaham and the Docks belong to the people of Seaham,the Docs are there for ever-unlike people.
Critics Choice
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 10:37:10 (PDT)

I would love to hear from any people related to the Cooper family who lived in North Battery on the cliffs opposite Lover's Lane (Denehouse Road) up to 1942. Great Guest Book!
Stan Cooper
Sale, Cheshire UK - Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 09:36:30 (PDT)

What a great guest book! I've left it alone for over a year but now it's transformed. Now I get up to date on Seaham without going to church, visiting a shrink or standing next to a soapbox. Thank you all for really making me happy and the guest book beautiful!
Sam
Leeds, UK - Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 09:31:39 (PDT)

Any chance of changing the background on the guest book? Being a similar colour to the print makes it a tad difficult to read. Thanks in advance.
Frank Weatherall
Easington Village, - Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 09:30:10 (PDT)

Critics Choice, admire your stand re. Docks access, but I don't think force is the answer. what these unfeeling People do not like is "adverse publicity" has anyone thought of a peaceful Picket presence at the Dock entrance? I would volunteer to assist in any peaceful action.
Wise One
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 08:18:26 (PDT)

To "A Guest" Cor You must be physic Mate! you're may be right about the assorted books and its a pity you dont have these accessories apart from the big "Dunces Cap" of which you obviously have an abundance! You missed out my proudest possession, namely my "Magpies" shirt, Oh and how is the weather down-under?
Wise One
- Thursday, September 04, 2003 at 08:13:18 (PDT)

Excellent!! I realy appreciate your effort. Keep it up.
Vanny Kant <vannylin.com>
los fedos, ca usa - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 22:15:03 (PDT)

I would like to trace any member of the Dingwell family whose ancestors lived in Henry St during '20's and 30's. Jimmy Gilbert
Jimmy Gilbert <jimmy.gilbert@bigpond.com>
Balga, Western Australia Australia - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 19:10:47 (PDT)

Privet. Alex, please send me email
animated <animated>
- Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 14:57:58 (PDT)

Well, you really impress me. Its comforting and refreshing to know there are still people in this world that give a damn!
Iva Vanmer <iva_vm.co.uk>
london, ln uk - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 12:16:08 (PDT)

Wise one is always quoting this and that. I have a picture in my mind of him sitting at the computer with a pile of dictionaries/quotation books/put downs/encyclopedias etc on either side of him & a great big dunces hat on his great 'bighead'.
a guest
- Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 08:53:44 (PDT)

Yes I think we should drop the subject of "Gays etc" but I would like to point out that the opposite of straight is bent! and the opposite of gay is unhappy, miserable or just plain "cheesed off" The origin of the word with regard to Homosexuals was started in Prisons as "derogatory slang" enough said by me on this subject!
Wise One
- Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 05:32:11 (PDT)

I actually would love to know some vital information about the reality 'goings on" in Seaham. But as I no longer live there, it is hard for me to give out sugestions. I love to read on our guest book what is going on back there. ............. I am actually the one "guilty" who starts the debates on politics, religion and "this and that" only to "Zest" up the G/B when it gets a bit boring - and boy, do I start qutie a stir. But it would not happen if more people would discuss what is actually going on in the town and how it can be improved. For example: Church Street! Anyway, people who are still living in Seaham, get more involved and keep us expats up to date. have a great day everyone!
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 05:31:32 (PDT)

If you really want the Docks to belong to you again, take them by force. It's always been the case that the men who own the money own everything. Take the Docks back if you really want them....Get moving Seaham Folk.
Ctitic's Choice
- Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 05:30:26 (PDT)

Hi Val, you say that S.H.A.R.C. has been meeting for 6 months now, but could you tell me how many people attend the meetings? I fully support what you are trying to achieve, but from a distance there is little I can do to help. One thing I can do is encourage the resident strain of my family to give support. It is easy to criticise, and (without knowing what you are doing) the only thing I find wrong is the word committee. Committee’s tends to talk a lot but do very little, where as an Action Group is intent on making things happen. You may find that a lot more people would be keen to get involved in that way. Just on one point, if a lot of residents from different parts of Seaham are involved, they can attend the local councillors surgeries, and demand positive action from them. I feel sure that some people from Murton etc. would be just as willing to get involved. Please let us know what is happening via the guest book, we may be ex-pats but we are still interest! ed in what is happening in Seaham. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 05:29:20 (PDT)

Well the clean out at the Stadium of Light has been completed. The Lads have given Mick three well deserved wins and everything on the horizon is suddenly rosey. We're now on our way to automatic promotion! Mick's an intelligent, sincere and astute man but unfortunately he is working with others whose past record is quite the opposite. These guys got us into trouble and I am betting they'll keep us there for quite some time. So I might buy a ticket for the Crystal Palace game but I will not renew my season ticket until Murray keeps his word and goes.
Mick's Mentor
Seaham, Engl;and - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 02:09:25 (PDT)

To Val Roberts, Come on Val "the Council SAYS it is in support" You like myself and many other have attended meeting held by the Town Council to try and sort out the Problem at the Docks so they are not just SAYING they are doing what they can. Lets try and stick to the facts.
Sal
Seaham, - Monday, September 01, 2003 at 15:38:18 (PDT)

Just wanted to announce my marriage to Lynne, 23/08/03. Get in touch if yu remember me!
Mick Balmer <newlyn6@aol.com>
Keighley, West Yorkshire UK - Monday, September 01, 2003 at 15:35:36 (PDT)

You know you are living in a crazy world when a lad from Seaham has to visit places like Seahouse and Whitby just to walk round a harbour or piers. Other towns want tourists to come and look around but what do we do? Build fences and hire gaurds to keep people out!??! Whats next machine gun turrets.
It's all Greek to me
Seaham, - Monday, September 01, 2003 at 15:34:09 (PDT)

Thanks Val Roberts, will contact you. Very surprised that you seem to be the only party interested in a vital area of Seahams life. Read a lot of crap on the guest book about politics, religion and gays, all intersting topics; but little of substance about SEAHAM. Are there financial links between the Dock Co and the Council? Has anyone expressed exactly what the H&S problems are? Seems to be quite a bit of complacency back home.
Steve Smith
- Monday, September 01, 2003 at 15:33:11 (PDT)

I'm not gay or owt but can we change the subject?
sherwood forrester
- Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 15:17:41 (PDT)

Hi "wise One" so how your sport watching coming along? Anyway, how are things for you? I hope well. As i was telling "NTJ" that I am doing well. I love being in New York - the city is great! I cannot believe I am near the city, as I am more of a small town, country gal. Though driving is at the moment a huge challenge. I despise all this traffic! There are lots of "goings on" in New York and political too! Anyway, I was thinking of taking Irish step dancing, but have decided that I think ballroom dancing would be more of an asset; so will be starting ballroom dancing soon, as well as my regular work outs with swimming and going on the ski-machines. I have found some excellent places to eat and to shop! I am also just driving distances to Pennsylvania, Boston, and other states which is great! So my summer is over, it was a fun summer, I learned many things about political campaigning and working with some of our homeless. As well as I got to go to West Virginia, p! laces in Maryland and vacation/work in Florida and vacation in Texas. (still did not learn how to properly water ski though, but still had fun!) So.. I hope your summer was as fun as mine. Anyway, look forward to eharing from you soon. "Friendship Love".....
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 15:16:34 (PDT)

To "Not Thomas Johnson" How are you? Good to see you back on the G/B again. I am doing well these days. Love New York! And my work. The city is great! So much "goings on' I was really nervous at first about coming this far north, as I love the south (mainly Texas) and the hot weather. New York has a lot oc cold snowy winters! (Yuk!) But in New York there is a lot of political excitiment, just as in DC this past summer. Anyway, hope you are well. God Bless...
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 15:14:55 (PDT)

Steve Smith ( 29th August 2003 ) There is an action group formed to fight for public access to certain parts of the Dock Area. S.H.A.R.C ( Seaham Harbour Access Rights Committee ) we have been meeting for about six months. We are totally committed to regaining a public right of way onto the North Dock for the people of seaham and regain access for small boat owners. This is the only port in County Durham, we are in the middle of Sunderland and Hartlepool where wonderful development has taken place and what are they doing to a regenerated Seaham Harbour Dock ( Lots of money been given to inmprove the Seaham Harbour Dock Co ) shutting the residents of Seaham out. It seems to me that the local residents are suffering through regeneration - am I the only one who thinks something is wrong. Our local elected representatives SAY they support us but all I can say is action speaks louder than words.
Val Roberts <valerir_2000_uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Seaham Harbour, - Sunday, August 31, 2003 at 15:14:11 (PDT)

Sadie, I suppose it's what one would call poetic licence (I think that's the phrase)of the guestbook administrator, if you say it's ok to use the guestbook for debate, as I can't find any such intention in the 'purpose of the guestbook'.
richard
- Friday, August 29, 2003 at 16:47:53 (PDT)

Sadie, I suppose it's what one would call poetic licence (I think that's the phrase)of the guestbook administrator, if you say it's ok to use the guestbook for debate, as I can't find any such intention in the 'purpose of the guestbook'.
Sara Norton
Seaham, - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 16:47:21 (PDT)

Tony, if you're checkin' the book giz a bell marra! Thomas, how about that pint at the H? Have you been to 'F-San' country lately, I think I'll be back in October. Howdy Vic, and hello to Miss Austen 1999, you know who you are. Why no response?
Not Thomas Johnson
- Friday, August 29, 2003 at 16:41:42 (PDT)

As an ex Seaham Lad I visited Seaham by sea a few years ago and my crew of southerners were very impressed with the harbour and the hospitality. Another feature of the visit was the huge crowd of fishermen on the N Pier; it seemed vastly popular. Is it true what I hear, that the Harbour Company have excluded townfolk from the harbour on the grounds of health and safety? If so its a disgrace. Such issues can be addressed with a bit of funding. Is the council not doing anything to reinstate access? Is there a pressure group I can join? DONT LET THIS HAPPEN!!
steve smith <Yacht Lord Portal>
various - Friday, August 29, 2003 at 16:40:38 (PDT)

Butterfly, you'r an ok person. I'm a gay christian, have lived with my male partner for 33 years. I was born in Seaham. In my travels I have met many gays who also come from Seaham. They still love their place of birth and so do I. I would love to come back with all the other Seaham gays and have a street party in Church Street Precinct.
Beresford
- Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 16:41:09 (PDT)

Butterfly Stomach You are right I guess it boils down to we are afraid of what we don't know or understand.I do not know ayone who is gay .One thing mind you my teachers were not like yours you were lucky.
Miss Manners
- Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 16:38:47 (PDT)

The folks are due back from Europe on Wednesday and we have a house to clean, a computer to put back to” normal”, and washing to do, among other chores. I’ve enjoyed chatting and wish you all good luck for the future. My house-sitting duties are over and so is my sabbatical, so it’s back to work for me.Good bye and may the wind always be at your back.
Not so Posh!!!!
- Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 16:37:39 (PDT)

Dear "Wise One" Thank you so mauch for the invite to a Cricket game. I have to be honest and admit I do not know too much about Cricket, but I am more than sure I would enjoy going to the game as I I love to spectate at sports games. However, "Wise One" sweetie, I think it would be hard for you to take me to a Cricket game or to any event, whether it be to dinner, the museum, a picnic, to the fair, or to a broadway play as I am here in USA and you are back there in England. Would like very much if you came out to visit me. I am sure, we "Romeo and Juliet" could arrange that. We do a good job of our "friendship." Also, thanks "Miss Manners" for agreeing with me. To "Anon" I think we should just agree to disagree. and "Butterfly Stomach" I think you may have made some valid points in your posting. Well... I am off for now... talk to everyone later. Have a super evening. God Bless.. Your Guest Book friend...
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, August 27, 2003 at 16:36:16 (PDT)

To Syeve D and Terry Cowell, This Guest Book is the forum for finding old friends or relations. It is also used for debating topics of interest. Why don't you try posting a message you may be surprised at the result.
Sadie M
Seaham, - Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:51:49 (PDT)

I'd just like to say well done to the site!Well done for providing a service where people can see that old friends that had been presumed to have left the planet;or had adopted a previously unexpected persona;were actually still prevalent,and well.I would ask my friend in particular(who fits this description) to remove me from they're hotmail chum's.I will take this as final proof that all connections between us are to be severed once and for all.Maybe a text will do instead?
JGG
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:45:23 (PDT)

Why should gays not be allowed tutorial roles with our youths? Being gay does not make them any less able to do their jobs than us straight people. When I was at school there were a lot of single teachers, but I never once thought that they were gay. Some of them probably were, but they never spoke of their private life any more than the married teachers did. It is not gays who are the problem with our children, it is the paedophiles & they can be either gay or straight. We have to protect our children from these perverts & that means better vetting to posts, not discriminating against consenting adults sexual preferences. How many of our highly respectable teachers who taught us gave us sound advice when we needed them, who guided us along our paths to adulthood, were into stuff like bondage & masochism or something dreadful like being a closet des o'conner fan? (YIKES!) The answer is we just don't know. My point is we don't know what the teachers got up to w! hen they got home, but at school they were totally professional, teaching us to be true to ourselves & to achieve our potential. I'm thankful to all my teachers, whether they were straight or gay, whether I liked them or not as they all helped shape me into the person I am today.
Butterfly Stomach
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:44:03 (PDT)

When I was a boy all I ever wanted was a new bike. I prayed every night in the hope that my wish would be granted. After a few years I realized God didn’t work his wonders in such a way. So I pinched one from up West Lea and then prayed for forgiveness
Isaac
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:42:25 (PDT)

To Syeve D
Wise One
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:41:48 (PDT)
Jacqueline, are you a Cricket Fan? I would just love to take you to a game!
Wise One
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:40:23 (PDT)
There's no doubt that our Rugby Union Lads are a match for anyone in the World! modesty prevents me from saying "more than a Match!" If only our overpaid, under performing Cricketers were half as good! The latest match against the South Africans beggers belief! They were at one time knocking the S.A. bowlers all over the pitch! and then unbelievably, when offered the light walked off, letting the S.As off the hook, Butcher's reasoning was "if we had refused the light and then lost a wicket, we'd have been ridiculed" well what happened when they came back on to similar lighting conditions? yes they lost two wickets in quick succession and it was a turning point to losing the game. They showed no thought for the 14,000 Customers who paid upwards of £40-00 for the priviledge of watching their inept performance. Of the present team only 2 or 3 would get a place in an Ozzie side and not many more in a N.Z one, so what are we to make of it? Cricket is very much ! run by the "Establishment" a relic of the Old British School which should have been disbanded with the Empire. It seems the Cricketers Down-under play like Men and We play like Boys (no offence to the Boys!) Have any of the Ex-pat readers of this Guestbook got any ideas on how to put the pride back into English Cricket? apart from kicking out the Establishment that is
Wise One
- Monday, August 25, 2003 at 15:39:49 (PDT)
Can anyone help me with the whereabouts of the Seaham Harbour Guestbook. I seem to have found this forum but no real area to post questions about old friends in and around Seaham, and to discuss topics relating to this great old town. Thanks Thanks
Syeve D <namouzizis@agni.gr>
tannock, Corfu Greece - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:46:10 (PDT)
Can anyone help me with the whereabouts of the Seaham Harbour Guestbook. I seem to have found this forum but no real area to post questions about old friends in and around Seaham, and to discuss topics relating to this great old town. Thanks Thanks
Syeve D <namouzizis@agni.gr>
Corfu Greece - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:45:58 (PDT)
I came to the guest book hoping to find clues about my family who used to live here instead i have to trawl through absolute drivel and nonsense instead well i wont bother again
terry cowell <terry@cowell22.worldonline.co.uk>
tannock, staffs united kingdom - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:44:26 (PDT)
How long before Seaham becomes part of Sunderland - Ryhope in expanding south and lets just hope we dont get house built down Byrons walk
Dave Ritchie <dave.ritchie@hardrockers.com>
Seaham, Durham - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:41:18 (PDT)
Why were the Saints, Saints? ............... Because they were cheerful when it was difficult to be cheerful, patient when it was difficult to be patient; and because they pushed on when they wanted to stand still. They kept silent when they wanted to talk and were agreeable when they wanted to be disagreeable. That was all.............. It was quite simple and always will be. From the Order of the Daughters of St. Paul.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:40:08 (PDT)
I am afraid Markie has a point when it comes to our youth.It seems to be a fashion for young women right now to be lesbian.Young women are necking and putting on real shows in nightclubs etc I am sure its really to try and turn on guys but it is happening .I am certain all these girls are not gay .It boils down to men who think it's okay for women to be together but not two guys .I don't think gay's should be in any tutorial role with our youth.We have all heard the horror stories of men who were raped and molested by priests,scout leaders or sport coaches etc these boys grew up to be very confused young men as to what they were gay or straight.One good thing about these men coming out is we as parents will not send our children to them but its a shame I don't think those type of men will openly declare themselves gay.
Miss Manners
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:39:00 (PDT)
I am afraid Markie has a point when it comes to our youth.It seems to be a fashion for young women right now to be lesbian.Young women are necking and putting on real shows in nightclubs etc I am sure its really to try and turn on guys but it is happening .I am certain all these girls are not gay .It boils down to men who think it's okay for women to be together but not two guys .I don't think gay's should be in any tutorial role with our youth.We have all heard the horror stories of men who were raped and molested by priests,scout leaders or sport coaches etc these boys grew up to be very confused young men as to what they were gay or straight.One good thing about these men coming out is we as parents will not send our children to them but its a shame I don't think those type of men will openly declare themselves gay.
Miss Manners
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:38:53 (PDT)
Dear Jacqueline, why can't you ever get your facts right? Homosexuality is not considered a sin in ALL religions. Homosexuals are thought to have a special spiritual status in some Native American religions. Reform Jews and Buddists do not consider homosexuality a sin. Why do you keep on about homosexuality? Is there something you'd like to share with us?
Bunyard's Exhibition
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:36:47 (PDT)
DEAR MISS ALMIGHTY MARKIE i dont think anyone is looking for an argument at all. Its just u r ready to pull gay people down for there actions (as u call it)well u should be pulled down for ur actions. live and let live . as for gays continuing to flaunt their lifestyle upon the rest of society well lets say not all gays do that. Also why should gays go about like hetrosexuals when clearly thats taking their rights as human beings away from them. I dont think u would like ur rights taken from u, now would u.
anon not ANON
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:35:49 (PDT)
JACQELINE - - Why don't you drop this gay issue.As usual you have no idea what you are ranting about just digging the hole deeper and you will fall into it while making a fool of yourself again. Get a life.
Wasaga
- Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 14:34:42 (PDT)
As everyone knows, American Companies are either corrupt or incompitent so the electricity crisis was bound to happen Jacqueline dear.
Critics Choice
- Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 15:27:35 (PDT)
"Wise One" I may try to get to visit with you on Friday - schedule may look good. If not, I will try again next week. Hope you are well. God Bless. :)
Jacqueline
- Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 15:26:29 (PDT)
To "Anon" you are really irritating me, because you missed my point completely. You are being defensive, looking for an arguement and are going to irritate until you get an arguement. My point was not that gays are wrong, my point was the fact that a gay bishop has been elected to to be a leader of the church which goes against ALL religions. It goes against what God teaches in the Bible. And let me tell you for your information, at the University of Michigan, they are now having classes on "Being Gay 101" Now tell me what on earth do the gay community think they are doing? So why don't we hetrosexuals have a class on being hetrosexual? Of course if we try to do that, we will be accused of being judgmental. But it is okay for the gay community to have classes on "Being Gay 101." Don't you be ignorant and say that is NOT going to encourag the curious minds of our young college students who are impressionable - of course it is. I can bet it may stary some kind of "ex! periment" between the students. I think you missed my point competely. I could care whether someone is gay or not, but what I care about is how they continue to flaunt their lifestyle upon the rest of society. If the gays went about as hetrosexual do and just be discreet, then no one would care if they are gay or not. God loves ALL of us, but he dislikes our sin and we ALL have sin upon us. "ANON" I do accept ALL people for who they are, but I do not have to like some of their actions. A leader of a church or of boyscouts, who is openly gay, ought to take a step down from leadership when in a position influencing children and young adults. "ANON" I think you are being way too defensive about this issue... I am not discussing it again with you. Have a nice day.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, August 21, 2003 at 15:25:50 (PDT)
To anon, I would say that God will welcome anyone into the Kingdom of heaven if they are truly repentant of their sins, including repentant Gays, who have truly sinned.
Wise One
- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:07:36 (PDT)
Jacqueline, I do not for one moment think that Al-Qaida were responsible for the power breakdown in the US, the last time they had such a power failure, nine Months later there was a mini-Baby boom! could that be a benificial side effect of the present breakdown? Doesn't God move in mysterious ways?
Wise One
- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:06:56 (PDT)
Mick's Mentor, It amazes me that I can agree with a "Black Cat" but you are right! Reid and Murray are mainly to blame for Sunderland's demise, Reid has paid the price (and been well-paid-off) but the Man at the top is still there. He should have the decency to "fall on his own sword" We Magpies are riding high at the moment, but we have a different and can I say better setup than the BCs. Our Manager is second to none and totally committed to the cause, not committed to the money as some I could mention. It gives me no joy to see Sunderland's position. I fear that there is a lot of "blood-letting" to take place yet at the S. of L.
Wise One
- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:06:17 (PDT)
A woman is looking in the mirror and she says "Oh God I look awful! I am putting on weight, Ive got bags under my eyes and my hair is going grey." Her husband chirps in "At least there is nothing wrong with your eyes dear!"
Kev
seaham, - Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:04:25 (PDT)
Miss Manners It is only when people become critical that changes are more likely to be made. Millions of dollars are poured into Civil Defense programs. Anecdotal tales of what happened could act as future reference. My friend has to use oxygen and has a help line in place, family, friends, neighbors, who know what to do in an emergency .As we live in an area that experiences brownouts/ power failure, in all seasons, we have learned to be prepared. We have flashlights in all rooms, bathrooms, basement, garage, front door, and back door. We have emergency supplies in the closet at the front door, sleeping, bags, water, food, first aid kit,and money for gas, in case we have to leave in a hurry. It is good advice, given to our community, in various ways. Schools switch to gas lighting if the power fails in the gym; other public buildings have the same system.Many have their own generators . It is likely that the Civil Defense, Red Cross, Volunteers, in your area responded to the situation ! quickly and efficiently. The media loves bad new stories, so that's what we hear. As the strain on public utilities increases , and old, outdated equipment isn't replaced more power outages can be expected. Just take a look around your house to see what is plugged into the power system. Every year new gadgets needing power appear in our homes; one example is the computer that is never turned off.We all have to become more responsible for our own well being. It amuses me that you address me in a derogatory fashion, yet consider yourself as Miss Manners.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:03:25 (PDT)
Calm Down Miss Manners. The power is back on. You said that you weren't prepared but will be in future. Why weren’t you prepared? It was the powers that be that minimized the blackout, not me. It’s been a given for years that the system would collapse under its own weight. They are the ones who insisted that the Ice Storm would teach us all a lesson. Some people learned the lesson, some did not. All the stories that you wrote about have happened before. Do you understand what irony means? That was what my post was, irony. I think that other posters read it as such. I apologize if I hurt your feelings.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, August 20, 2003 at 16:01:33 (PDT)
This is what I just read in the newspaper today.... I suspected this... Because it seemed suspicious why the power outages caused the "Domino" affect. I was wondering if the terrorists had got into our computer systems and "hacked" the codes or something... then I read this just this morning...read on......... Al-Qaida has claimed responsibility for the worst blackout in U.S. history which affected 50 million residents across the Northeast and Midwest as well as parts of southern Canada, according to the Arab newspaper Al-Hayat. So.. what do y'all think of that?...Comments anyone?
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:32:21 (PDT)
"Wise One" thank you for your kindness, I too, think you are a wonderful gentleman and you too deserve courtesy. Anyway, hope you are well. I am fine, I just spent 4 days in the South Padre Islands (Gulf of Mexico) It was beautiful - and the Hurrican Erica actually missed us and went on to Mexico. So, I am stil on vacation for a while longer. Anyway, enjy your contributions as always. Hopefully soon we will be able to "visit" and catch up... take care and God Bless.
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:31:33 (PDT)
My friend just e-mailed me this fun e-mail..... A man and his wife were having an argument about who should brew the coffee each morning. The wife said, "You should do it, because you get up first, and then we don't have to wait as long to get our coffee." The husband said, " You are in charge of the cooking around here and you should do it, because that is your job, and I can just wait for my coffee." Wife replies, "No you should do it, and besides it is in the Bible that the man should do the coffee." Husband replies, " I can't believe that, show me." So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and shows him at the top of several pages, that it indeed says "HE" "BREWS" (Hebrews)
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:30:37 (PDT)
To Not So Posh But Oh So Critical,no I Have not forgotten the great ice storm ,but please do not criticize or minimize the power outage.Fifty million people were affected by this and yes it was summer and not winter we can be grateful for that fact but try and tell the senior lady in my home town who was stuck in a elevator in the dark with no water no food and no wc for fifeteen hours.Our water pressure was all most none existent so people in highrises could not get any water at all and besides with no power the water filtration was not working so we could not drink it .Grocery stores had to throw out all meats, dairy products and perishables which the consumer will have to pay for in the long run.Households had to throw the ssme goods.People lost work as most companies cannot run without power and some still are closed .So people living from paycheck to paycheck now are going to be unable to meet the bills and they still have to replace any food that was ruined.O! ur homeless shelters and soup kitchens lost all their perishibles and now cannot feed the homeless or low income till they get more donations.Maybe you would like to tell all the peaple on waiting lists for life saving operations which were cancelled and who now have to go to the bottom of the list that it could be worse and they should not whine.How about people at home on ventalators and electric wheelchairs and even dialysis who could not charge their emergency backup batteries.Some people were without power for forty one hours or more and we still are having rolling blackouts as we are not up to full power yet. Your point about Iraqi people being without power for four months is not valid I am sure you have seen the news reports showing Iraqi people in their homes watching all the news and messages from Sudam on their tv's.The americans wouldn't bomb the power plants as they need them as much as the Iraqi's.The Iraqi people have my sympathy for what they are going thru ! .Also the people in Quebec got my sympathy and my donations at the tim e of their disaster I would never minimize anybody's problems no matter how big or how small.I am very lucky and this will not affect me too much but it could and will cause a lot of problems for a lot af people.
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:29:35 (PDT)
dear miss almighty markie (lol i think that is funny) you say you are a catholic but in my eyes you are not as you go on about this and that been wrong well something wrong in your eyes is not always something wrong in other peoples eyes. you should accept someone for who they are not what they are but you dont. such a shame as you say you have gay friends and i wont like to think i was your friend and gay and see what you are saying about them behind their backs thats not a christian thing now is it. you should leave well alone when you dont know nothing about gay people there are good and bad in all creeds and colours and also gays in all creeds and colours. god accepts gays so do the christian thing and you accept them. that will then tell me if you are a true christian.
anon
- Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 16:26:54 (PDT)
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patricia and Gottfried
germany - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:50:23 (PDT)
To the so-called Tony/Spain, Thank you for your kind remarks, at least we can agree on some things, it seems, I do not think it advisable for anyone to reveal personal details on a guestbook or on the WWW, but if you can make it anytime into the chatroom at about 10-30pm on a Friday, I will reveal myself to you(my name etc I mean) no offence Tony but I really think you should have a more courteous approach to Jacqueline,You don't have to agree with her, just treat her like the Lady that she undoubtably is.
Wise One
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:49:14 (PDT)
Hi, We are looking for the parents of Frances Mary Anderson who married Thomas George Barnden in 1910. We think they where lost at sea but not sure. Looking on the census report we have found John Anderson aged 50 in 1901 living at 132 Henry street durham. Frances moved away from her home to kent before getting married. Sorry if this is a bit vague but we dont know of any other in information to be sure of. Doug
douglas <douglas.mcrae@ntlworld.com>
bracknell, berkshire england - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:48:27 (PDT)
Wise One: The possibility of derby games against Hartlepool may not be far-fetched. But who is responsible - I think Reid and Murray are the main culprits yet Murray is still there still ruining OUR football club. He's selling off players like Craddock and probably Reyna for prices so low we won't be able to buy anyone decent anyway. This policy on top of years of incompetence means we do not have the resources to compete in the First Division and we might just get relegated.
Mick's Mentor
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:46:49 (PDT)
"Tony from Spain" "Wise One" is not afraid to reveal his own name, he uses his "Seaham G/B name" for protection. Only naive people, like you and I and a few others use our real names. "Not Posh" and "Wise One" have explained the reasons why we should not use our real names on the internet. For the most part I do not use my real name, but I thought it would be okay to use it on my home town G/B.......................... Anyway, "Greenfingers" I love leeks and leek soup. I actually make an excellent Potato, Cauliflower and Leek soup; but eating hot hearty soups is not what I need to eat at this time, maybe in a few months when the weather gets a little colder. By the way, hope you are all still enjoying your lovely weather back home.
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:46:07 (PDT)
: "Not Posh" you brought up some very valid and important pointers over the power outage in USA vs the Iraqi people who have had no power for months. I like what you said and agree with you! Also,... "Miss Manners" glad to hear you now have power, (Though we don't always agree with our comments.. I still enjoy reading your contributions - even if I do get cross with you at times. So I am glad your power is back on for to read your contributions.) I hope it does not happen again, at least not in the winter time, you and millions of other would have a disasterous time!....I was no where near the power outage.. as I am still on vacation.
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:44:59 (PDT)
Miss Manners How soon we forget.Don't you remember the Great Ice Storm 1998? Quebec, Ontario. We were all supposed to learn a lesson from that.It appears that we didn't.Hardest hit were the city of Montreal and rural communities on the south shore of the St. Lawrence River. Some of the South Shore communities went without electricity for MORE THAN A MONTH, thanks to the collapse not just of poles, but major hydro steel pylons as well. Much of metropolitan Montreal was also without power for nearly a week. So the latest Power Outage was very mild,it happened in the summer, not in winter.The Ice Storm should have destroyed our illusion of safety, but it didn't . Let's hope the one day power outage has shocked the 'powers that be' into action. It was the usual blame game from our southern neighbors.The nasty Canucks were to blame.Seems they were wrong again
Not Posh
- Monday, August 18, 2003 at 16:44:00 (PDT)
I have just returned from visiting 12 ports around The Med. These included Valletta, Napels, Livorno, Palma and Barcelona five of the largest on my visit. They were not only visited by cruise liners but were very busy industrial ports loading and unloading cargos of all shapes and sizes. Every port visited was protected by break waters and piers through which several ships a day entered and left the port. Just like our very own Seaham Harbour on a larger scale and then I realised it was nothing like what we have here at Seaham Harbour because there were small leisure boats and locals fishing from the break waters and piers. Why should the Owner of Seaham Harbour Dock Company have the right to deny us locals from enjoying what we have had for over a century - dont be fobbed off with "It New European Legislation " The residents of Seaham should back the campaign to regain access to the Harbour for anglers, boat owners, divers and walkers. Let us be like the res! t of Europe.
Val Robert <valerier_2000_uk@yhaoo.co.uk>
Seaham Harbour, Durham - Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:24:27 (PDT)
Micks Mentor, look on the bright side! at least next year Sunderland AFC will be playing "Derby" matches again, thats the good news! the bad news? it'll be against Hartlepools Utd.
Wise One
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:22:10 (PDT)
To Seahamites and Dalton Internet and all you G.B.Roudies: I said a prayer for you today and know God must have heard. I felt the answer in my heart although He spoke not a word. I did't ask for wealth or fame (I knew you would'nt mind) I asked for priceless treasures of a more lasting kind. I prayed that He'd be near you at the start of each new day, to grant you health and blessings fair and friends to share your way. I asked for happiness for you in all things great and small. But that you'd know His loving care I prayed the most of all.
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:21:18 (PDT)
Do's anyone like leek pudding-it's why I grow leeks?
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:20:14 (PDT)
Gene Robinson. My difficulty is not with the new bishop being gay, but rather with those who elected him. It troubles me that if he was born gay, that he married, fathered a child, didn't realize his mistake about his sexuality, fathered another child, had a male lover during his marriage, and then left the marriage to move in with the lover. I would appear that he is bisexual not gay. Surely those electing him to the one of the highest positions in the Church knew that. If they had been honest about his sexuality it would have been seen as a liberal movement for the Church. To me it is a sham, just a way to get noticed, cause disruption among the church members, all for the agenda of who knows whom. The truth is that a gay man wasn’t elected bishop; a bisexual man, given to breaking sacred vows (marriage vow), prone to having affairs within a marriage, became a bishop.
Not Posh
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:19:39 (PDT)
To the so called 'wise one' (why are you so afraid to reveal your name) well said in your contribition reference Niall Quinn I along with lots of other people I'am sure are unaware of his charitable work and donations. I totally agree with you regarding the honours system,and would like to see more people who tirelessly stand on zebra crossings,whatever the weather,to see the children safely across,the so called 'ordinary' people who visit the sick and the needy week in week out, year in year out without any thought for any kind of reward.What a nice surprise it would be for them to receive an invitation to visit the Palace to receive an honour, instead of awarding 'gongs' to people who have made millions singing and acting etc. etc..One of the longest messages I have ever posted,for which I apologise but I feel very strongly about this particular subject.
Tony from Spain
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:18:21 (PDT)
Well a lot of cities and towns in North America have just come thru a major power failure.Our power was off for 18 hours .Nowadays we just don't realize how vulnerable we are .My family has vowed to get a emergency kit together as we were not prepared for anything like this.We did not have batteries on hand for our portable radio so we did not know what was going on.Luckily we had lots of candles and a flashlight and camping lanterns.We had no way to keep our food cold and of course no air conditioning .One nice thing about all this is everyone was sitting on their porches and stoop's and were talking to each other and getting to know each other.Also with no street lights and other lights it was a perfect night to watch the stars and boy the sky was clear and it was such a great sight. Most of the us don't take the time to notice these things when we lock ourselves in our homes with our tv's and air conditioners.After 18 hours it was nice to see the power come on a! gain .Hopefully my family has learned a lesson about preparing for this type of thing as I am sure it will happen again in the near future many times .You could not get gas, get money fom the banks ,cell phones were down and home phones were down in some area's.We were lucky and were able to cook supper and breakfast on our gas barbecue.This power failure shut everything down and I mean everything.I didn't mean to write a markie entry but please everyone make sure you have some basic necessities stored in a place that is easy to get too as it could happen to you and I can only imagine what it would have been like if this was in our North American winter.
Miss Manners
Canada - Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:17:07 (PDT)
Power Outage I really feel sorry for those people suffering from the lack of power,no a/c, lack of water,in the terrible heat.What ? It happened in America ? For a day ? Not them , silly,the people of Iraq who have been with out power for 4 months. I'm sure that the people of Iraq are feeling sorry for what's happened in America. I wonder if the Americans feel sorry for the people of Iraq. Strange world we live in when a day's lack of power gets constant, and I mean constant, tv and radio play, when four months is barely worth a mention.
Not Posh
- Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 16:15:18 (PDT)
How long is the guest book going to continue to allow the political and religious rantings of the few to dominate this guestbook? Let them email each other or use one of the many chat rooms available on the world wide web. The guest book does not have to be a daily source for them. Such entries could be legitimately excluded when you read the purpose for which the guestbook was set up.
fed up but agree witg tonr
Sunderland ex Seaham, - Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:08:58 (PDT)
"Authur Miggings" I love Politics - it is indeed fascintating. Though, I am what you call a somewhat "Liberal" Republican and a "Conservative" Democrat. I think this is why I sometimes contradict myself. Anyway, I hope none of our Geust Book readers are in New York, Toronta, Ottawa, Detroit, Michigan, Ohio parts of Northern New Jersey, and parts of Pennsylvania for yesterdays big power outage - those poor people! What a fiasco. Anyway, if any of our guest book contributors are in those states, or in Canada I hope you are hanging in okay and the power will be back soon. Take care...
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:07:20 (PDT)
Miss Almighty Markie believe me i know u r not perfect.So what if the bishop is a leader how many more leaders has this world had who r gay but they dont preach that being gay is right or wrong. Why cant u look at this bishop as to who he is instead of looking at him for what he is, his sexuality has no bearing on his capability of doing his job.The thing is with all homophobics is they cant and wont accept people for who they r and not for what they r. We would all like to live in a perfect world and have things our own way but unfortunatly we dont. You say u r a catholic well so am i and i was taught that one of the ten commandments was love thy neighbour. So Miss Almighty Markie do just that.
anon
- Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:06:28 (PDT)
It’s a shame that blackouts in America are causing huge disruption to our friends across the pond, but God works in mysterious ways. At least it will keep MISS MARKIE off the guest book for a few days! PRAISE THE LORD!
john the pipers son
- Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:05:26 (PDT)
"Miss Manners" you have made a very good point. I wish so much that the Pope would speak much more against the Priests who have sexually abused children - I do not know why he has not. Though, I don't thinkt he Pope is speaking against gays, I think he is saying it is wrong to have Gay people as leaders of the church; but in saying that, he needs also to look at our Catholic Church too.
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:04:11 (PDT)
To Wise One. I can't explain why I should be TOTALLY in agreement with a Mag but as far as the Honours system is concerned I do agree with you. Niall Quinn fully deserves his award. He is a a generous man and a good role model for a lot of young people and hopefully some of the so-called football stars. I didn't go to Kevin Ball's benefit game or any since because I think the whole set up is a sham. If the club thinks they deserve a bonus on retirement that's up to them. It is our money anyway that they would use and asking for more is rubbing salt into the wound, taking from the poor and giving to the rich, Robin Hood in reverse. But Quinney for manager - I think not. I don't think he would want it and it would be a waste of his undoubted talents as a human being. I think we need to give Mick a chance. He has one thing in his favour (and I have spoken to him) unlike some of our previous managers he is both intelligent and pragmatic. I think he will succeed if he listens to the collective wisdom of the fans before making the big decisions.
Mick's Mentor
Seaham, England - Friday, August 15, 2003 at 14:03:22 (PDT)
Hooray for Tony. Short and to the point as usual. Why write a book when a few words get the message across. If Markie was trapped on desert island she couldn’t find a bottle big enough.
Isaac
- Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:23:12 (PDT)
Not Posh, I was "winding you up" you should had just had a good laugh! anyway thank you most sincerely for the complimentary remarks
Wise One
- Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:21:57 (PDT)
To "Anon" I am glad you are proud of your son and love your son. You have done the right Christian thing and continued to love and accept your son - unconditional love. I am not "Miss Almighty" at all! I am far from being perfect. I disagree with you about the elect Bishop Gene Robinson. I think as he is a leader, he is suppose to be an example and thus far, he is not being a good example to not only the Christian faith, but to all Religions. I think he is going to be a huge influence to our youth and that is not something I am content about. I wish he would do the right thing and realize his attraction and physical contact with his partner is conflicting with his religious morals and principles; and he should take a step down. Anyone who loves God and who knows they are doing something that goes against God's teachings, (like being involved with the same sex,)should take a step down from leadership.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:21:11 (PDT)
I have always believed that the so-called "Honours system" in this Country should be abolished, as usually honours are awarded to the People making the most money anyway, and as Political favors, to grovelling Politicians and the like! but to Mick's Mentor, I would say that I make an exception with regard to a ex Black Cats Striker! Former Sunderland striker Niall Quinn is to receive an honorary MBE. The award is being made by the Queen in recognition of Quinn's "outstanding services to international football and his contributions to UK charities". now Niall puts a lot of Folk to shame by his tireless work for Charity and gave away the proceeds of his benefit match to Hospitals in Sunderland and Dublin, over one million pounds sterling, a magnificent gesture which is to be applauded. If I as a Magpies Fan can congratulate Niall, I'm sure Mick's Mentor will join me! You'll find M's M that you'll get a lot more satisfaction in congratulating Niall than forlornly praying for "devine intervention" to hopeless lost causes. perhaps you should try St Jude? Oh and while I'm on the subject, Why not Niall Quinn for Black Cats Manager?
Wise One
- Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:19:31 (PDT)
jackie your so against gays you dont know wot ur talking about,ok yeah u know gays but you are against them having children..get a life
jon <johnsymes2002@hotmail.com>
seaham, - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:17:05 (PDT)
Not Posh, the answer lies in the soil my boy. I was comming out of the house last winter and the snow was right up to my water barrel. It's the snow that warms the soil so stick your finger in it now. Waching for aphids and weevils ofcourse, you may use permanganate of potash. Try growing parsnips-yes?
Brian Greenfingers
- Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:15:42 (PDT)
I do not know anyone who is gay and to be honest I am not for gay marriage's.I havn't made up my mind about gay men or women of the clergy yet.One thing I don't agree with is the Pope speaking out against these people .This is really something between two consenting adults.The Pope has stood by saying nothing about what many priests have been doing to innocent children for years.I would like the church to deal with all of these men of the cloth and take a stand to rid the church of these monsters instead of covering up for these perpetrator's of innocent children.he should clean his own house before denouncing consenting adults
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, August 14, 2003 at 14:14:23 (PDT)
Dear Miss Markie may I give you the golden rant award for the most long winded nonsensical rambling I have ever come across. You should be in politics.
Arthur Migging
The pontification society, - Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:22:14 (PDT)
To Mike Harrison..Try Service Pals .com that's the last time I saw his name,I was at R.A.F. Acklington with Nigel 61/62 we had some great times to-gether,he originated from Parkside if I remember correctly. Good Luck
Tony from Spain
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:21:04 (PDT)
Kyle H Hope, I detest blood Sports such as you follow, the use of hunting Dogs to pursue, torture and kill animals, be they large or small is a terrible pastime! shame on you and others for these inhuman acts of savagery. Hopefully at least the hunting of Foxes etc in this Country is to be banned.
Wise One
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:20:22 (PDT)
To the so called 'wise one' I think you are the one who must go to bed and wake up thinking about Markie because the pair of you vitually dominate the G.B.why don't you just correspond with each other via e.m.and save us all from your 'unwise'contributions and transatlantic bible thumping dribble.
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:19:39 (PDT)
Help me Brian Greenfingers I planted a fine crop of carrots... but they are turning into store bought... growing in bunches. My folks will be home soon, expecting a vegetable garden, spuds seem O.K. , but the carrots are a disaster. What should I do?
Not Posh
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:18:34 (PDT)
Lol Wise One. I haven't noticed Butterfly agreeing with me, complimenting me on my stance, whatever. However, I have complimented you on your insight and knowledge, also I've complimented Butterfly, Jacqueline, Miss Manners, etc. Why not appreciate people? My mind isn't closed. It can be changed. Knowledge from others, you included, can only enhance my life. If I fail to learn from others, do not accept their view of the world, consider only certain aspects of life, then my whole existence has been a waste. None of us are tied to the dictum of others, we all have choices. I happened to understand the philosophy of Butterfly, but I'm sure that he would agree that we aren't soul mates. We all need others in order to make sense of our world. No one person can rightly claim that their way is the best way. Tom makes a positive claim to his life stance, it is not mine, but who am I to say that it is right or wrong? I don’t dismiss a person’s view of life , I just wonde! r why that is their view. If you want to be a "back slapper"I don't think that anyone would object, why should they? Your opinions are as good as anyone elses,perhaps better, but until you reveal them how would anyone know? Mind reading isn't one of my very few skills, but I'm a ready listener.
Not Posh
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:17:53 (PDT)
"Wise One" Thank you, as always for your kind comments to my postings. I too, often wonder why it is that "Tony from Spain" always has to shout his mouth off at me. Mind you, I wait with a held breath for the "comebacks" I will get for my 3 relatively long opinions and responses I have given. Anyway, hope you are well and are enjoying that "Texas" heat you are getting back home; now you see why I enjoy hot, sunny weather - it puts you in a good, pleasant disposition. Anyway, I am off for a few days, as I am preparing to leave Florida. I have been vacationing with a super family and working at the Homeless Clinic. I now have a deeper understanding for our poor and a much higher appreciation for "Socialized" Health Care we have back home. As much as I am stong supporter for the Republicans, I cannot help but wonder if Richard Gephardt (Democrat) will do well as a President - one of his goals, if he makes President in 2004, is to try to socialize medicare here in USA.! I hope that will be acomplished as Hilary Clinton did try back in 1993 but failed miserably. I was at his fund raising cocktail and dinner last June in Austin,and heard him speak and was able to catch a few minutes personal talk with him. He seems like a genuine man, but again, my philosophy is that all Politicians have an agenda of their own. Anyway, I must be off for now... again, I hold my breath tight for whatever responses I am given. But remember, this is Jacqueline - the tough cookie! who will always have an answer for you - wheather it is a response or an apology...Anyway... God Bless everyone and take care -enjoy the beautiful summer you all have.
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:16:21 (PDT)
MISS ALMIGHTY MARKIE if u dont understand this GAY thing well why not ask ur friend who is gay to explain it to u. how can u have a friend who is gay and u making all these comments as to how it is wrong. also a gay man is only attracted to a man not a women if that was so he would be bi sexual. so with all ur comments on how wrong it is to be gay is not telling everyone u r homophobic. the thing is gays are born gay and cannot help the way they r as u cant help the way u r. i am the mother of a gay man and he is normal to everyone he meets but then again his sexuality has nothing to do with them. i am very proud of my son as he dont preach that his sexuality is right or wrong to him its just normal and to me it is also. the thing is also that u have ur choice in life so leave all others to have theirs. now onto the gay bishop well as i said in last posting he wouldnt stand in the pulpit preaching that been gay is right now would he but i see it u r preaching th! at it is wrong and on this guestbook which has a better congragation than any church call ur self a christian ppfffff
anon <lildamouk@yahoo.co.uk>
- Monday, August 11, 2003 at 16:14:38 (PDT)
To "Debs" I will quote you - "Stop butting in on other people's lives and concentrate on your own life." Lets see - Why is it that we have to concentrate on our own lives? Isn't that a little selfish? Over these past 16 years, the encounters I have had with people, have touched my life in a very beautiful, postive, enlightening and refreshing way; even with those whom the experience may not haev been the best, they too, have always made some positive impact upon my life. I, inturn, have touched literally hundreds of people's lives in positive and beautiful ways: The sick, the dying, the homeless, the elderly, and the young, those who feel life is hopeless and those who embrace every moment of their lives with flair and finess. I have touched the lives of the very rich and the poorest of the poor (Yes, even here in America where it is one of the wealthiest countries in the world.) I do not need to concentrate on my own life, for I leave that up to God and in his ha! nds. I have free-will, like we all do, and make mistakes as wel all do and have in life. I am far from human error - I live my life according to what is right for me. I never go through a day without a smile to another, without thanking God and without ever being appreciative for all that I have. I am my own unique individual, self sufficent and confident young woman who is not afraid to speak up on issues that compromise the values I believe in and try to live by. This may well be the 21st Century, and those who try to live the standards of the "Holy Book" may well be "mocked" but, it also shows courage and integrity for one to stick by his/hers beliefs. .......... I am sorry you thought I was "inhumane" by my response I had made to your message that was signed by you and not your mum. Even though I had apologized for my mitake of misreading your message that was posted right above the misunderstanding I had posted. In all my life, I have never been accused of being "Inhu! mane." An inhumane person is a cold and calous individual - that is so mething I am not. I enjoy all people, and certainly embrace my life and my faith to the best of my ability. If I upset people on this G/B it is never intentional and I always offer an apology. lets face it we all use this G/B for fun and because our lives must not be that busy. Also, not one of us really and truly know any "one" of us on this G/B therefore, including myself, not one of us, have any reason to accuse another of being "inhumane" that is a discredit to the character of the one name calling the other. Have a very beautiful day/evening everyone and God Bless.. your Guest Book friend Jacqueline
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:19:31 (PDT)
Not Posh and Butterfly, you appear to have started a mutual sort of "back-slapping" appreciation Society with the pair of you as founder Members. Can anyone join?
Wise One
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:16:37 (PDT)
Hello! I'm trying to locate NIGEL CORRIGAN who left Seaham around 1970 after his stint in the R.A.F. He went abroad and worked for Bristows Helicopters, I think in New Guinea, but not sure. Anyone any clues? Mick
mike harrison <caroleandmike@shaw.ca>
coquitlam, british columbia canada - Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:15:57 (PDT)
When I was a child,I thought as a child and behaved as one in speach and feelings. Now i'm older, I have finished with childish thoughts and feelings.What we see now is like a dim image in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. What I know now is onley partial; then it will be complete-as complete as God's knowledge of me. Meanwhile, these three remain: faith, hope and love; and the greatest of these is LOVE.
Brian Greenfingers
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:14:06 (PDT)
So Tony from Spain, whats with this obsession you have with Jacqueline? You must go to bed and wake up thinking of our Dear Jacqueline, whom, as you no doubt agree makes many valid, interesting points in her narratives. and also you seem to like and fancy an NTJ? is that an old Girlfriend? anyway do have a nice day down there on the plain in Spain. Its a good place for you to be.
Wise One
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:13:08 (PDT)
To Colin (I'll be off) Hall I wrote a long email to you a few days ago, which appears to have been "lost in space" but to be brief this time, I would say, You have had to eat your words many times on this and other Guestbooks, you may have to again soon. Myself I look forward to the W.C Rugby Finals and may the best team win! I look forward also to congratulating the Victors, will you?
Wise One
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:12:20 (PDT)
"Wise One"..... Thank you for agreeing with me. I am not going to just stop going to church because of this new way of gays being leaders in our churches, going against all Biblical standards. I cannot stand it, it is very annoying how 'they' the gays are on a roll for gay rights - this is only a milestone for what they intend and it is sickening! They are determined to try to influence society to thinking being homosexual is okay - it is not okay at all! Like I have said before, what was morally wrong is now considered right and what was morally right is now considered wrong. Again, because no one is willing to stand up and speak out for the right principles in life (as Debs said, "Concentrate on your own life and stop butting in on others") People are just letting an "anything goes" attitude just because they do not want to speak up for what is right and why? Because they want to follow the crowd and be in denial of our society which is in an extreme moral crisis! . Well.. I for one, am not afraid to speak up on every issue that violates my beliefs. Should everyone just burry their head in the sand? Nope! I am sorry, I do not, not all the time, I don't and I won't.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:11:27 (PDT)
I hope this gets posted! Please!! ........ "Well, tut tut, I guess I am getting a lot of flack. A lot of flack for what? because I stand up, and speak up for what I believe in. I am not afraid to debate, even if it means I am on the losing team. I am a good sport and enjoy a good debate. If more people would take an interest in our world, and speak out, our world would not be in such a big immoral mess! As for Debs, my comment to you was not inhumane - I have never heard of such an "aggressive" repsonse back to my apology for misreading your mom's message. I explained that I had misread the posting, and put it down to the fact it was only 5.30am and I still needed to wake up and that I had not paid attention to detail. My life is very well and I concentrate on it a little too much at times............ Also, Victoria, on September 11th 2001 the day the WTC was attacked, later that same day, in Chicago, Muslim children and adults were cheering in their neighborhoods! , waving their flag and buring our American flag.(yet, they live in our country and are given all the freedom and benefits as we American are given.) The day the shuttle Columbia exploded, this past Feburary, it was in London where the Muslims in the Mosque were cheering and saying it was "our punishment from God" (referring to the Americans)A friend of mine studies in London, who is American and has had some terrible rude and rascist experiences from the Muslims communties in London. I am more than sure not all Muslims are radical and hateful people, but for "us" Americans (Christian Americans) we experience their rascist behavior often. You are not an American, you do not live in America, therefore, you have a very different concept of the Muslim communities. As for "Miss Manners" I am not a fashion fad at all. I follow my own reserved fashions from "Talbots" "Lord and Taylor" and "Ann Taylor." I have never been a follower of fashion, ask anyone who knows me and they will! confirm that. I just think when people go to church they should have more respect and show some reverency to God. It is up to the parents to be teaching children this level of respect. I am now finished with my comments. Thank you all and have a nice day
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:10:07 (PDT)
Hello, came across your website. My Grandfather John ( Jack ) William Hope, Ran Whippets in Dawdon Before WW1. Grandad was born Aug. 06/1893. He had several brothers one of wich was George who was a Club fighter in the North East. When My Grandad came to Canada after the war he Brought with him a pair of Whippets off which he raised a couple of litters of pups. I continue our families love of hunting dogs , as I own and raise Redbone Hounds wich I persue Big Game animals with. I wish You fellow hound enthusiasts the best of luck. Keep up the Great Work, Sincerely
Kyle H Hope
Cranbrook B.C. , Canada - Sunday, August 10, 2003 at 17:08:00 (PDT)
Ti "Iain Davison" if you happen to ever look over this "goofy" guest book, please just roll your eyes at my comments! Anyway, wanted to wish you a very "Happy Birthday" today.(August 9th) Hope you are well. Not sure if you had to go to Iraq, or if you are there or back or what, but hope you are staying safe and happy. Kind Wishes, .... Jacqueline.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:46:08 (PDT)
To 'sick of skipping past Markie' Well said .. Unfortunately there are a lot of us who feel the same as yourself,hence the lack of contributions to the G.B.from the people who used to have a lot of fun and complied with the header of the G.B. Someone suggested that her entries should be restricted, that has being said many times in the past, as has 'just ignore her' and she will go away, no way will she go away,we just have to carry on like most ex. contribitors do and 'skip' past her political and Bible thumping clap trap. Nice to see you are still alive and kicking N.T.J. it would be good to see a few nostalgic comments from T.J.. Have a nice day you all..
Tony From Spain
Espana, - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:45:20 (PDT)
Micks Mentor, Tried without success to get "Devine intervention" to assist the Black Cats in their first game of the Season! Was told Miracles are easy, but the impossible is not, however I was told he could build a 4 Lane motorway to Sydney Australia a canny bit easier.
Wise One
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:43:32 (PDT)
Tom Moreland, I know you and I have had our disagreements in the past, but I have more than a grudging admiration for you and a lot of your views, your letter on the Gay Bishop/and Gays in society is first class! One small criticism, Jacqueline is right in continuing going to Church to worship our Lord! make no mistake about that, but I share your concern at the way our Church is going, I think the answer is not for us to forsake the Church, but for the Gays aand Lesbians etc to leave our holy Church and form their own Gay/Lesbian Church aand not to try to take over ours! We live in a "politically Correct" society where People have the freedom to follow their unnatural, unhealthy and to me disgusting practices. That same freedom works both ways, as I do not have to associate knowingly with any of them. as far as I am aware none of my Family, Friends or associates are gay, What they practice is against God, nature and to me common decency. God in the Bible sta! tes that a Man should not lie with another Man as he does with a Wo
Wise One
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:42:22 (PDT)
I have grown a fine crop of runner beans this year. Who can beat that?
Brian Greenfingers
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:41:01 (PDT)
Butterfly. Very well said.Your insight is appreciated,and I admire your view of the world. A philosophy we can all follow.
Not Posh
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:40:24 (PDT)
"Joanne Curtis" You made a good point. I like it! Perhaps I have come across as too judgemental on what people wear for church, but what I see just blows me away... Anyway, point well taken.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:38:34 (PDT)
Who are all these people speaking up on my behalf? I hope I am not being "mocked" at and made fun of.... Oh well.. if I am, it is nothing unusual. Anyway, thanks Marie, I hope you are well. Our Sharon tells me you are doing well.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:37:57 (PDT)
Jackie found your email to this web site a bt inhumane as it was my mum who sent the message and not me!!!!I know I can ask certain people who you refer to but she wanted to know if any other members of our familly were watching in on this web site. Jackie I've told you before as many others have done so before me STOP BUTTING IN ON OTHER PEOPLES LIVES AND CONCENTRATE ON YOUR OWN!!!!!!!
debs
- Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:37:18 (PDT)
Reading Anon’s comments with regard to ‘If God did not want him there he would have given him another job’, reminded me of an old chestnut of a religious joke. A Rabbi, Priest, and Vicar were talking at a worldwide religion conference. The conversation turned as to how each divided up the offertory money collected from the congregation. The priest said that he drew a circle on the floor then, standing in the middle of the circle, he threw all the collection money into the air. All the money that landed outside the circle belonged to God, and he kept the rest for his personal needs. The Vicar commented that he also stood in the middle of a circle he had drawn on the floor, but the money left inside the circle belonged to God, and the money outside he used for his own personal use. The Rabbi agreed that he followed the same basic rules but when he threw the money in the air, he told God to keep whatever he needed. TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, August 09, 2003 at 16:36:24 (PDT)
To Bob Thompson, I'll pass your name on to Norman Beer. I think at the present time there are 25 names down.
Sadie Mason
Seaham, Durham UK - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:55:57 (PDT)
I've noticed that one or two of the guests here have very narrow interests. All they seem to talk about is religion and "morality" and I find that boring. But on this occasion I would like to suggest something useful they can do instead of just spouting off at us. Tomorrow, Saturday 9th August 2003 is a big day for me and many thousands of other good souls who give of our best to support a small group of people who have not been endowed with either a lot of talent or a lot of luck. Tomorrow they must start living in the abyss which they fell into some three months ago and from which there may be no return. We ask our religious friends on this Guestbook to pray for them for you may have more influence than we have. Pray hard for the Black Cats as they take on Nottingham Forest in the First Division tomorrow. They may not be a deserving cause but they are certainly a needy one. Thank you.
Mick's Mentor
Seaham, England - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:54:06 (PDT)
Dear long term Seaham resident. I hope you're happy and well. It was once well kown that the moon was made of cheese. I really don't believe that most Muslims want shot of most Christians, and I do think it's a nasty thing to write. Over and out.
Victoria McCabe <drvmccabe@aol.com>
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:53:00 (PDT)
TWO MORE FOR THE REUNION DAVY PARKS AND MYSELF WE WERE AT THE LAST ONE AND ENJOYED MEETING OLD FRIENDS
BOB THOMPSON <BOB1559@AOL.COM>
SUNDERLAND, TYNE AND WEAR - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:52:03 (PDT)
"Tom Morland" despite the recent crisis in all church denominations what with gays, Catholic Priests and their sexual misconduct and with 'this and that' I still like going to Church each day if I am able and especially each week. I am comfortable in with Roman Catholic denomination and the C of E denomination and somewhat in the Methodist and Lutheran, I have always attended Church and that is just who I am. I am far from perfect as anyone who knows me can tell you that, but I really enjoy going to church. That is my time with God, Jesus and our Blessed Mother. I have my time with them at home in quiet prayer but I also like going to church, besides receiving Communion is also important to me, because it is right for me. If I stopped going to church because of the catholic Priests or gays, then a piece of my life would be missing. I happen to enjoy going to church and that is that and I am not changing!
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:49:33 (PDT)
To "ANON" I am NOT a Homophobic at all. How can I be if I have a friend who is male and is gay.. I was actually just out to dinner with his parents last evening. I am just straight and very attracted to men, espeically men who are tall and just really cute. Therefore, I just do not understand this "gay" thing. I also think it is so wrong and immoral and that is that! I am not waffling back and forth on this issue. I mean, how in God's name can a man be sexually attracted to another man and the same for women? I think it is just gross! And not the natural normal way - it is just not and that's it! Also, I know that the Bishop, Gene Robinson will not be preaching gays stuff at the pupit, but the message he is sending is that it is okay to be gay. Well, I suppose, but really it is not normal okay to be gay at all. it is just odd and that is that! Well.. I just have very strong views on this gay thing, I have let it be known enough and now no more said. I am not going ! to waffle on this topic. So you, "Anon" whomever! Why don't you just have a "NICE DAY!"
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:47:06 (PDT)
Deborah, I misread your posting - sorry. I see that you are trying to trace anyone who is connected to the Cardy family. Whoops! Sorry, my mistake - will put it down to not paying attention to details - It is 5.30am and I need to go run to be fully awake!
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:45:35 (PDT)
"Debs" I am asumming you are Deborah Macdonald, how are you? Anyway..; why don't you just ask your Graham as he is a "Cardy" Also you can go to google.com and type "cardy of Seaham" or words to that effect and see what comes up. Hope you are well. Talk to you later I am sure.
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:44:57 (PDT)
Jacqueline:- In my opinion, it is a tad unfair to pass comment on the dress sense of other people. I understand that it may seem sometimes that people don't make the effort to dress accordingly and I presume that is what you are meaning. However, many a time, I have gone to church wearing my very own baggy jeans (tut, tut!). I draw the line at the short skirts as I fear I may frighten a few folk! One thing to remember is that the Lord will love you whatever you wear....you came into this world naked and you will leave this world naked. Whatever you choose to wear in the meantime is your own personal choice!
Joanne Curtis <joanne.curtis@talk21.com>
Sunny Seaham, Co Durham - Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:44:15 (PDT)
I must concur with the earlier comment regarding the evangelists - perhaps if Ms Markie and her ilk were ignored, they might go away and leave the guestbook for those of us who want to raise sensible topics, find old friends and retain some contact with the town
Seaham Expatriate
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:42:43 (PDT)
I think gay bishops are great. The more openly gay men, the more women for us real men. FANTASTIC
Freddie Tucker
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:41:52 (PDT)
Catholic? Anglican? Jew? Muslim? Sikh? Hindu? Buddist? Rastafarian? Druid? or other? all the religions of the world (with the exception of satanism, which worships evil), have good teachings. It is the fanatics in each religion which takes the meanings of their holy book & fit the words to whatever suits them that are the problem. Most religions want their followers to be good & to better themselves, so if there could just be a better understanding of each other & realise that whatever religion you belong to, most of us try to achieve the same goal. I see God not as a person, but as a lifeforce, which has given life to every individual on this planet & probably to many other planets in the universe. God is not exclusive to us on Earth, but to the entire universe, which makes our little squabbles about our religions here on earth rather insignificant. Wouldn't earth be a much better place if all the religions joined together to worship the 'Lifeforce' instead! of one (or Many gods)? Life is a wonderful thing, the earth & the universe are spectacular, enjoy it & live to the best of your ability, that's the most anyone can ask.
Butterfly Stomach
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:41:17 (PDT)
Okay, people "Miss Manners" Well, I guess I just have a knack of "putting my foot in my mouth" Yikes! Oh well.... What can I say? Whoops! Sorry! Have a nice day! :)
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 08, 2003 at 14:39:39 (PDT)
I like many other have become bored with the comments on the guest book. But perhaps it is our fault for allowing them to take over. If all of us old guestbookers start submitting again perhaps they will get sick of us too. Sorry about that folks but here's the reason I signed on. Does anyone remember the name of the shop in Church St. which was there before Maxwells. I know the bakers was called Nicolsons but what was next door?
Sal
Seaham, - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:29:40 (PDT)
Victoria, Is Timothy any relation to our very own Joe?Who has rejoined us recently from his jaunt dahhn saaath?? p.s dont trust the christians,way too dodgy!!!!!they rarely turn out to be what you thought they were,details later,maybees!
perre spective
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:25:08 (PDT)
It is said that every misguided person will speak sensibly at sometime in his or her life; it is just a matter of giving them enough time. The words Jacqueline spoke about Gene Robinson could not be truer, has any one heard of ‘Sodom all Tamora’. God let his feelings be known then, and left a pillar of salt to prove his point. It is a pity that Jacqueline partly condones what the American Anglican’s are doing by still going to church like a sheep. All true Christians who believe that these people are an effrontery to Christian beliefs should vote with their feet. Let the leaders of the church see how many of their flock do not believe in their warped sense of decency. Let them fill their churches with their perverted friends, and see how much money they get on their offertory plates. I am a believer in live and let live, but not when they try and force me to join in. Not all people are destined to live again, and these are just some of a variety of weeds in the cor! nfield that will be thrown into the fire of the threshing room floor. It is getting to a point that if you a heterosexual, you are classified as being a weirdo. My apologies if I have upset anyone, but this is my point of view. TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:24:19 (PDT)
Hello Victoria and Jacqueline, I know you both very well from school. I have been a long time reader of this guest book and I think this is a very good place to have debates over religious and political issues, as we can all learn something from each other. I certainly learn a lot from Jacqueline - she is not all that bad you know. I think you have a cheek to say this is not the right place to discuss issues of religion and politics as you have done your share of discussing! And it was unfair of you to say that just because Jacqueline makes a remark (that there is some truth to it) you then say she is rascist, nasty and unchristian. I have known Jacqueline since she was three when she went to live with her parents, Jacqueline is not in the least Unchristian. She speaks her mind and says what she thinks, she makes mistakes,like us all. But she is very kind and thoughtful and always has the interest of others first. I don't know why everyone likes to get at Jacquelin! e. I wish I could be as strong as she has and had the courage and determination she has. I respect her more for her courage to be honest and forthright, than for her not to speak hr mind at all. Victoria your phd does not mean a thing, because you don't use it well, you just like to put people down. I am friends with Jacqueline parents and Jacqueline and I love to read all her comments, they are great she is not a bit scared to speak what she thinks or to take the humility when she is wrong, and that is what this guest book needs more of. Sorry Victoria but some of us need to be on Jackie's side.
Marie
Seaham, - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:22:23 (PDT)
Why do you not open a separate guestbook for markie etc - it is really annoying skipping past those entries to look for genuine ones. This is really putting people off logging on.
Sick of skipping past markie
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:20:37 (PDT)
Jacqueline My reference to bible smart was not a direct reference to you. Sorry if you thought that it was. Can you explain to me why teaching the Bible, knowing the Bible” inside and out” is a good thing? The bible IS made up of stories. Some of them have a good ending; some of them have a bad ending. No matter how many passages from the Bible your Protestant friends can recite they show a real lack of understanding of their Faith. They give quotes when they are unable to give their own answers to a question, concerning their Faith. Quoting the Bible, as some folk do ,is a memory trick. After all we can teach dogs tricks with the promise of a reward. It’s the message that counts, not the medium (the Bible). If they think otherwise all the Bible reading, Bible memorization, has been for naught. Marshall McLuhan said that the medium has become the message. Nowhere is this more evident than in people who quote the Bible, but who are unable to give, or understand the message. Thumping ones self over the head, thumping others over the head with the Bible, has never, and will never, transfer the message. It always amazes me when those who believe in Jesus say, “He was a good man”. “He led a good life”. They simply haven’t got the message. The Catholic Church hasn’t done a poor job of teaching the Bible. Neither has the Church of England. Teaching the Bible was never the intent of either Church. Teaching the Faith, was, and is, the intent of both Churches. They have both done an excellent job, their members have no need to use the Bible as a crutch. They understand their Faith, and quietly live it.
Not Posh
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:19:55 (PDT)
Victoria, Jacqueline's comment was not nasty, racist or unchristian - it was her opinion and it was a fact. So does that mean everytime someone makes an opinion and states a fact, they are being nasty, racist and unchristian? It is well known the goal of most Muslims is to "rid the Christians" They see the Christians as the infidels - and that is not a racist, or nast or Unchristian comment. Your comment to Jacqueline was unfair and nasty. You have to realise, as it seems by your previous opinions on this G/B that you are much more liberal than Jacqueline is, she is conservative - though I have seen some decent liberal views that she can see (good for you Jacqueline) You and she do not see "eye-to-eye" on a lot of things; but she does not accuse you of being racist, nasty or unchristian - does she? Now who is the better Christian, Victoria.
a long time Seaham Resident
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:18:12 (PDT)
Markie in one breath you complain that no one goes to church anymore and in the next you complain about the one's who do.Times change people don't feel they are on a date with god (I don't believe that one)they are there to worship I happen to think that if these young people are in church thats are a miracle.Not everyone has the money to be a fashion maven like you my dear .I think again you have put your foot in your mouth.Why don't you just for once show that christian side of you that you are always bragging about but can never make us believe.
Miss Manners
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:16:49 (PDT)
Howdy Vic - long time no speak.
NTJ
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:15:55 (PDT)
"victoria" I do not see it as racist, nasty and unChristian - It is a well known fact - Muslims do see Christians as the infidels - as least here in USA.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:15:27 (PDT)
Trying to trace anyone who is connected with the Cardy family from Seaham. Would love anyone who knew any Cardy to get in touch.Debs
debbie
seaham, - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:14:53 (PDT)
dear miss markie i have just read ur posting about gay bishops well all i can say is u r a homophobic do u really think that a gay bishop will stand in the pulpit and preach to everyone that being gay is right NO I DONT THINK SO whether it is right or not he will be up there in the pulpit preaching the word of god and if god didnt want him there then i am sure he would have given him another job there r so many ppl just like u who dont live life as it comes but do so through the holy book but dont forget that was written so many hundreds of years ago and we now live in the 21st century oh and miss markie HAVE A GOOD DAY
anon <lildamouk@ahoo.co.uk>
Seaham, - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 17:14:04 (PDT)
I hadn't looked at the guestbook for a while, as it seems fewer and fewer people are contributing, hopefully people are out enjoying the sun. I don't think that this guestbook is the right place to discuss politics and religion at length. Many former guestbook contibutors complain about this. However, now to contradict myself completely and respond to Jacqueline's comment that Muslims see us as infidels. That comment is rascist, nasty and unChristian. A minority of Muslims have issues with the West, but most of the Muslims I know would rightly be offended by the ignorance you show about their faith, and the fact that you're labelling them as all the same. Timothy McVeigh was a right wing Christian fundamentalist, and a terrorist. Should I be wary of all Christians now?
Victoria McCabe <drvmccabe@aol.com>
- Wednesday, August 06, 2003 at 16:21:43 (PDT)
This evening, the American Episcopal Church (Anglican) have voted 'yes' to Gene Robinson being Ordained as the first openly gay Bishop in the Episcopal Church. I am sure they voted "yes" because of the many gays who are already in the church and of the many gays who are within the Catholic Church. They no longer want it to be a secret, so it is now all in the open. Those of you on this G/B who are practicing Anglican what do you think of this? This openly gay Bishop can now preach against the Biblical standards of a sacred "love" meant only between a "man and a woman." Do you know what I think? I think this is showing that Christianity is falling through the pipes! Satan is laughing all the way... It is another huge sign of the times... I am tired of the Catholics and all their protecting of Priests of their sexual misconduct; and I am now tired of the Church of England Church and the American Episcopal church - and the Methodists here in USA accept gay marriages, ! the Lutherans, I think are doing the same thing... No wonder the Baptists here in USA think all Catholics (and now all C of E and Episcopals) are going to hell. No wonder the extreme Muslims think we (christians) are the infidels - look at what we are doing? We do not teach our children to respect the Bible or even Church. I get tired of seeing the teenagers ( girls and boys) going to church in baggy trousers hanging down their bottoms, and the girls are wearing short dresses and tight jeans or shorts, and their hair is still wet from being in the shower. I get tired of seeing parents in church wearing any old pair of jeans and sweatshirt. People, who you go out on a date, we dress nicely, or when we go to the theater, or to a concert, we always dress nice. So why not when we go to church? - after all, it is a "date" with God. Well, despite the issues in the Catholic Church, and now the issues in the Episcopal Church, I will still attend both denominations. I am a practicin! g Roman Catholic by blood heritage and always a C of E by which I was raised.
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, August 06, 2003 at 16:20:20 (PDT)
"Not Posh" I never said I was Bible smart. I was baptized into the Irish Roman Catholic faith, raised from the age of 3 years old in a high Anglican church. Then, into my adult years I reaffirmed myself back into the Roman Catholic denomination. I will tell you, the C of E and the R.C have done a very poor job of teaching the Bible. My protestant friends, here in USA know their Bible inside and out. I do not, and that is something I am not proud of - I feel very guilty. Though, I am knowledgable on many of the stories in the Bible, but I am not "Bible smart." My apologies, if you thought I gave that impression.
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, August 06, 2003 at 16:18:21 (PDT)
Thank you Sadie. I 've actually been in touch with George Monarch; I looked him up on the UK white pages, and have just got off the phone after 45 minutes!He told me that the school photo was in the Echo recently, with myself and your brother sitting in the front! He hasn't got into computers unfortunately, so I can't attract him to this page.
Colin Hall
Wellington, - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:10:32 (PDT)
Butterfly. You certainly hit the nail on the head. Much of the Old Testament, and some of the New, is written in parables, just to make a point, and not to be taken literally. Anyone can take anything out of context in the Old Testament, and make it fit their own viewpoint. The people who wrote the bible had a limited vocabulary, about 1,500 words, yet the book uses vocabulary with perhaps, 15,000 words. Some where along the way words were added which, were not part of the original text. I wonder who did that? In the original Hebrew a “rod” was “a method of guidance”. Suddenly it became a stick to beat a person with…”Spare the rod, spoil the child”, many a child has suffered because of that phrase, wrongly attributed, by the zealous, to the bible. The original writers were unable to record what it was that they saw, heard, or experienced, simply because they didn’t have the words. From your posts it is obvious that you have discovered the secret of the “book”.
Not Posh
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:08:53 (PDT)
Jacqueline. "Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds." Acts vii. 22. In other words he knew the history of the Egyptians and used it to his advantage.Easily applied to Iraq. A person’s life experiences certainly make them wiser than a person who has little knowledge of the way others live. You make a good point about not experiencing life outside of the “books” which ties in with what Butterfly Stomach says. His/her reference is to the Bible, which is often described as the “Book”. Not wanting to put words into the posters’ mouth, but I read the post as meaning that wisdom attained from the Book is a double edged sword and common sense must be applied. Exodus 35:2 clearly states that a person working on the Sabbath should be put to death, if Butterfly does what the Book tells him would he be guilty of breaking the Commandment” Thou shalt not kill”? Could he use Exodus as his defense or would he be laughed out of court? Who decides which quote from the bible is the most worthy? There is a secret to be learned from the Book, only when you know the secret can you be truly free and wise. Those who constantly quote the Book haven’t learned the secret. “Wisdom has very little to do with "book smart"…(your words) Religion has little to do with being bible smart… (My words)
Not Posh
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:07:36 (PDT)
'Jacqueline' just two things i would like to take up with you. firstly, just because you haven't seen someone in years & years does not mean to say you will have nothing in common. I meet total strangers & see through talking to them that we have many things in common. Also I agree with you that wisdom comes through life experience & not through book learning, but someone could go through a lifetime of life experiences & still not achieve wisdom. I don't know you, I can only go by what you say on the guestbook, but to be honest I can't see that you've received any more wisdom than the rest of us book readers!
Butterfly Stomach
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:05:42 (PDT)
Defender of the faith? pick your faith! the Pope is the defender of the Catholic church, not the anglican church! I said what I said because one church is not superior to any other church! There are Great & evil 'holymen' in every religion, that is the point i was making, but you seem to think i am anti catholic! That's why I don't go to any church. That is not to say I am not religious as I am, but I believe you don't have to go to church to be religious. I apologise to anyone who thinks I am being vicious, I'm just trying to get my points accross..whether they are blinkered or not, they are my opinions, so are just as valid as anyone elses. Just as yours is blinkered on the matter of gays! I agree I hardly make any comments on the guest book, I'm still pretty new to it, but as I said before if I think people are belittling people then I will respond. When Jacqueline said I'm not against gays but.... or it's just not right it's against nature.... that is say! ing she is better than them, which she is not. Actually homosexuality is not a human phenomenon, it happens in all animal life, so to say it's against nature is not strictly true, it is a small preportion of that nature who has same sex tendancies. Oh by the way just in case you are all wondering, I am 100 per cent straight, but I judge people on their goodness, not on their sexuality.
Butterfly Stomach
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:04:41 (PDT)
Ah! The pedantic and incongruously named Wise one [sic],I had forgotten your presumed ownership of this guestbook! England had played ten consecutive games prior to meeting the All Blacks in Wellington. They, the AB's had not played together in a test. Despite that, they scored a try against England, and almost another. The much-vaunted English pack did not dominate, nor did they have the same possession, and not only scored no try's but never got close! England in fact were lucky to score at all against a green team. The All Blacks have since beaten Wales, and France, and both South Africa and Australia by 50 points. After the World Cup final, when England are pensioning off their geriatrics, and ruing their reliance on little Jonny, they will realise what good rugby is all about!They will not win with their pedestrian game of not scoring trys and killing the ball at every opportunity. Just remember where you heard that first.Are you sure you and Ms Markie aren'! t related? Right, now to matters for which I think this site should excel, anyone know where Geordie Monarch lives?
Colin Hall
Wellington, - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:02:58 (PDT)
"Wise One" way to go! You sure did put "Butterfly Stomach" in his/her place. Though, he/she did make some valid points in reference to the Bible and the Commandments. How many people do stick to the Ten Commandments? We have all taken the Lord's name in vain. We have all cheated by looking at the opposite sex with some form of lust. How many of us have actually Honored our mothers and fathers? How many of us have never lied once in our lives? How many of us agree with the War in Iraq, which is the same thing as agreeing with "killing." How many of us have not said anything hurtful against our neighbors? How many of us have never once been jealous of our neighbor? How many of us actually do take the Sabbath, (Sunday) seriously? And how many parents actually teach their children about staying a virgin until the Sacrament of marriage has taken place? How many of us are willing to forgive and to make Peace after such an arguement? How many of us are willing to admit ou! r own mistakes and faults? "Wise One" I think "Butterfly Stomach" made some very valid points. I think because Christians in general do not follow the laws of the Bible as strictly as the Orthodox Jews, or as some of the Muslims, Hindus, it is why, in particularly do the Muslims see us, as the "infidels" - the evil society. Neither in Britain or the USA in general are Christ Centered countries. I do try very hard to take the Commandments very seriously, I do not always succeed, but with a few I am very serious, and yet, I get teased for it and have been told a few times that a man will never want to marry me unless I "sleep around" That to me is utterly ignorant; so I stay single until I meet the right man. I stick to the principles of the Bible, or at least I try, and again, I sometimes suffer because I open my mouth and speak up for morals. "Butterfly Stomach" perhaps it is that we fail to live the exact standards of the Bible, because it is that we are human and were bor! n with original sin. I do believe being Gay is an equal sin to purpose ly breaking one of the ten commandments. One last note, I think you are being too critical of "Wise One" and myself. Neither one of us direct mean comments to a particular person. What we do, do is state our opinions and beliefs. We do not expect for you to agree with us, but neither do we expect for you to purposely be critical of our opinions and beliefs and to try to belittle either one of us. Why don't you agree to disagree with us. Just as I do not always agree with "Not Posh" nor, she with me, but I do not purposely direct mean comments her way. Try to be a little more gentle and kinder in your comments to "Wise One" and to others on this G/B
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 16:00:27 (PDT)
Has anyone one seen the film GROUNDHOG DAY in which a man relives the same day over and over again? This guest book is like that film. It does not matter how long you leave it, when you come back you know for a fact that Miss Markie and Wise one will still be spouting the same old rubbish over and over and over and over and over...............
Mr Zzzzz
Seaham, - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 15:57:30 (PDT)
To Colin Hall I've asked Norman about the other photograph. He say he does have one but can't find it. However he's going to have another look for it. Sadie M
Sadie Mason
Seaham, - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 17:03:17 (PDT)
My Dad came from Seaham,I remember the long train rides to visit the many relations when I was little girl..the streets had big loose stones in the road. My father was called Bill Swan,,his father (also called Bill) worked at the bottle factory and down the pits. I am searching for connections with any Swans or Lincolns in Seaham
Claire Taylor <graeme.taylor7@ntlworld.com>
Holton le Clay, Lincolnshire uk - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 17:01:05 (PDT)
: I,m looking for information on Watsons Yard Ryhope. Family names: Nicholson + Donkin. 1887+ in Ryhope, Easington, Shotten or Haswell areas. Thankyou.
Angela <migran@telia.com>
Karlskrona, Sweden - Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:59:24 (PDT)
"Not Posh" I do disagree with you.... Wisdom comes from life's experiences. There is a big difference between being "Book" smart and smart by truly "living life" and experiencing life with a multitude of people from every social, economical, political, ethnic background. I thank God each day for the beautiful life he has given to me, by the fact that through all my many mistakes I have made in my life, that I am able to recognise those mistakes, and along the way has come wisdom. (Along with the beautiful encounters I have had with all kinds of people.)....... One can stay in one place, study all the books, be knowledgable on every topic in the world, but if one has not experienced life outside of the "books" one can be equally as ignorant as those who are not acdemically book smart. Wisdom has very little to do with "book smart"
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:58:16 (PDT)
Colin Hall, nice to see you back, just knew you would return! what did you think Colin, of the English Rugby teams magnificent wins against the All Blacks and the Wallabies? I know in your letter of 2/4/03 you stated "NTJ is clearly overcome by England's success in the the pussy-footing around that passes for rugby in the six-nations. Playing in the Southern Hemisphere is a different game Dear boy! England has played 24 games against New Zealand, of which they have won five, with one drawn[in 1997]. They won in England last year by a mere three points against an All Black team which had no less that seven new caps in it.A team of apprentices one might say.They next play the All Blacks in Wellington on 14th June this year,but the AB's will field a full-strength team, and will bury England. World Cup to England? Dream on sunshine, you are playing in Australia!" Have you now changed your views Colin?
Wise One
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:56:15 (PDT)
Butterfly Stomach, You do not make many contributions to this G/book, which is just as well, as the ones you do make are full of the vitriol you accuse others of making and also so full of inconsistancies that you could drive a bus through them. I have yet to see you bring up any subject of your own making. no original subject matter at all, just negative, blinkered, unconstructive criticism and misquotes in abundance, too many to go through. but to name one, I never said that the Pope was or should be "The Defender of the faith for the C of E" what I said was; "Defender of the faith? that title must surely go the the Pope in Rome who spoke his mind this week on this subject! and I say this as a Member of the Anglican Church" So Butterfly Stomach! can we look forward to some reasonable debate from you? I won't hold my breath. Oh and you needn't apologise for "picking on me" You "put your foot in your mouth" on a regular basis.
Wise One
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:55:11 (PDT)
W'ise One" for not seeing you for so many years, it seems "you and I" according to "Buterfly Stomach" have so much in common. I don't think you are I are an more hypocritical than humans are in general. I think we both speak our mind, and neither one of us "waffle" when it comes to what we believe in - we take a stance for what we feel to be right or wrong - I do the same thing. (Are we just both "rigid or what?" We are both just set in our ways! Anyway. later this evening I will go to www.google.com and search George Bush AWOL. Look forward to reading more comments. Oh and by the way, hey, I just read in the newspaper that Iran are now building Nukes, I think you are right, we need to be cautious of Iran. Take care and have a nice day today.. God Bless! :)
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:53:58 (PDT)
"Not Posh" You have a certain way of making me at a "loss" for words. Most people who know me, know I am rarely at a loss for chattering. You and "Wise One" and I think "Tom Morland" and "Oz Colin" are the few people who contribute to this G/B who are actually intelligent. (Not sure I ought to include myself in that sentence.. though I would like to, but my critics but beg to differ.)Anyway, you have some very good points, I like them! Don't always agree with them, but they're good.
Jacqueline
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:52:50 (PDT)
'wise one' & 'Jacqueline' there are a lot of things people do today that is not in keeping with the teachings of the Bible. One example is that most people today have or have had sex outside marraige, shock, horror, will we be condemned? Also one of the 10 commandments state that we should all remember the sabbath & keep it holy. We are not supposed to work on Sundays at all, so is everyone who works on sundays condemned too? How about everyone who has taken the Lords name in vain? the list could go on & on & on & on........... I wonder have either of you been guilty of sinning? if so, what makes you any better than the rest of us? as I said earlier it is mentioned in the Ten Commandments about the sabbath day & taking the Lords name in vain, but it is not mentioned in the 10 commandments about being gay, that is relegated to another part of the Bible. So really breaking a commandment will be a much bigger sin than being gay wouldn't you think? Take heed eve! ryone, if a job states that you should work on sundays, jack it in & turn gay instead!
Butterfly Stomach
- Monday, August 04, 2003 at 16:51:57 (PDT)
Wise One Some religions state that the procreation of children is the only valid reason for marriage. The Church of England has weathered, and, caused many storms thus I cannot envision its demise. You may have come from an ancestor who had many wives. Polyandry and Polygamy existed among the ancient Britons. Society changes based on the availability of food, water, shelter. Religious tenants change according to the leadership, and climate of the times. Marriage today bears little resemblance to its origins. It was not always a union between one man and one woman, but it has been a union between opposite sexes. As you, I find that the Pope’s stance fits more with my idea of marriage. Gay marriages don’t offend me, but neither do they appeal to me.
Not Posh
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:24:10 (PDT)
Jacqueline I’m not a fan of anyone, but I do respect many people. I neither like nor dislike Mr. Bush. His policies are what I dislike. He appears to be unable to understand his own words and actions. Unlike Mr. Blair, who is clear and concise, Mr. Bush is inarticulate. Numerous religions sanction a man having more than one wife; therefore it cannot be true that marriage is only between a (one) man and a (one) woman. It depends on the religion one follows. To acquire wisdom one needs to know one’s own history (country) and the history of the world. What do you really know about Iraq? Do you know who first used gas on the people of Iraq? Do you know why? Do you know how and why Iraq was divided into sections? Do you know the role played by Gertrude Bell? Do you know who Gertrude Bell was? The issue of war has always been simplistic, not complex. War, has always been about power, money, natural resources, hatred, coveting a neighbors’ goods and chattels. The war in Iraq is true to the pattern. Saddam is not equal to Hitler. They had different agendas, different ways of operating, and from different generations. There is no such person as a “good man”. Some religions state that man was born evil, and sinful. Mr. Bush may try hard to do the right thing, but whom is he doing it for, and who determines the right thing? Unfortunately Mr. Bush makes mistakes that affect all of us, determines world history, and results in changes in the world that billions of people in the world do not want.The people of Iraq are not free,they have been invaded, the invaders are still there.Mr Bush spoke for a world who did not want him as spokesman.
Not Posh
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:22:22 (PDT)
Jacqueline go to Google.com and enter "George Bush AWOL" then sort out the "wheat from the chaff" and make your own mind up!
Wise One
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:20:20 (PDT)
Wise One, how can the pope be defender of the faith for the Church of England? If you want him to be the defender of your faith, join the catholics! remember the pope is not chosen by god himself but by people in the vatican. I wonder just how many of them who selected him were gay themselves? you only have to see how they protect their bishops/priests/whatever over allegations of homosexuality & child abuse to realise that it is rife amongst the supposed 'holymen'. The church can be so hypocritical, a bit like you & Jacqueline actually, i think you may have found your vocation! I'm sure my religion teaches me forgiveness, understanding & tolerance, virtues that you don't possess. The way you & 'pratteline' go on I think that you think only you & her will make it to heaven! wouldn't that be lonely? or there again, you might just enjoy that, there would not be any room for anyone with ego's as big as the pair of you have. Sorry to seemingly pick on you, but ! if you will talk as if you are God himself, then you will come in for constructive critism! by the way, do have a nice day!
Butterfly Stomach
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:19:42 (PDT)
Thank you Ed for your innovations in the areas of Walkway and Football, and particularly that photo of the High Colliery team. It brings back some wonderful memories; my neighbours Geordie Monarch, and Norman Beer, and Brian Newby from whom I once acquired a second-hand pair of football boots. I was in that team but obviously not that year! Geordie Monarch, [anyone know where he is now?] was really quite good. We did quite well for a small school, though I can remember being done 11-0 once! I wonder if Norman[Beer} could put up that other school photo of which I know he has a copy? I'm holding the class details board! In fact, Eddie, how about a thread for similar photo's? It would be more relevant to the site than the daily drivel from Ms Markie which, frankly, should be either canned or restricted to one-liners! Seeing others photo's would strike a chord in what is a SEAHAM site, with little relevancy to Ms Markie's inane chatter.
Colin Hall
Wellington, New Zealand - Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:17:54 (PDT)
"Wise One" Good for you! We actually agree! My comments I made earlier this evening, have yet to be posted, hopefully they will be posted, But I asked you what you thought about openly Gay Bishops being ordained in the "Episcopal/Anglican" Church, such as the issue over here, which will be made by Monday. I wanted to know, as you are a father, with a teenager daughter, how you would feel having an "Openly gay" Priest, Vicar, etc.. standing at the pulpit teaching the word of God - The "Standards of the Bible." Homosexuality is not the standards of the Bible. Therefore, I do NOT believe that gay priest, vicars, chaplains etc.. ought to be ordained. Though, homosexuality has been going on since the dawn of time, it does not make it right. I am sure you would not want your daughter being taught by an openly gay (or gay in general) vicar that homosexuality is right and normal. I am so glad that you and I agree on this issue. I think we probably agree on more than what w! e think we disagree on. What do others think about this issue?
Jacqueline
- Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 16:15:25 (PDT)
Jacqueline, just thought i'd let you know that Mr. Blair would agree to anything if he thought it would earn him more votes.
not a Tony fan
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:18:34 (PDT)
'Jacqueline' so there are certain things you just have to learn to keep quiet about is there? why is it that haven't learnt that lesson then?
Teacher
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:18:00 (PDT)
Marriage according to my dictionary is, the state in which a Man and a Woman are formally united for the purpose of living together (usually in order to procreate Children) and with certain legal rights and obligations towards each other. It seems that the Church of England are hellbent on changing this to allow Gays and Lesbians to have a Marriage ceremony of sorts, this if allowed to happen will cause a schism in the C of E bigger by far than that caused by Henry VIII. and will be a disaster, over the years I along with other lay Members have "tolerated" the way they have changed this and that, like the words in some of the best loved hymns and even the change in "The Lords Prayer" but to me "Gay Marriages" will be the final straw and "nail in the coffin" for the Church of England. Defender of the faith? that title must surely go the the Pope in Rome who spoke his mind this week on this subject! and I say this as a Member of the Anglican Church
Wise One
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:17:20 (PDT)
"Not Posh" It is obvious you may not be a fan of our President, George W. Bush and that is okay. I am very much aware that our world is not made up of all Christians, I know that because I am well traveled, within Europe, parts of Africa, Canada, and more than half of the United States. I have came into contact with people from all walks of life in my relatively short life, thus far. My philosophy of one ataining wisdom, does not come with age, it comes from life experiences and with that, comes having the opportunity to have socialized with a multitude of people from every background you can imagine. Therefore, "Not Posh" I am most aware that our world is not made up of "All Christians." However, in every faith in our world, marriage is sanctified by a "man and a woman." The fact that the American President has recognized that, and opposes legalizing gay marriages, I think it does indeed say something about his morals and principles. Even he himself said, "we mus! t recognize we are all sinners." ............... The issue of the War, is very complex. I do indeed feel that we did the right thing. Saddam Hussain was a threat to our world and to his own people. You have read of what he did to his own people? How he torchured them beyond one's imagination. He was equal to Adolf Hitler. The people of Iraq have been freed and their is a new Government in place. The people of Iraq are working toward "A Democracy." I do however, believe that we need to get our soldiers out of Iraq as soon as possible, and turn the situation over to the United Nations. (though, I don't put much faith in the UN) The War also, may well have been about "Oil" but again, President Bush is a Politican, and we all know every politican and every Government have an agenda of their own. Just as people do what they do in life to survive, whether they are content with their life's path or not, they have to survive. Well, the governments do what they do as a matter of thi! nking what best help countries to survive. Perhaps we needed this war to boost the economy. It does not make it right, it does not justify it, but remember, It is all about Politics. Al Gore may have done the same thing. Unfortunately, Politicans do not always truly think about what is right, what is wrong, what is moral what is not - or think about principles. It is all Politics. You appear by your postings, to be very intelligent, it is obvious to me, and ought to be to others, therefore, you of all people on this Guest Book, should know that "All Politicans and all governments have their own agenda." Though, I do firmly believe that President Bush is a good man and tries very hard to do the right thing. He is human and makes mistakes, like we all do.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:14:40 (PDT)
"Not Posh" You are obviously not a "George Bush" fan. That is okay... Thank you, however, for pointing out some very valid issues to think about. Mind you, I was unaware that George Bush went "AWOL" I will research why he went AWOL. I thought he was pro-military, that was another reason why I wanted him to be President along with others. Being in the company and influence of Military for a total of 7 years working for them as their Nanny, one family for 5 years and another for 2 years,(And still being in close comapany with the families) I cannot help but be Pro-Military and appreciate everything our soldiers do - they put their lives on the line. Anyway thanks for that bit of information. Sorry we disagree, but as I have said before, differences of opinions helps keep a balance in society.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:11:55 (PDT)
Visited the old place recently, thanks to all who value and look after her, here's to better days . an older boy.
Robert Emmerson <bobemmerson@hotmail.com>
Greatham Village, Hartlepool England - Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:10:46 (PDT)
I'm sorry Jacqueline but dear old George Bush is nothing but a bigotted red-neck who makes his policies both foreign and domestic based on which right wing group will contribute to his campaign funds. We need to live and let live and stay out of peoples private lifestyles that we know nothing about, especially if you're not even in a long term relationship to be able to comment on what committment should be classified as.
Lesley Roberts <ladyboss67@yahoo.co.uk>
Phoenix, Arizona USA - Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:08:59 (PDT)
Jacqueline. As you are not Clinton or Gore you cannot be sure about what they would or would not do. If that is your reason for wanting George Bush to be president then you may have made the correct choice. How do you know that George Bush has morals and principles? Admitting ones mistakes, quite a huge one he made, doesn’t equate to character and integrity. As a reformed drunk, drug taker, awol serviceman, perhaps he is an excellent role model. "But who is to say another President would have done things any differently". Who is to say that they wouldn’t? I think that he is immoral, not in the religious sense, but in his approach to world affairs, the environment, greed for natural resources at the expense of human resources, inability to express himself, and taking an office that he wasn’t elected to hold.
Not Posh
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 16:46:35 (PDT)
Beofre you all start giving me "hell" for my strong opinion against "gay marriages" It is not that I am being judgmental, it is the principle of it. When we start to legalize gay marriages, we have just crossed the line way too far. (The same with cloning humans, if that ever came about - it is just crossing the line) Gay marriages are just not right and that is the way it is. If we all had gay marriages, then no way would we have children the natural way. People would all be using the sperm banks and that is also just not a natural way of having children. Of course, it is more acceptable when two people, male and female are trying to have a baby and there are compliactions, therefore, sperm bank maybe the only way to go. Otherwise, it is just not the natural way and not the way God indended. I don't have a problem with gays and lesbians in general, (I have 2 friends who are gay and lesbian - I don't understand neither one of them, but, I have known them for years,! and I am not going to stop being their friend because of their lifestyle)But I do have a problem with the gay community who are insisting on flaunting their lifestyle on the socially, acceptable "normal" hetrosexual community of this society. Also, I do not agree at all with the homosexual communty being allowed to adopt children. It is wrong, it is wrong! There is just no way they can be given the same equal teachings of "family values" as a child being raised with two parents of the opposite gender. I am sorry, if you all think I am being judgmental, but gay marriages and gays raising children, is just crossing the line way too much - it goes above and beyond tolerance. Though, if I was in the company of gays and lesbians,I would just try my hardest to keep my mouth shut, and not get into a political and religious discussion of the topics. There are certain things one should just learn to stay quiet about - I learned a little harder way of that lesson. Anyway, not sure i! f in England there is an uproar about legalizing gay marriages - and i f there was, do you think Tony Blair would agree to such a thing?
Jacqueline
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 16:44:57 (PDT)
Sorry ,it submitted before I'd finished.My understanding of the world is that God gave us free will.Whatever, road a person takes is between the person and God.It doesn't make any difference what George Bush thinks.Like the rest of us he'll not matter in a hundred years.However, if God is there, He'll remember. Bush is just a snowflake in a snowball.
Not Posh
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 16:42:40 (PDT)
J. All Mr. Bush said, was that, from a religious stance, he believes that marriage is only between a man and a woman. Some people in the world believe that, some don't.He does not make laws, like everyone else he has to follow them. He was expressing his belief, nothing to do with the reality of the world, just his view. Historically marriage is a relatively new "norm". He is not a religious leader, just a politician who is prone to lying. The world is not made up of Christians. M
Not Posh
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 16:41:52 (PDT)
"My friend" I wil not be available to visit this Friday, I am out of town for the next month and a half - business and pleasure. I am way too busy and only have time to check in early morning and late evening. Perhaps we could connect again sometime in late September,and maybe then we could do Sunday evenings. I still enjoy reading your great, and very kind sense of humor (humour) postings. I am not sure what "Guest" was talking about on Monday July 28th, when he/she said that you can "give it, but can't take it." I think you take things very well and "turn the other cheek" most graciously. I hope what I was told was told by an individual was wrong, and that you are doing well and are happy - you deserve all the beauty life can bring you.
"your friend"
- Friday, August 01, 2003 at 16:40:51 (PDT)
Bunyard's Exhibition I'll take that as a compliment, Old Bean!
Wise One
- Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 14:44:27 (PDT)
Thank God we have a decent President. George Bush has just today said "No" to legalizing gay marriages. I am sure if Bill Clinton was still President or even if Al Gore was President both would have legalized gay marriages. I knew there was a reason why I wanted George Bush to be President. Yes, I have heard from my British friends that President Bush is not well favored back in England over the Iraq War; but who is to say another President would have done things any differently? President Bush is a man with morals and principles. Just today he admitted his mistake over the Iraq/Uranium issue. One can make all they mistakes, if they are not intentional (though it is still does not justify the mistakes) However, if one admits mistakes and lives by "Principles" it shows character and integrity. I, for one, am all for the "Principles" of issues. For the American citizens who use this Guest Book, and there are a few, I think we have a super President. I think we need t! o be thankful.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 14:43:35 (PDT)
"Wise One" is a really great guy. I have known him for 24 years and he is just a really nice guy - and funny too! He use to makes us laugh at Church.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 14:42:08 (PDT)
John, or wise one, or whatever you call yourself. You just get funnier.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 17:07:33 (PDT)
Ive just browsed The George Elmy Gallery and would like to thank the compiler for an excellent job. some of the veiws brought back a lot of memories for me as a Deneside lad (Malvern Crescent) i spent a lot of time down the Harbour wher we used to knock about. i was also a member of the Sea Cadets so some of the dock scenes are quite familiar. things change for the better.
John Spencer <j.spencer33@ntlworld.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire England - Tuesday, July 29, 2003 at 16:43:58 (PDT)
Thanks Wise One for the information on St Andrews Church in Dalton-Le-Dale.
Denis Berry
Miramichi, New Brunswick Canada - Tuesday, July 29, 2003 at 16:41:15 (PDT)
"Not Psoh" Thank you! That was a super comeback to "True American" Though, I do seem to remember, a little, that I think he once mentioned that he had some "Native American" blood in him. Also, there again, most Americans now, all want to be "Irish" also. But I do not doubt that wee bit of Irish in him either, as he can be a little "stubborn" (and firm) he and I butted heads too many times - both are too stubborn. We will see if he answers the tribe his ancestors are from - that will be interesting, as you are right, the only tribes I hear Americans say they are from are the "Cherokee" tribe.
J
- Tuesday, July 29, 2003 at 16:38:00 (PDT)
We have recently added a photo gallery of the newly opened George Elmy Lifeboat Way and the Durham Coastal Footpath etc. You'll find a link at the top of the Guestbook. Hope you like it. If you have any relevant photos you can offer please send them in and we'll consider putting them up.
Ed Mason (Seaham Harbour Online)
Seaham, UK - Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:55:43 (PDT)
"Wise One" trip down memory lane... "Spying through the bushes" singing "Save my love for you my darling." Don't tell me you have forgot that evening.. I will never forget that evening for as long as I live... Not with the "T" I got into!
Your Friend
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:49:57 (PDT)
: "My friend" I went to www.BBC.com and there is a place to type in your local zip code (post code) and it brings up the weather. Gosh! It is only in the 60's! Here it is in the 90's. The other day in the west Virginia mountains it was about 74 degrees and I was a little chilled and wore a light cardigan. I think I would freeze if I was to be home and this is suppose to be summer time! Hey, you are going to have to get yourself out here for a vacation - then I will show you our fair grounds... "Six Flags" etc... lots of roller coasters! (Big dippers as we call them back home.)Actually, I am rather scared of some of the rides - I am showing my age, the more you know of what can go wrong with the rides, the less you want to ride them. When I was younger, ignorance was bliss. If you were to come here I would prefer to show to you the museams and battle fields, and other historical sites. Though, I will agree nothing beats the British Castles and Cathedrals. I still reme! mber that I was confirmed with your brother, in Durham Cathedral, Monday April 11th 1983 @ 7.00pm (What a terrific memory I have!)We were confirmed by the Bishop of Jarrow. I remember it was a very beautiful 2 hours or so cermony, as there were 200 of us being confirmed that evening. Iain Davison was also confirmed that evening. Do you remember that evening? Oh and do you remember some of the times we sat through very long and boring sermons at "SJC" and sometimes up at St.Mary's up near Deneside. Whatever did I do to bug you?!!! I wonder!!!
your friend
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:49:15 (PDT)
"Wish you were here" Thank you. I wish you were here too. Maybe a vacation sometime - would that be okay? Yes, I remember the "waltzer" and the "Umbrellas!" I thought the Seaham show was usually at the end of the summer season? Around the end of August or beginning of September right before the children go back to school. Anyway, I am so glad you had a good time.
Jacqueline
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:46:51 (PDT)
: Wise one you dont half slavver on about knowt.
huey
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:45:57 (PDT)
"Wise One" you are so right, "Life is too short to fall out" and I wish "True American" would realize that too.
J
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:45:21 (PDT)
Lol True American. The well known "fact" is that, whenever an American decides to have some North American Indian Blood ,it's always Cherokee. It's never Chickasaw,Lumbee,Choctaw,Pima.Rarely Comanche,Cheyenne,Seminole, etc. Is it because Americans really don't know that there are other Tribes? Most American movie stars who say that they have Indian blood always opt for Cherokee. Do you know why? A litle research will reveal all.
Not Posh
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:44:47 (PDT)
"Guest" neither "wise one" or myself have a "thing going on" he in Seaham, myself in USA... Be realistic and think about it. Besides, he has said himself, he does not always agree with me. In fact, I think most of the time he disagrees with me.
J
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:43:22 (PDT)
Onlooker, Which website did you get your 'we survived' entry from? I can remember reading it last year on a 'feel good' website. I would like to look it up again. Thanks
kopykat
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:42:40 (PDT)
"True American" I know who you are and I don't know where that came from.
a friend
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:41:34 (PDT)
"Wise One" glad you are fine and well. Hope you are having a fun summer with your family. Hope you eventually received your gift and card. Thank you for the compliment of my "sensible contributions." Are you sure you were not joking? Seems to others that not all my contributions are "sensible." I guess I do need to "reflect" and become more "open minded" and Stop with my "too forceful" opinions on topics such as "religion and politics." I miff quite a lot of people. I will do some refecting for the last half of this summer. Have a nice day! "Wise One"
you know who
- Monday, July 28, 2003 at 15:39:59 (PDT)
Congratulations on the opening of the George Elmy Way, the Elmy family are very proud that a lifeboat was named after one of our relations, but were of course shocked that it came to such a tragic end.
Martyn Elmy <martynelmy@hotmail.com>
Southwold, Suffolk UK - Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 16:02:28 (PDT)
Wise One...nice try; however, I am 75% Cherokee Indian descent. Thanks for your most astute response though.
True American
USA - Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 16:00:56 (PDT)
Jacqueline, You are familiar with the term "wish you were here?" now that's just what I was thinking about you today when I spent a very pleasant afternoon at Seaham Carnival, The Sun was shining and everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves among the stalls and the Fairground! How I wish I could have got you onto the Waltzer! you do remember the Waltzer don't you? an added bonus was that it was the Sunderland Air Show a little up the coast and we got the "tailend" of it, a really wonderful day and I just wish you could have joined in. I'm sure that Oz, NZ, USA etc are nice places, but so is Seaham, God bless all who live, or have lived there!
your Friend
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 16:00:10 (PDT)
Onlooker what a great entry keep up the good work
Miss Manners
Canada - Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:59:01 (PDT)
Markie not having your facts straight had nothing to do with what you said.You brag about what a good christian you are all the time on the guestbook and then you make a comment about a man who has just killed himself as getting himself in a tissy.This man is dead no matter what the facts of his story are its still a terrible thing .I don't believe any normal person christian or not could take such a cavalier attitude to the death of someone facts or no facts.
Miss Manners
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:58:18 (PDT)
Butterfly Stomach you are right in everything you say about (un)Wise One just ignore him and keep posting your messages I like you just read the book and don't submit but I felt like supporting you this time .Wise One and Jacqueline plus all her other alias's think they own the book .They are in a little cocoon together playing who rules the roost.They love to dish it but boy neither can take it.I believe they have a thing going on don't you
Guest
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:57:29 (PDT)
: "you know who" Thank you for your kind wishes, can't speak of course for Miss Manners, but I'm fine and always the better for reading your most sensible contributions to the G/b. and I do enjoy reading all the contributions! I don't know of a better G/b in the Universe!
Wise One
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:56:37 (PDT)
: "Butterfly Stomach" I don't really know if you are telling me off or praising me in your letter? perhaps its a bit like "the Parson's egg" I think you're heart is in the right place, but, (no offence) I think you are easily wound up. like a lot on this G/book, but life is too short to fall out!
Wise One
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:55:55 (PDT)
"True American" I know you are a "fisherman" by hobby, but watch out, because you are "fishing" in the wrong sea on this Guest-book. I may bug a lot of people with all my "chitter-chatter" about "this and that".... but, I know they don't mind, at least not all the time. So, I know if you get way too "personal" (which I ask you to please not, as I am not getting "personal" with you. I do have a level of respect for you.) my dear friend "Wise One" will very kindly, as a well brought up British Gentleman would, come to my defence. (Spelled the British way just for you "Wise One.") Have a nice day "True American" and perhaps you could go "fish" in another "Sea" and not this "Sea"(ham)
a friend
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:55:13 (PDT)
"Wise One" you are so kind to come to my aid, when certain "people" seem to enjoy "bugging" others. That was a good come back you gave to "True American." I know this person and the person is NOT a native American. I think, if I have got it right, this person has an English last name and has a tint of Irish in the blood. This person is a "he." Though, I will say, he is good at using some "British" words, he must have a British friend.
a friend
- Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 15:53:47 (PDT)
To TONY FROM SPAIN, Hi. The reunion for the old girls and boys from Seaham Intermediate School is to be held on the 10th October 2003 at the Marlbough Club Seaham. Up to now there are approximatly 18 of us going. It would be great if you could be there too. Love Sadie and Eddie
Sadie Mason nee Beer
Seaham, Durham UK - Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 14:04:37 (PDT)
True American, the only true American is (probably) the American native-born Indian! Which Tribe are you from "True American?"
Wise One
- Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 13:59:59 (PDT)
"True American" I know who you are - you are not amusing at all. In fact, you are going to look pretty stupid.
a friend
- Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 13:59:20 (PDT)
"Wise One" and "Miss Manners" how are you two doing today? I hope well. "Miss Manners" I hope you saw my apology of a dreadful mistake I made through not having my facts put straight over the suicide of David Kelly. Without having all my facts put straight, yes, that was a stupid comment I had made. Anyway, I am off for now, talk to you all later.
you know who
- Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 13:58:42 (PDT)
Dear Wise One,I'd just like to comment on one or two points you made. firstly, I am not sensitive & easily wound up, far from it, in fact i'm normally so laid back you could knock me down with a feather. I have no idea who bunyard is, but i reponded to your posting to him, as i did think you were belittling him. (I would repond exactly the same way & defend you too if i thought you were being belittled for no good reason). Secondly I think it is you & not I who is confused as to what belittling & constructive critism is, people only have to scroll down to see the comment you made about his name to realise that, also saying you hated saying to me 'Have a nice day' so that is constructive critism is it? I think not. There have been plenty of entries from you speaking good sense & then there has been times when you've spouted a load of codswallop, but this is the 1st time i've spoken up, so does that make me sensitive & wound up? Also why spout quotations about if y! ou can't stand the heat, etc, why on earth should i 'get out of the kitchen'? contrary to your belief, i do not come into the guest book just to read what you say, i come online to read other peoples codswallop too.(& their good opinions too). So that is all from me for now, but i can say hand on heart to you, I wish you to have a very happy day! (And i mean it)
Butterfly Stomach
- Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 13:56:23 (PDT)
Onlooker, what a breath of fresh air! You are a voice of sanity in the insane world we live in at present. God Bless you Sir or Madam.
Critics Choice
- Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 13:54:37 (PDT)
Hiya Sadie..Hope you and Ed. are both keeping well,I left Seaham secondary in 1953 the name Norman Beer brings back memories would be interested in attending a re-union if possible .Cheers Tony
Tony From Spain
Espania - Friday, July 25, 2003 at 23:17:48 (PDT)
"butterfly stomach" You are confusing verbal belittling with constructive criticism, your pal Bunyard (old Bean) has got a Bee(n) in his bonnet! People like you and Old Bean are too sensitive and easily "wound up" so my advice is "if you can't stand the heat etc" or "let him without sin throw etc" or People in glasshouses etc" any way butterfly stomach "have a nice day, I just hate saying that last bit!
Wise One
- Friday, July 25, 2003 at 23:16:45 (PDT)
Denis Berry, St Andrews Church at the Dale is probably late 12th Century, but it could be as early as 8th Century, and as for Oliver Cromwell, don't think he was anywhere near Dalton-le-Dale, he couldn't even "find" Durham Cathedral, which was a good thing for us.
Wise One
- Friday, July 25, 2003 at 23:15:56 (PDT)
We are Survivors (For those born before 1940....consider the changes we have witnessed) We were born before the TV age, before polio shots, frozen food, plastics, contact lenses, Frisbees and the pill . We were before refrigerators, dishwashers, tumble dryers, electric blankets, airconditioners, credit cards, split atoms, laser beams, ballpoint pens and...before man could walk on the moon. We got married first and then lived to-gether. How quaint can you be? In our time closets were for clothes, not for 'coming out of'. Bunnies were small rabbits and dishes were for washing not for receiving programmes from out space. Designer Jeans were scheming girls and having a meaningful relationship meant getting along well with cousins. We thought fast food was what you ate during Lent and cold turkey was what you ate on Boxing Day We were before house husbands, gay rights, computer dating, dual careers and computor marriages. Divorce was something that happened to film stars. We were before day care centres, group therapy and nursing homes. We played with Dinky Toys, wore sock suspenders and braces, plastered our hair with Brylcream or Brilliantine and took a daily dose of cod liver oil and malt. We drank Ovaltine, ate porridge and listened to Dick Barton, ITMA, Workers Playtime and Housewives Choice. We had never heard of Radio One, tape decks, electric typewriters, artificial hearts, word processors or yoghurt. For us, time sharing meant togetherness not Spanish Holiday Homes, a chip meant a piece of wood , hardware meant a shop where you bought hammers and nails, and software wasn't even a word. In 1940, ' Made in Japan' meant poor quality and the Koreans and Taiwanese hadn't even started production. Pizzas, McDonalds and instant coffee were unheard of. We were born when nothing in Woolworth's cost more than sixpence. For sixpence you could take a ride on a tram, go to the cinema and buy an ice cream. In our day cigarette smoking was fashionable, grass was mowed, Coke was a cold drink or something you kept in a coal shed and pot was something you cooked in. Rock music was a lullaby and Aids were for those with hearing difficulties. We were certainly not before the differences between the sexes were discovered, but we were surely before the sex change. We made do with what we had and we were the last generation to think that you needed a husband to have a baby. We typed letters with a manual typewriter, did calculations in our head or by hand and used carbon paper to make copies. We used telephones without buttons or dials and FAX was something you looked up in an encyclopaedia. We did business with a handshake and trust ,yet somehow it all worked out......... We Survived
onlooker
- Friday, July 25, 2003 at 23:15:05 (PDT)
To All Guestbookers and any one else who may read this. If you left Seaham Intermediate School (Seaham Secondary Modern)in the 1950's there is going to be a reunion. Norman Beer and Alan Donaldson are the contacts. If you want to know more please get in touch with me via the Guest Book.
Sadie Mason nee Beer.
Seaham, Durham UK - Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 15:51:21 (PDT)
Markie how dare you say Dr Kelly got himself in a tissy and killed himself..What a stupid remark .Only you who puts such importance on yourself could come out and say something like that have you no decency at all
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 15:46:41 (PDT)
Why, Oh why do certain people on the guestbook think that their word is gospel. If people express a different point of view from the regulars on here then they are immediately belittled or rubbished. It is childish & visitors to the site will soon get bored with it. Everyone has opinions & are entitled to speak them, but to be belittles just because of their screen name is rediculous. Bunyards exhibition has made some good valid points & you should take heed. A truly 'wise one' would not stoop to verbal belittling of anyone. Well I await with baited breath my punishment for speaking up. I give it a couple of days before i am slated by you!
butterfly stomach
- Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 15:45:44 (PDT)
"Bunyards Exibit" Well, never mind about my comment of the "David Kelly" issue. I realized about an hour or so afterwards when I was reading the newspaper and listening to the news that I had royaly "goofed up!" And got my facts WRONG! With a CAPITAL "W" - My mistake and willingly will admit it.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 15:44:23 (PDT)
Well the Lads lost their first pre-season game 2-0 at Huddersfield. They missed several golden opportunities (even without Phillips to miss them) and seem to have lost two goals through mediocre defending. I can see Mick's got them on the right track and by the opening game we are bound to be back to our best as we were at the end of last season. Have a look at the Sunderland-afc.com website. Mick's asking if we have the passion. Naw! Not just yet.
Micks Mentor
Seaham, England - Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 15:43:10 (PDT)
"Bunyard's Exhibition" well what do you know, its a bean... A very early tall growing variety bearing enormous pods". and no doubt with illusions of Grandeur! now that makes me laugh!
Wise One
- Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 16:25:11 (PDT)
How did you become such a snob Jacqueline? If people don't agree with you you suggest that they are wrong. And now I read that you think that children from poor backgrounds might know what sex is. Do you think rich parents are automatically better? And your comment about Dr Kelly just exposes your ignorance.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 16:24:31 (PDT)
To Not So Posh at last we agree.I only have one more thing to say I did not say education was a sin if you look back at that entry you will see what I thought was a sin
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 16:23:05 (PDT)
To Not So Posh at last we agree
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 16:21:42 (PDT)
"Wise One" I did not know you were a "Newcastle" football fan. Are they a good team now? Everytime I see a Newcastle Bown Ale beer over here, I will now think of you. Of course, I don't drink beer, as I don't like it. But a few people I know drink Newcastle Brown Ale. Anyway, talk to you later - can't wait.
JKM
- Wednesday, July 23, 2003 at 16:20:58 (PDT)
Miss Manners I dont believe that I said that. What I did say was that such a program would teach children how to act/ react, to/in certain situations. I most certainly do not believe that sex education is all that is needed. I was replying to a post where the poster did not think it a sound idea to teach sex education, I replied that not only was a sound idea but also greatly needed. I most certainly do not think that children should not be supervised. What I do believe is that it is an almost impossible task. Children go to school, play with friends, attend sporting events etc. It is evident from many child abduction cases that, despite the fact that the children were very well supervised, they vanished, on occasion with parents close by. Knowing what to do in a situation has saved some children. But again, apart from the parents, what does your school and community do to help keep children safe? How do they work with the home? I believe that they do a great deal. Nothing will ever b! e enough, but everything should be considered. From what I have read it will be a balance between home and school.
Not Posh
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:32:08 (PDT)
"My friend" I will not be available this Friday. will be available this Tuesday and Wednesday evening to visit. I will go on chat line at our times and if you are there we can visit. Hope to see you.
Your Friend
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:30:56 (PDT)
A lot of the rants and 'arguments' put forward on this guestbook begger belief, but when I read Wise One's 'why have thou forsaken me' nonsensical comparison of Bush and Blair to Our Lord I actually laughed out loud.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibtion@aol.com>
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:30:17 (PDT)
how i wish that phillips goes to the gers!!!!!if they depend on him to score the goals next season then its the treble for us!!!hoops =celtic fc bye the way!!
hoops forever
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:29:12 (PDT)
"Mick's Mentor" Can't agree with you, re Sunderlands prospects for the new season! They could struggle in the First Division, I am a Newcastle Utd supporter through and through, but I get no joy out of the Machs being down in the lower Division. The Players do not deserve such magnificent supporters and neither do the Directors, who should all hang their heads in shame, in particular the Man at the top, who virtually owns the Club, I mean the Chairman himself who should carry the can for the whole sorry debacle. They should "give" the Club back to the Fans who've had a raw deal for years.
Wise One
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:28:29 (PDT)
Whya re my Posting to "Wise One" Not being posted? Or postings to "My friend" not being posted? Again, My friend I will not be available this Friday to chat, but can on Wednesday, I could on Tuesday but now you won't get the message in time. Also, did you get your gift fromt eh appropriate person? Please let me know - thanks.
Your Friend
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:27:31 (PDT)
And which penname was that on-looker?
Perre Spective
- Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at 16:26:36 (PDT)
I am pleased our european friends did not join in the war with Saddam because the French would have given up and let someone else do the fighting for them and the Germans would have tried to take over the world.
Winston
seaham, - Monday, July 21, 2003 at 15:42:10 (PDT)
"Not Posh" You seem to make some very good and valid points. Sex education is NOT a sin, I guess I just don't think that a child of 5 or 6 understands the term "sex" education. But, there again, children are exposed to so much more these days than ever before, with television, movies and even video games - I bet some 6 yr olds who live in the poorer areas of where I work are aware of what sex actually is. I think perhaps you are right, we do need to educate our children and perhaps 5 yrs old is not too young. I would rather myself and a decent school teacher teach my children the correct way of sex education and explain the beauty in it, and not a negative impression of it. Also, to teach my children how to protect themselves from offenders. I have to realize that we live in a very different world these days, as to when I was a child - children today grow up too fast.
JKM
USA - Monday, July 21, 2003 at 15:41:18 (PDT)
To Not So Posh you tell me how a five year old child would use sex- ed when they have been taken away by a pedophile.I repeat again I am not against sex-ed it is just not enough.you don't have to use a straight jacket to know what your children are doing you are just involved with what your children are doing.you seem to think that sex ed is all that is needed .You seem to think its wrong to supervise your children.Yes there are parents who are not very good when it comes to child rearing .So maybe sex-ed would help them.Maybe when the children are in sex-ed it should be compulsory the parents attend as well.
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, July 21, 2003 at 15:39:56 (PDT)
Can anyone tell me how old the Church is in Dalton-le dale. My great Uncle Tommy Berry's funeral was held there 46years ago. And is it true that Oliver Chromwell missed burning it down when he was heading north.
Denis Berry
Miramichi, New Brunswick Canada - Monday, July 21, 2003 at 15:38:34 (PDT)
They're not doing so bad, the Lads. Three pre-season games unbeaten and we've still got to cash in on our quality players like Phillips and Sorenson. Then we'll be able to buy some new quality players with the money and off we go again. Any bets on us getting promoted this season. Straight back up. That'll be us.
Mick's Mentor
Seaham, England - Monday, July 21, 2003 at 00:40:14 (PDT)
"Perre Spective" youre last "penname" was a better one!
on-looker
- Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:58:28 (PDT)
"Wise One" you are So RIGHT about North Korea - Oh I wish other people would take it serious too. But Mother Teresa said, "The fruits of abortion is nuclear war." We as humans do not respect human life, we have abortions, we have people commiting suicide, we have people killing, there are very few homes now where children have parents who are still married, they are now becoming homes where there are homosexuals raising children, we have lost all sense of morals and pride and self dignity. We have thrown away all what God has taught to us. What was once considered "wrong" is now right and what was once considered "right" is now wrong. No-one knows what "sin" is anymore, because everything nowadays, is "anything goes." I try to teach families and children and teenagers and young adults, about the importance of "chasity" until marriage, and the general society say, "we" in our ministry group, are not normal and are "square heads." If we went back to the old tradition! al family values, society would be much better off for it. Anyway, Yes, again, "Wise One" I am also very concerned about North Korea. Here in Washington DC I am kept up to date very well on the Political stance of it all and I can tell you, there is a lot our government are not revealing to us. By the way go to: www.wnd.com and there you can get great news that you can trust. "Wise One" you are such a "sweetie" and smart too. You are different to your family; they should be proud of you, despite the challenges you face in your life. You are a good person. Thank you! :)
Jkm
- Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:57:10 (PDT)
Went along to my local pub The Hadwick Hotel on Saturday night 19/07/03 and to my surprise there was entertainment on. The entertainment was in the form of a band from Seaham called The Pop - Eyed Dolls. A varied mix of music from 50s rock and roll 60s classics right through to even 70s and modern punk. My wife and I had a magnificent night and by the reaction of every one else in the pub which was almost full, it will not be long before The Pop - Eyed Dolls return to The Hardwick to entertain us again.
Jim Thomas
Blackhall, England - Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:55:04 (PDT)
Jacqueline, with regard to me copying your messages and you appending my name to yours, someone is trying to !"wind us up" if we ignore them they'll just go away! if they don't "go away" just ignore them just the same, that type of person is pathetic.
Wise One
- Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:53:35 (PDT)
Enjoyed reading your site, great content, Keep up the good work!
Eleanor Burton
US - Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:52:58 (PDT)
Miss Manners. You may not think that, but can you prove it? What do you understand by the term “sex education”? It is not being promoted as a preventive measure, rather as a tool for young children to understand the world in which they live. A sin? What nonsense, I know all the sins, education isn’t one of them. I applaud any parent who is able to monitor every movement, friend, and activity of their child, however, that is an impossible task to give to a parent. On the other hand how dreadful for a child to be constantly monitored by a parent. Why not just buy a straight jacket, or simply don’t have any children? Just a simple exercise, how many children in your community have been molested? Do you know what is being taught in your schools re sex education? I am surprised that you are unable to accept that all parents are not like your good self. I read the newspapers. The percentage of crimes against children is very low when the population is taken into consi! deration. We all have to be on our guard, and professional instruction is a necessity.
Not Posh
- Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:51:52 (PDT)
"Wise One" I am supporting our President, but at the moment it is hard to know what to believe. Also why did David Kelly kill himself, if the reports of Saddam Hussain purchasing Uraniam from Africa were true, then David Kelly would have had no reason to be in such a "tissy" and want to kill himself.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, July 20, 2003 at 23:50:06 (PDT)
jkm My mother is from a British background, my father is from a German background, both Canadian. I'm Canadian. They are both in Europe at the moment and will be going to Durham.I went to a "fee paying school", where it was Lower School and Upper School.I suppose the equivalent of the old British way of "lower sixth and upper sixth" .
Not Posh
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:28:47 (PDT)
My dear Friend, This is one of the few nights my server would allow me into chatroom, waited till 11-00pm sorry you couldn't make it your Friend,
Your Friend
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:27:56 (PDT)
"Ture American" I was NOT bashing George Bush. In fact, I was a very strong supporter of Bush. I was very happy he was elected President rather than Al Gore. If you have read through previous postings, you will see that I have ALWAYS supported our President George W. Bush. (I have often come under sharp attack for it, I will have you know.) However, at the moment there are just a few questions to be raised about the credibility of our President's role in this Iraq situation - Along with Tony Blair. By the way, Blair's speech was outstanding! He is a remarkable speaker!
JKM
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:27:19 (PDT)
Not So Posh I repeat I am not against sex ed for children from the age of five to whatever but I don't think for one minute that any five year old child taking sex ed has any more of a chance of not being caught in any trap set by a sex predator or pervert than a five ,six etc child who has not been taught sex ed.Read your newspapers and see what is happening in this world grown women and yes even grown men are being abused and killed by these degenerates what chance does a young child have even with a degree in sex ed.To promote sex ed as a preventive measure against these types of people you are being misleading .If one parent takes your advice on this it will be a sin.Parents need to protect their children by constant monitoring,knowing every movement, every friend, every activity the child is involved in .
Miss Manners
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:26:31 (PDT)
I sincerely believe that life begins at conception and ends at death, or abortion, whichever comes first!
Wise One
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:25:28 (PDT)
Jacqueline, I believe that you inadvertently appended my name to your message to "Perre Spective" on July 18th @ 15-26-47 God Bless
Wise One
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:24:44 (PDT)
"Wise One" Why did you "copy" my response to "Perre Spective?"
JKM
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:24:03 (PDT)
From the news today: "North Korea poses the "most immediate and the most serious threat." What else is new in the news? Well...the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court is focusing on allowing Gay sex marriages to be legalized,It will most likely go to the Supreme Court for another hearing, which will most likley pass, unlike last month where it failed to be passed. Since then, many companies, cooporations have made issues over it saying it is "discrimination." People, I ask you - How normal is it to have the same sex marriages? If I had children I would not wish for my children to be exposed to that kind of "family" environmnet too much. How can people of the same sex produce children? But there again, look what we now have - Sperm banks, and "this and that" where you can now choose the genetics of your baby. I think we have just gone too far with this liberalisim. We are a society that is out of control - we are like very spoilt brats. Anyway, more sad new is that! another one of our soldiers have been killed today in Iraq. We need to pray for our world and for ourselves - we are just a mess!
JKM
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:23:28 (PDT)
Wise One, I think it is fair to say that we all know what parents "should" do, however for various reasons... religious stance, inability, many do not do what others think that they "should" do. I have problems with the word "should", encourage, may be a better word. Globally children appear to be abused by adults, whether as child soldiers, mental abuse, and physical abuse, often by the parents of said children. The home, ideally, is the best place to teach values realistically it is not happening. Extra resources ,in the form of instruction ,can only help not harm.There isn't an age when sex education is more, or less, appropriate. Sooner better than later is perhaps the best approach.
Not Posh
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:22:07 (PDT)
Jacqueline, When Jesus was on the Cross, he asked the Lord "Why hast thou forsaken me?" and here we have you forsaking your President in his time of need when he and PM Blair need all of our support. What they did was right! they have freed the People of Iraq and take my word for it a bigger threat to our freedom and the lives of our loved ones will come eventually, probably sooner than later, from North Korea and to a lesser extent from Iran. So I say to you, besides having pride in the Country of your Birth, also have pride in your Adopted Country. The whole of the "free World" needs to stand up and be counted now! Britain and America rely on each other! we cannot rely on the "chicken-hearted" French or Germans
Wise One
- Saturday, July 19, 2003 at 17:21:04 (PDT)
a few memories brought back with this one
broxon <warspite@aol.comm>
derwentside, durham england - Friday, July 18, 2003 at 15:28:13 (PDT)
"Perre Spective" Abortion as a means of birth control is so wrong indeed - it is murdering and that is not the answer to prevent teenage pregnancy. The answer is to educate and also to teach teenagers to wait until marriage before having sexual intercourse. If people would wait until they are married, there would indeed be less abortions. Jacqueline - Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:12:42 (PDT)
Wise One
- Friday, July 18, 2003 at 15:26:47 (PDT)
Oh, "Not Posh" I am trying to figure out if you are an American as you spell "apologize" the American way. But in one of your earlier postings you had said you did not go to a thing call a "high school." Americans refer to secondary school (or senior school) as "high school." So what nationality are you? I am just curious, and you don't haev to answer if you do not want to. Have a nice day! :)
jkm
- Friday, July 18, 2003 at 15:25:35 (PDT)
Jacquie or Jacqueline...whatever you prefer...in response to your comment regarding faith in President Bush...you state... "Well that is it! I think I am going to join the majority of my fellow British citizens..." By all means do join them...and move back...as the majority of them live in England you know. Nay sayers (IMMIGRANTS...be they here legally OR NOT...LOL) such as yourself are at the very heart of the perceived social discontent that we see all around us. Perhaps if more of you got on board and supported the very government you so frequently bash, the country would be much better indeed.
A True American
USA - Friday, July 18, 2003 at 15:24:45 (PDT)
"Not Posh" Thank you for your kind apologies. I know somtimes I instigate and "stir the pot" that it is probably easy to give me a "harsh" comeback at times. Anyway, JKM is rather fine with me - thank you for asking. Have a beautiful day.
JKM
- Friday, July 18, 2003 at 15:22:42 (PDT)
Wise one.....thanks for the names of the shafts.
Essare 7
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:22:03 (PDT)
Jacqueline in an earlier post it appeared that you were going to use the initials JKM. I thought that it was in response to the dangers that may exist in using a real name. Pehaps you could state your preference. If I have appeared to be harsh in my comments to you I apologize.
Not Posh
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:21:17 (PDT)
Well that is it! I think I am going to join the majority of my fellow British citizens and admit that at this point, I think I am losing all faith in our American President, George W. Bush. But there again, I am not sure of Al Gore, if he had made Presidency, wouldn't have made the same decisions as Bush. I am not sure if another President could have made better decisions refering to the Iraq War. I really did think it was all about ousting out Saddam Hussain, because of his level of threat to the world, due to him having Chemical and Biological weapons of mass destruction. Though he did use them on his own people. I hate to read each day that our soldiers are being killed by guerilla warfare attacks. I hate to read that our soldiers are going to have to be in Iraq for at least another 4 more years. I read that one of the soldiers who is currently in Iraq, had said, that if Donald Rumsfeld was there in Iraq, he would ask for his reginsation. There is very little lo! w morale among the soldiers. I am really feeling badly that I was one of the ones who supported this war. I did, because I really thought it was all about "weapons of mass destruction" and then, our soldiers would be out of Iraq very shortly after the war was over. I feel so very sad for the families who have lost a son, daughter, mother or father, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin and friends. I am just not sure what the Bush administration is thinking at this time.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:20:36 (PDT)
Miss Manners, nice to see you back again, with a very valuable contribution! what you say is correct and should be taught to Children at a very early age by their Parents, prior to sex education.
Wise One
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:19:27 (PDT)
I was born in Seaham in 1950 and left what to me was a dead end place with 3 coal mines and docks. Well was I wrong, time changes things and I look forward to looking around the old place when I come over in 2004.
Jim Hogg <Hogwash@paradise.net.nz>
Paraparaumu, New Zealand - Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:18:15 (PDT)
Miss Manners Why do you think that it doesnt protect children from perverts/ predators? Many parents do try to street proof their children and many dont. Trained professionals are badly needed. I believe the difficulty is that many people misunderstand what sex education is in terms of teaching young children. The word sex probably wont even be mentioned. The things that you mention are the very things that will be taught. Sex education will help a child who is caught in the clutches of evil, training to detect the guise that it takes, what responses are necessary, how to avoid placing oneself in danger, how to escape if caught, what to do, what not to do. Sex education isnt really about where babies come from (sorry cant resistEngland, Africa) but about family life, health and well being, making wises choices, all things that need to be taught. Definitely the time has come that such things are taught not left to chance.
Not Posh
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:16:52 (PDT)
"Not Posh" Why is it that you and "Miss Manners" like to get on my case? I live my life very well - thank you. And I don't just go inflicting my religion on to others. What I do, do, is state my opinions. Anyway, have a nice day :)
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:15:12 (PDT)
Since when has abortion been a method of contraception? answers on a postcard please........
Essare7
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:14:33 (PDT)
: "Perre Spective" Abortion as a means of birth control is so wrong indeed - it is murdering and that is not the answer to prevent teenage pregnancy. The answer is to educate and also to teach teenagers to wait until marriage before having sexual intercourse. If people would wait until they are married, there would indeed be less abortions.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:12:42 (PDT)
"Mel TingPoint" Thank you for your kind advice, in a very gentle manner. I get your point and case taken very well. Thank you. :)
Jacqueline
- Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 15:11:53 (PDT)
This site is really great! I love it. Nice greetings from Lastminute.
lastminute <lastminute>
Bonn, de Germany - Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 06:30:19 (PDT)
This site is really great! I love it. Nice greetings from Lastminute.
lastminute <lastminute>
Bonn, de Germany - Thursday, July 17, 2003 at 02:47:53 (PDT)
Okay "Not Posh" You may a point. I just get on my high horses with morals.
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:44:54 (PDT)
"Not Posh" How do you know my name is JKM? I am thinking I may know you.
Jacqueline
- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:44:20 (PDT)
Jackie,you are reet!!it is truly outrageous that girls as young as 13,14,and 15 are giving birth in Seaham and Disrict.Dont they listen to they're mothers??abortions have been available for years,and have been widely used as a method of contraception in the past!be told young un's
Perre Spective
- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:43:48 (PDT)
i had to visit this site for school and think it has a lot of info on seaham
Craig Forrest
seaham, durham england - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:42:34 (PDT)
'I just simply could not push Christianity onto my dear Jewish friends', however, you don't mind inflicting it on the Guest board guests. Many of the visitors are not Christians, so why sow seeds on barren ground? Most prisons are full of Christians, because it suits their purpose. I admire Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, Protestants, et al but those who scream Christian send a cold shudder down my spine. I've come across so many Christians, born again, whatever, that means, that I avoid ,because they come across as con guys and insincere.Why the need to say"I'm a Christian"? Anyone who needs to say that rather than the denomination that they belong to,protests too much. There's a couple of world leaders who use that same line as a cover for their actions.Drop the religous stance and just be Jacqueline. Most of us have our own religions which we cherish, but don't inflict our belief on others. Try it , you may find it a peaceful way of life.
Not Posh
- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:41:04 (PDT)
It is extremely important for all young Children to receive at an early age, suitable sex education, in order to help to protect them from the many dangerous situations which can await them in childhood and indeed adult life too, also to warn them of the dangers of talking to strangers who could be perverts or worse! unfortunately the innocence of Children sometimes has too take second place to their safety, I find that sex education of Children is an embarrassment not to the Children, but to the Adults, that is to the Parents and G/Parents. At what age to start? as early as practicable, perhaps you're right Jacqueline, five years may be a little on the young side, seven or eight may be a better time! but I'm not an expert, just concerned that we do the right thing to protect and educate the Children.
Wise One
- Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:39:25 (PDT)
Did any one watch ‘Casualties of Peace’ on Monday night, channel 4? My grandson, young Geoff Gray from Seaham is one of those casualties. Please log on to justice4ptegeoffgray.co.uk and leave a few words of comfort for a Seaham family in distress. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:38:18 (PDT)
To not so posh, I am not against sex ed for children but I do not think that it protects our children from perverts and predators.I believe it is up to parents to streetproof our kids.A predater is not going to come right out and talk sex to lure a child but he is going to use other means like candy, puppies,telling the kids that they parents sent him to get them .Sex ed is not going to help any child once they are in the clutches of evil.
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:37:13 (PDT)
I THINK THIS SITE IS QIUTE INTERESTING BUT IT NEEDS A BIT MORE EXICTMENT
VICKY CARRUTHERS
SEAHAM, DURHAM ENGLAND - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 at 14:35:53 (PDT)
Essare7 The shafts names were I believe Theresa and Castlereagh.
Wise One
- Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:34:12 (PDT)
"Wise One" since when did you sttart to spell things the "American" way? EG: "Mom" the British spelling is "Mam" or "Mum." Anyway, not sure how to take that comment. Yes, you are right the "Red Sox" Baseball is a Yankee team (Boston.) How did you know that? Hope you are well. Maybe I will see you on "chat" line this Friday afternoon.
Jacqueline
- Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:33:19 (PDT)
Jacqueline... you must be the dullest person in the world. All we get on this guestbook from you is innane drivel (with bad spelling). I'm really not having a personal attack on you Jacqueline (as many do) I'm trying to guide you into a less self opinionated mindset. Here in Seaham we like to ask eachother things on the guestbook like "have you seen blah, blah, blah" from Camden Square School, "hell did we have some fun there", do you remember when we..... you get my drift Jacqueline? Why don't you lower your moral highground for a while, dispense with the brimstone and thunder, and try to be, well, a bit more normal. I distinctly feel the mood towards you getting a bit cooler, so Jacqueline please, to preserve your dignity tone it down,
Mel Tingpoint <mt243@aol.com>
Reigate, Mozambique - Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:32:35 (PDT)
"One Wise" Oh, now 1 hour later, now I think I get the joke about the "Yakee Fan" and the Red Sox" fan. The teacher first asked who was a "Yakee fan?" when the little girl said she was a Red Sox fan, etc.. then the teacher said, "Would that make you a moran.?" Then she said, "No, It makes me a "Yakee Fan!" Oh, yes, yes, yes, I get it now. Sometimes, things just go over my head! well.... anyway.. okay I am off for now. By the way, I had fun in New York this weekend. Byeee....
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:30:43 (PDT)
JKM It is necessary that young children be taught sex education. Evil people in the world ensnare children into their wicked world. Forewarned is forearmed. It has little, if anything, to do with religion, home life, wealth, poverty, right, or wrong. Education is the only way to protect our children from the predators among us. Be happy that it will become compulsory, indeed fight for it to happen in your neighborhood. Ignorance has never been a good thing. All children have a right to know how to protect themselves. It is adults that they must turn to for support, adults who have their best interest at heart. If sex education saves one child from a predator, then any time and money spent on such programs, is time and money very well spent.
Not Posh
- Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:28:35 (PDT)
So I just read in the newspaper: "North Korea agrees to pursue a peaceful Solution" - We will see how long it lasts! That will be the next place we will be off fighting if Politicians are not careful. "Wars and rumors of Wars" Isn't that a Biblical predicition? Wait till the fall, when the summer fun is all over, I bet you things start heating up again. Anyway, y'all have a super weekend. I am off now to drive up to New York for the weekend. Take care and God Bless. "Wise One" don't be too cross - just get a grip! And follow your faith as your have been doing. You really are a nice guy (and I mean that.)I have no idea why your life has been the "mills" so to speak. (Unless you have allowed certain people to control your life - make your own decisions and be your own person. After all, it is "your" life - Well, "your life with God." Anyway, have a nice weekend, on my way to New York I usually pray the Rosary Beads in the car, so I will ask Our Blessed Mother to int! ercede for you too. Bye!
"Y'all know who"
USA - Monday, July 14, 2003 at 01:27:27 (PDT)
To: I have given up. As far as I am aware I have received no entries for you and therefore have not not entered them. Please check your entries are being forwarded.
Sadie Mason
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:59:12 (PDT)
"My friend" I waited for you on "chat" line from your time at 10.00pm ish, until 11.00pm. I was actually doing some flight research. Anyway, your friend "Berry" was on chat line, he was expecting you as you have some "Information" to give to him - (Address and phone numbers.) I guess your server was down, or you choose not to speak with me as I have a "big mouth!" Sorry! I have yet to learn the art of "silence!" I always just have to speak my mind. Anyway, hope you are okay.
"Your Friend"
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:53:18 (PDT)
Does anyone know what the girls nickname for the two shafts at Dawdon Pit were called?
Essare7
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:52:17 (PDT)
I read in the Guardian UK Newspaper (online) that sex education for five years old children in the UK should be "Compulsory!" Oh! I am sickened! Why are we taking the innocence out of our children? A five years old child is just a little girl or boy, still practically a baby and the educational board in the UK wants to teach 5 yrs old about sex education! Oh my goodness! What are we, as a "liberal" society, doing to our children? Where are the Biblical principles? Why are we not teaching our children to perserve their dignity and body until marriage? Why are we not teaching our children to have respect for themselves, and to realize the importance of how "sacred" intercourse really is. It is a Sacrament of Love between two adults - male and female. Oh, I am just so tired of all this "liberalisim" and "anything goes, so to speak attitude. No wonder our children are messed up! with lack of family values. I heard from a friend the other day, that in Seaham kids are ha! ving babies at age 13,14,15, and so on and so forth. Are parents in Seaham not teaching their children to preserve their dignity and self respect? Of course, it is not just like that in Seaham it is all over the world. People have forgot what the Bible teaches and haev thrown away all morals. What a liberal society we live and how sad!
Jacqueline
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:51:17 (PDT)
"Not Posh" I just simply could not push Christianity onto my dear Jewish friends. I would not want for them to try to convince me that Jesus is not our Savior - when I know very well, without a doubt that he is our Savior. He sits at the right side of God The Father in Heaven and we have eternal life with him after our life is over here on earth. I have never once doubted that, now will I ever. I sure wish my Jewish friends would accept Jesus, but they don't, however, they accept the same "God" as we do. Also, I did not at all hide my faith, I just wanted to be respectful to my friends. Ruth and Avee, know I am a strong Christian, but their friends really do not know me too well and I did not want to appear as being "pushy" with my faith. Some Jewish are afraid of Christians who want to just conform the whole world to Christianity. I speak out very forthright in regards to my faith, it has often got me into trouble, but I am hesitant to push it too much on others. ! I made that mistake and it did not go too far. I would rather bring people to Jesus by making an extra effort to try to follow the example of Mother Teresa. (Let us just say, "Another one of life's lessons learned from an experience that did not go too well.") We cannot always be as "wise" as you, or as "Wise One" some of us are a little naive at times. (regardless of age!)
Jacqueline
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:48:47 (PDT)
INTERESTING SITE IF ONLY PEOPLE WOULD USE IT AS A TOOL TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT SEAHAM. MY QUESTION IS CAN ANYONE TELL ME ALL THE PUBS IN SEAHAM IN THE 50,S PLEASE SEND ME ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN. I WAS IN CANADA FOR 28 YEARS 70 TIL 1998 SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO GET IN TOUCH THEY ARE QUITE WELCOME BOB
BOB THOMPSON <BOB1559@AOL.COM>
SUNDERLAND, TYNE AND WEAR - Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:46:49 (PDT)
"Wise One" what are you up to these days? Skoot me an e-mail....
your Friend
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:45:09 (PDT)
So the Political News is heating up these days. Well.. I am just not sure if I need to show some "humility" here.... and admit, that I am just not sure what I think of President Bush anymore and the War in Iraq. I do agree that we could no longer allow Saddam Hussain to continue to torture and kill his own people with Biological and Chemical weapons; as well as be a threat to the rest of the world. But now I am just not sure I like the idea our troops may have to be over in Iraq for the next 4 years. They are being targeted at practically every day - at the moment. It is costing billions each month for our troops to be there - I would like to know where all this money is coming from?! I am not sure his trip to Africa is going over too well. I think people, at this point in time, I may have been wrong about George Bush - (whoops!)
Jacqueline
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:44:31 (PDT)
I am trying to grt hold of Ed Mason reference the possibility of obtainig a Heritage Centre in Seaham. I have some information you might like to read. Many thanks - Julie
Julie Davis <julie2033@yahoo.com>
Seaham, - Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:42:46 (PDT)
Jacqueline, pleased you've taken up sport by watching the baseball, which reminds me of the following story. There is a 1st grade class. The teacher asks the class, "Who here is a Yankees fan?". Everyone but one little girl raises their hand. The teacher is shocked. "What are you a fan of then?" she asks. "The Red Sox," answers the girl. The teacher, still shocked, asks, "Why are you a Red Sox fan?". The little girl says, "My mom is a Red Sox fan and my dad is a Red Sox fan, so I am a Red Sox fan. So then the teacher asks her, "If your mom were a moron and your dad were a moron, what would YOU be?". She says, "A Yankee fan!".
Wise One
- Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 15:41:11 (PDT)
Mary from USA, The first thing on George Bush's agenda was on TV tonight, he went to see two Elephants mating! honest its true.
Wise One
- Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:50:51 (PDT)
"Wise One" Furthermore, if I am good enough for you to communicate with me via this G/B (which is embarrassing, as the whole world gets to know my business, which makes me realize that "Not Posh" is very wise - everyone does not need to know everyone's business. I am just way too "Naive and Trusting" and forget that the world is not all "Hearts and Flowers.") Anyway, if you consider me a friend to communicate with on this G/B Why is it that you can't e-mail me? No! Wise One" I have decided, I have much more dignity than to just be friends a "secret" all because you are too afraid of what others may say.( you know who I am referring to.) I guess I am just miffed this evening, I did something really sweet, as I did last year, with the "Texas Blue-Bell" flower seeds, and it gets thrown in my face. I have "turned the cheek" One Millions times - and it is hurtful. But there again, What would Jesus do? What would Mother Teresa Do? They both would continue to love and be ! kind. Maybe someday we can be friends without you being too afraid. I hope you get your gift at somepoint.Try to make an effort to do that - thank you. Bye... love always, "Me"
"your friend"
- Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:48:43 (PDT)
Dear Friend, Will try to make it, but I do have probs with my server at that time in the evening, but look forward to trying
Wise One
- Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:47:04 (PDT)
Well Jacqueline, hiding the articles of your faith makes it sounds as though you are ashamed of it, can you say hypocrisy? You have so little respect for your friends that you think that they wish you to deny your own faith? You just finished saying that you don’t conform to others then you decide to insult the intellect of your friends by doing just that. Don’t Christians have a mandate to go out and spread the Word, or is it only adhered to when they are in a similar group?
Not Posh
- Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:46:22 (PDT)
Nice designed and informative page ! greetings, Sue
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Switzerland - Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:45:38 (PDT)
"Not Posh" then you are rather "wise" yourself - I suppose we all ought to learn a valuable lesson from you. I guess I have been rather "naive" and trusting when it comes to the internet - though, that has always been my downfall - too naive and trusting and chitter-chatter about "this and that" dribble at times. But oh well! That is me! I like to think the world is all filled with "hearts and flowers" and everyone kind, gentle and loving... Of course, we all know that is not how the world is - unfortunately. Have a nice day.
Jkm
- Thursday, July 10, 2003 at 15:44:30 (PDT)
Hi....I studied at Grimsby College of Technology from 1981-82. I would like to contact my former tutor, Mr Andrew Gulliver who (at that time) lives at 15 Danesfield Ave, Waltham, Grimsby, Sth Humberside DN37 0PZ. He has 3 daughters - Diana, Joy & Honor and Avril is his wife. Please help...!
Norzailina Nordin <norzailina@yahoo.com>
kuala lumpur, selangor malaysia - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:19:37 (PDT)
Hello.. Well, I wasted $30.00 purchasing Hillary Clinton's Book "Living History." What I should have done was donated the $30.00 to the Church and had Mass said for both Hillary and Bill Clinton. I have decided that as much as I would want to see a woman President for America, I do not wnat to see Hillary Clinton be President in 2008. She is all for bringing in the One World Government, which from a global business perspective, is fine, but morally and from a Christian (and Jewish perspective) it is not good at all. Though, I do not believe this One World Government may come about as we all have to remember that ultimately, GOD IS IN CONTROL! :) I think I do fine just sticking my my own convictions and not ever trying to conform to others just because society says so! I am fine being a reserved/conservative Roman Catholic and I am happy about it too and with myself for who I am. Okay everyone, who is Politically Conservative, please don't waste $30.00 on purchasing! Hillary Clinton's book, "Living History" use the money to give to charity or to purchase a Christian book. Have a super day everyone!
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:17:11 (PDT)
: I have just came back from spending Friday afternoon until just three hours ago in a very strict Orthdox Jewish Community, in Baltimore, Maryland. I visited my dear friends of whom I met in Germany 13 years ago - we stayed in touch all these years. My visit was beautiful! As always my friends put on an incredibly delicious Shabbot Meal (Sabbath) with such grace and reverance for Hasham (God.) I attended with my friends Shoal (Synagague)As always we had some really neat discussions on the similarities of our Religions as well as our conservative/reserved ways of thinking and of raising children all due to the closeness we each have toward our own faiths. (She Jewish, myself Roman Catholic) I want to share with you that out of respect for my friends and their community in which they live, before I went to visit them, I knew that I was going to be going with the family to the Syngague, as well as to the BaseBall game with their Synagague group. Therefore, as I was alr! eady aware of their custom of how they dress, I did not want to draw attention to myself, if I had decided to wear the usual shorts and t-shirt (summer clothing) to the baseball game, which was indeed in 98 Degree weather! I had asked my friend what would be the appropriate clothing to not only wear at the Baseball game, also the whole weekend, as their Sabbath is from Friday sunset, until Saturday sunset. She explained to me that they dress very reserved, married ladies cover their hair, they wear skirts or dressed almost down to their ankles and always wear stockings. They wear blouses or tops that always come to the elbow, if not, covering the whole arm. Out of respect, I made sure the whole weekend I dressed in a similar manner, except I did not wear the stockings - it was just too hot! I was also careful about not drawing too much attention to my necklace of my cross, and our Blessed Mother, and of Saint Joseph and Saint Benedict. I made sure it was undearneath my blou! se, especially at "Shoal" where I would be around Jewish people whom t he cross signifies some hard feelings for some Jews. I wanted to share this whith you, only because I now remember at the beginning of the Iraq War, or there abouts there was an American service woman, who made such a fuss about the fact that she had to cover herself whilst she was in Saudi Arabia, as it is not their custom for woment o be revealing themselves. I did not have to dress in a similar manner to my Jewish friends this weekend, as first we are in American, and second, I am Christian and it is not my custom to dress in their manner. However, I did, out of RESPECT for my friends and for their Religion as Jews. Additionally, (important to share)it is also their custom for Jewish men never to shake the hand of a woman if she is not their wife, or wife to be. This is not out of disrespect to women, this is indeed the oppoiste, they have so much respect for women, that not shaking hands with a woman, especially, an attractive woman, does not cause the "eye" of a man to ! sin. (What you don't shake hands with, it is not easy to sleep with her.) This is also the case in the Islamic faith; which is why Islamic men do not shake hands with women other than their own wife or wife to be. Though, it is questionable if men of the Islamic faith have the same level and degree of respect and love for their women as the orthodox Jewish men have for their women. My friend and I discussed that it is also NOT possible for parents of the two faiths to raise their children both ways, as it confuses the children. And indeed it does! The Jews do not accept Jesus, or the Virgin Birth, Christians do accept Jesus and the Virgin Birth, that is the whole basis we separated from Judiasiam. There were many discussion we had, from our faiths, to why it is that Jews are persecuted and that is for another posting tomorrow evening, as I am rather tired this evening.(Excuse the spelling, very tired!)
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:15:05 (PDT)
Hello. I went to Seaham Comprehensive. I still have family in Seaham. My parents were Pat and Sally Foley. I am related to Stuart and Carole Brown and Keith and Jenny Corner. If anyone would like to contact me that would be lovely. littlebearenterprises@hotmail.com
Sarah Johnson (nee Foley) <littlebearenterprises@hotmail.com>
Broadstairs, Kent UK - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:11:29 (PDT)
hello. i am looking to move to the seaham area now i have finally graduated and wondered if anyone knows how i can find a good 3 bedroomed property to rent until i buy? thanks.
julie thoburn <jules4444@hotmail.com>
keighley, england - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:10:01 (PDT)
Imwould like to know about the book that published about the mather mine explosion in 1928. My grandfather was killed in that explosion. any and all information will be appreciated thank you
Walter Shoenberger III <LTCUSA81353@aol.com>
Shippingport, Pa Usa - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:08:30 (PDT)
Oh Dear! Whatever can we do to relieve the plight of the Ozzies and all those expats who now support them? First we whop them at Rugby and now Wor Leyton is given the order of the boot at Wimbleton. We should send a full crate of Tissues at once. Australia is flooded with tears because 'Our Leyton' got rolled first up. I might need just one packet to wipe my tears away - tears of delight. One things for sure! They (the Ozzies) have yet to learn how to lose gracefully.
Wise One
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:07:05 (PDT)
Wise One, you have lived up to your name.I've taken an internet class which outlined the do's and don'ts of the net. It is a must for any internet user, especially if there are children in the home.Everyone leaves traces behind as they go surfing, also robots scan the web every day to harvest information.Use the Boy Scout's motto!
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:06:12 (PDT)
MY Friend" Don't forget this Friday - lets try to visit.
Your Friend
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:05:28 (PDT)
greetings from germany ! very nice website ! best wishes, Pete
webkatalog <peter@wiesnerts.de>
no, no germany - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:04:53 (PDT)
My brother Robert Henry, along with his wife Brenda, moved to Salisbury almost 40 years ago. My Wife and I visited last year and enjoyed our stay. We will be going back soon we hope. Your site is very infomative, thank you.
Michael Joseph Griffen <mbgriffin16@hotmail.c0m>
Jarrow, Tyne and Wear England - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:03:26 (PDT)
"Wise One" Hi there, how are you? I hope you are well. Well, as I get tired of reading your "rantings" over Rugby! I think I will share with you about the BaseBall game I went to this past Sunday afternoon (June 29th) The Baltimore Oriols (State of Maryland)were playing the Philidelphia Philies (State of Pennsylvania)The game was Awesome! The weather was nice and hot! of 98 degrees! (Good ol' Texas weather - Yes!) Anyway, as Pennsylvania was the first state I lived in, I was rooting for the "Philidelphia Philies" and you will never guess what? They won! Yes!!!! The score was 4-3. I was a happy little camper! I also had my unhealthy greasy Hot-Dog, which is the only time I ever eat one of those things, when I am at Baseball games or at other sport games, otherwise, those hotdog things are nothing but "Yuko" garbage! Anyway, wanted to share with you the score of Baseball, as you love to share with us the scores of Rugby. Oki-doki everyone... have a super day! And Smi! le! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 17:01:16 (PDT)
Who wants to discuss George Bush's visit to Africa? What is his adgenda? IS it a genuine sincere visit, or is there a hidden adgenda?
Mary
USA - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:59:56 (PDT)
I was born in Seaham and my parents (Jean and David Lanaghan) and grandfather (Arthur Galilee) are still living there. It's great to be able to feel I still have links with Seaham through your guestbook. Even though I've lived in Melbourne for 29 years, I still treasure my formative years growing up in the North East. I have been back to Seaham on occasional visits, and must say that each time I return, I see a great improvement, especially along the sea front area. I'm also planning to return in 2004 for a holiday again.
Pauline Waters <watersclan@austarmetro.com.au>
Glen Waverley, Victoria Australia - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:58:22 (PDT)
Seaham is mint there needs to be a more nightlife
James O'Connor
Seaham, Durham England - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:56:18 (PDT)
oops....i don't think i've got the hang of this yet! Help!!!!!
Dee
Seaham, Durham England - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:54:38 (PDT)
It seems to me that this site is only for certain individuals i.e. Markie etc. I have submitted various comments and they have still not been shown. They were not rude or abusive. Come on Mr. Mason stop been so choosy.
I have given up
London, - Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:47:51 (PDT)
David. John probably married Elizabeth Charlton September Quarter 1898 Easington District. You may know which religion , thus deciding which church in Seaham Harbour.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:46:36 (PDT)
David. John 22 b 1879 Margate. Elizabeth 21 b1880 Ruddymoor Durham.Catherine 1 b 1900 Seaham Harbour.Emma 3mths b1901 Shotton. Census place Thornley. 1881 CENSUS. Will give you family of John, maiden name of Elizabeth a little harder, however,Ruddymoor is an unusual name, so just put in Elizabeth, no surname, hope that Ruddymoor shows up. I hope that this is helpful to you
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:46:01 (PDT)
Attention David. It is Catherine Dadd, born June quarter 1899, Easington Registration District.Would you like me to find her parents,siblings if any? I don't mind giving it a whirl.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:45:16 (PDT)
Deb, I'm not Lee. I'm interested in Seaham, as my ancestors are from the area. I didn't attend school in Seaham.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:44:35 (PDT)
David go to the Free BMD, type in the name your are searching, use Easington as the location as it was the registration district for the date you are interested in. Check the 1881,at the LDS ,1901 census' which are both on line,use the census tool for the 1901.Whistle if you need any help.
Not Posh
- Wednesday, July 09, 2003 at 16:43:25 (PDT)
PLEASE NOTE: The Seaham Harbour Online Guestbook will NOT be updated during the period 24th June to 9th July 2003. This is due to essential update and site maintainance work. HOWEVER anything submitted during this period will be added to the Guestbook as soon as possible afterwards. We are sorry for this inconvenience and look forward to reading your submissions after the 9th July.
Ed Mason - Seaham Harbour Online <mace@daltonet.com>
Seaham, Co.Durham UK - Monday, June 23, 2003 at 17:16:41 (PDT)
Excellent site ! I am fascinated by all things Seaham having attended Northlea School 1967-1972 . However I am also researching my family tree and need some information as follows ; Firstly, my Dad ,George HASTINGS ,played for Dawdon around about 1960. Has anyone a photograph of the Dawdon team ( Wearside League ) from that period ? Secondly can anyone recall anybody by the name of HASTINGS living in Seaham . There is a branch of the family we have lost and Seaham has cropped up . Any help would be greatly appreciated .
Brian Hastings <whitburnwarrior@ol.com>
Whitburn, Tyne & Wear UK - Monday, June 23, 2003 at 17:07:50 (PDT)
Hi. What a lovely site. I was wondering if anyone in Seaham could tell me how to look up birth records for Seaham. I'm told that my maternal grandmother, Katherine (or Catherine) Dadd was born there, probably around 1900. Thanks for any pointers. /DDD
David Davis <stagh0rn@yahoo.com>
Chelmsford, Mass USA - Monday, June 23, 2003 at 16:05:22 (PDT)
Oh Deborah, we were at Northlea School from the fall of 1982 until the summer (which is July in England given the weather) of 1985. Prior to that we were at SMS school from the fall of 1980 to the summer of 1982. I have an amazing memory for dates, times and also for quoting people.
Jacqueline
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 16:03:51 (PDT)
Deborah, that is okay, I know you have always called me "Jackie" and never called me "Jacqueline." You ought to feel honored that you are the only one I allow to call me "Jackie." If I do refer to myself as "Jackie" I spell it the French way.. "Jacquie." ................. Anyway, school days! Cookery with Mrs. Kenworthy and baking those Bloody "Victoria" Sandwich cakes. Remember when Trudie James ate a whole raw egg? Then was sick afterwards! Math with Mrs. Carney. My "cat-fight" with Anne Marie Swan (I think I had a few with her.) Yes, I remember that guy with the long hair, but can't think of his name off hand. I remember Assemblies when I was always chosen to read and then I was made fun of afterwards for speaking "Posh!" (There is that word again!) Oh, Debs, whatever happened to Jean Pybuss? Do you ever hear from her, as well as Lesley Knight, Lorna Baker, Julie Robinson and Gwen Oliver. I told you that I keep in touch with Kimberely Dobson via e-mail she keeps! in touch with Dianne Ogden. Remember little Bobby Mather? What is he doing now and Deborah, hope you don't mind, but whatever happened to your "high-school" "crush" guy - "Neil Miliam?" Oh, I know, do you ever still keep in touch with Deborah Henderson - what is she doing? And you have got to remember the girl who, when we would ask her the time, she would say she did not have her watch on, and then, she would draw a watch on her hand, and tell us the time. (I remember her name, but do not ever wish to embarrass her of our school days, as I am not a one to talk. I was a Royal Pain in the Bottom!)I remember all those "tangerines" and "Bananna's" I use to always bring to school to eat at break times, whilst you guys were buying chips (crisps) at the tuck shop. I would always be feeding my face with hords of tangerines. Oh, would'not you know it, up until about five years ago, I still use to eat baked beans and eggs for breakfast! I still love to eat - But I now watch my weig! ht. I now eat all Organic foods, work out and just watch what I eat.I guess I am afraid of "aging." Anyway, Deborah, I skooted you an e-mail, so that we can arrange a time to speak with each other via telephone. It is cheaper for me to call you. Hope to talk to you soon. Have a Super day tomorrow.
Jacqueline
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 16:03:08 (PDT)
Dear Not Posh, you wouldnt by any chance happen to be Lee would you?? Very intreeged to know??
debs <debmac1@btopenworld.com>
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 16:00:49 (PDT)
Tom Morland, You have missed completely the point made by "Not Posh" This is an "open guestbook" and there are a lot of People out there, who spend all day surfing the net looking for email addresses and relating data, which they sell on, leading to spam and more spam, I think most people who've put their emails online in one shape or form, now realise this. So my advice is simple, Adults and in particular Children should refrain from doing so.
Wise One
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:59:59 (PDT)
I wonder if any of our old school teachers read this "goofy" Guest Book - Bloody Hell, I can just hear them say, "There goes that Jacqueline Markie running her mouth off again and getting herself into issues." Deborah, you said in one of your last messages that I will always be the same "Jackie" you once knew......... Well.... I am not so sure about that. Yes, I am still "goofy" and you should see me when I have just two glasses of wine! I am just a "goof-ball!" But, I am really not "Jackie" you once knew - I just can't be! Not 17 years later. I need to come home for 2005 so we can have our 20th High School Reunion. It sure would be fun!
Jacqueline
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:58:42 (PDT)
Markie.... why oh why do you subject us to your boring, pious, inconsequential ramblings day after day after day. I have no doubt you are the paragon of virtue, the nicest of the nice, an angel even, but please stop boring us with your "Alistair Cooke" from America. My family and I own a house in America, I have lived in America, I love America, but I do not regale ad nauseam about it's minutest detail. Look Markie...you're a good sort... anyone who has read this guest book more that once can tell that... just don't go for overkill....you're making yourself look silly, and convincing Seaham folk all over the world to not contribute. There now... enough said about that.
Pete Zahutt <pz@aol.com>
Berlin, Deutschland - Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:57:41 (PDT)
"They next play the All Blacks in Wellington on 14th June this year,but the AB's will field a full-strength team, and will bury England. World Cup to England? Dream on sunshine, you are playing in Australia! etc" These are the words of an expat printed earlier in the guestbook! wonder what they're thinking now? slumber on down-under boys.
Wise One
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:55:51 (PDT)
Tom I think that the surprise is yours, it is a guest book, however, it is being used as a chat board. You may not have noticed that the guests have changed its purpose. Tom you are using it as a chat board. You don’t leave a message but have a conversation. Joan it was on BBC News last week, and in numerous newspapers, which I read on Drudge. The reason that I mentioned it was to make a point; none of us know who is reading, posting to guest books and chat boards. Perhaps a google search will bring up the article. It wasn’t a secret. Jacqueline you have no idea who I am, we have never met, and probably never will. I never went to anything called a High School. Tom you are taking your hat off to me, I'm involved in many after work, community services. Most people just don't feel the need to mention it to others, thus it is impossible for others to know... Many people go about volunteer work quietly, without fanfare, and with no expectation of reward or praise. It is done in community spirit.
Not Posh
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:53:48 (PDT)
Oh.. Deborah, one thing that may not have changed about me is that I was a "target" in school for being made fun of (picked at) and it seems that I just can't get away from that over there in Seaham on this Guest-Book - I am still bloody well picked at! Though, at least now I can smile about most of the the things y'all say about me. I can smile at my short-comings as we all have them! None of us are perfect. I am for one, am NOT and never profess to be perfect. Though, unlike school days, when I was a little "minnie timid mouse" Now I speak my mind. I also now enjoy African Art, and African Music, as Well as Celtic Music,and Bluegrass music. I love Tennessee (to visit, not to live.) And love the Civil War history. Religion and Politics, well, that is a given! In Texas I was a member of the Republican Women's Association.I will most likely get involved in something like that in New York, though after reading Hilary Clinton's book, "Living History" I may turn Democr! at - I think she would make an incredible American President. Though, I disagree with her pro-choice stand and some of her other liberals ways, otherwise, I think she ought to run for President in 2008. Though I am fond of George W. Bush, I am thinking that Richard Gephard may have a good chance of winning against Bush. I was an attended at Richard Gephard's fundraising last summer in Austin. It was interesting. Anyway... I have got to get going, it is 7.15pm and I am on my way into the city to the Irish pub there is a band playing. Yes, Deborah, I am very much into my Irish part of my blood heritage. I am thinking this fall, I am going to take Irish dancing class - hey, that is an excellent way to keep in shape! Okay, talk to you all later.
Jacqueline
- Monday, June 23, 2003 at 15:52:26 (PDT)
Dear Not Posh. It may come as a surprise to you but this is a guest room, and not a chat room. People who visit here hope to know whom they are taking to in the first instance. If you are not confident enough in yourself to admit who you are then you should read, but not submit an article. The things you state make good sense on the WWW but are irrelevant on these pages. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
LOndon, - Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:07:26 (PDT)
Hello again to everyone out there. Just wondering if anyone else out there remembers the years at Northlea School from 1983-1986. Was the best ever. We had such a laugh!!!Can u remember any of the teachers??? Some of them are teaching there still and I often chat to them and they also remember how daft we once were. Yes thanks for reminding me Jackie about Mr MacNeeney, we certanly had a few laughs in his class, Im actually laughtng myself stupid at this moment thinking about it. Can u remember when that boy with the long blond hair(I cant remember his name at the moment) well he pinched a rat from the freezer in Chemistry and he ATE it!Mr Cousins was all in a fuss and didnt know what to do. He is still around and I still see him at school and he often goes out in Sunderland. Miss Ord is still teaching she is so cool i really think shes the tops. Theres loads of them still left which doesnt make us feel so old, not just yet anyway!Hello Wise One also. I now! know who U are. I see Paul Morris sometimes writes in but doesnt say much.Anyway if anyone out there remembers the good times from school write in and lets have a good laugh and re-live our youth! Take care everyine, Debs.Ps I know you like being called your full name Jackie but Iv never called you by it so dont be offended by me calling you Jacks. Take Care love Debs
debs <debmac1@btopenworld.com>
seaham, durham england - Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:06:14 (PDT)
I hear from Miss Markie that you have to be good at litrature to appear on this page or Miss Manners will be 'ON MY CASE' SorryMiss Manners if I have mis-spelled anything out of order. Personally I dont think you are to bad (ONLY IN JACKIES CASE) and she hates me calling her that! Sorry Jacks,Must have had one glass of wine too many when I was writing,thats my excuse anyway. My O Levels,A Levels and Degree dont stand a chance when Iv had a drink and it was a Saturday night,so Iv got a good excuse!Come on everyone out there bring some new News to this website were all dying for some new faces!!!!!
debs <debmac1@btopenworld.com>
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:04:07 (PDT)
England/Australia - 'nuff said!
Not Thomas Johnson
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:02:54 (PDT)
"Tom Morland" The times on the computers must be messed up. Because I did wait for my "friend" until my computer time and my watch timeid!
Not Thomas Johnson
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:02:54 (PDT)
"Tom Morland" The times on the computers must be messed up. Because I did wait for my "friend" until my computer time and my watch time said 5.50pm Friday afternoon.(10.50pm UK time.) Then, I immediately posted him a message. So I don't know what the deal is.
a friend of a friend
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:02:22 (PDT)
To everyone on this Guest-book. I am taking a break from it for a few weeks. It is getting out of hand. No-one should ever have to feel the need to justify his/her work or have to feel the need to defend themeselves to the point of explaining their lives. "Not Posh" there is not at all a case of "Sybil Syndrome" (I have my suspicions of who you are and you are very cunning.) Are we all still in High School? It seems "Not Posh" is someone rather cunning, "Miss Manners" gives everyone a hard time. "Wise One" and "Tom Morland" get into silly disagreements. Others on the G/B are sick and tired of all of us "bickering!" And I for one, am tired of being a "target" by a few people, particularly "someone" ... This is the summer and a time for a break for all. .................. Have a great summer everyone.
Jacqueline
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:01:33 (PDT)
So "Not Posh" I assume you have connections to know the police recently used friends Reunited to track down some people of a particular school. Interesting that you would bring up that subject.
Joan also Canada
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 16:00:16 (PDT)
Im a Celtic supporter Wise One.
Scotland Forever
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 15:59:21 (PDT)
Tom Moreland, Why don't you ask your Grandson to explain it to you, I say this without malice and without wishing to cause you any offence whatsoever, and Tom when People "discuss" my ID, I never confirm, or deny anything!
Wise One
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 15:58:42 (PDT)
"Thanks Wise one I can be on the chat line after 5.00pm Canada time,9.00pm Seaham Harbour time.This is regarding the Berry family in Seaham Harbour. Denis Berry" Denis can usually make it most Mondays & 9-00pm UK time
Wise One
- Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 15:58:03 (PDT)
Dear ‘Wise One’, touché. Any person, who works with children teaching them to be self-sufficient and how to be good citizens, has my fullest respect. My two boys attended scouts but I never helped out in any way. My only feeble excuse is that, I was too tired after a hard days work. It never crossed my mind that, other people were looking after my boys after ‘their’ hard days’ work! Well done, and keep up the good work; I take my hat of to you, and all others who give up their free time for the good of the community. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Sunday, June 22, 2003 at 15:57:20 (PDT)
I hate being picky but could someone explain how you can wait for someone till 10.50pm (22.50hrs), then post a note on the guest book at 5.04pm (17.04hrs). Also how can your server be down till 10.50pm (22.50hrs), yet you still manage to post a note on the guest book at 5.07pm (17.07hrs). Someone has either dropped a clanger, or I am being to fussy. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:31:46 (PDT)
I hate being picky but could someone explain how you can wait for someone till 10.50pm (22.50hrs), then post a note on the guest book at 5.04pm (17.04hrs). Also how can your server be down till 10.50pm (22.50hrs), yet you still manage to post a note on the guest book at 5.07pm (17.07hrs). Someone has either dropped a clanger, or I am being to fussy. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:31:41 (PDT)
John Alfred Spencer The first rule of the internet is NOT to give out your real name and email addy on a board that is used for chatting.Only the web master should have access to such information. It is very easy to track somebody on line if such information is given. It is just a matter of googling, to come up with snail mail addy, address, telephone #'s etc. This is a very important message to give to children, indeed many sites will only accept a child's information if it is verified as being allowed by the parents or guardians. Not using your real name isn't a question of hiding behind a mask, but a device used for self protection. If you really want me to have a name you may call me Tommie, or Billy, or Betty, or Susie,or whatever. Many people may give a name, in order that others may "talk" to them but it is rarely their real name.The police recently used friends Reunited to track down people of a particular school. The internet can be a warm and fuzzy plac! e but is just as likely to be cold and prickly.
Not Posh
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:30:32 (PDT)
Deborah.. well done! I am glad another person is speaking up about my "taking over" this guest-book. It was never my intend to "take over" this guest-book, but for whatever reason, everyone jumps on me, and meks direct comment to me, and about me.. therefore, I respond back and it just goes one from there... So please, evryone Listen to Deborah and others, and just leave me alone! Thank you.
peaceful quiet Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:29:13 (PDT)
Miss Manners, you say that you can "give it and take it" but your letter is a complete contradiction of what you state, yes you can give it (a wee bit) but TAKE IT ? no way! When did you ever apologise for your being perpetually in the wrong? You have, it seems an acid tongue, perhaps you should see a "shrink" (can't spell physcologist) I'd love to "listen in" whilst you're on the couch though!
Wise One
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:28:21 (PDT)
Observer, I am sure that Jacqueline is a wonderful Nanny and Nanny's do teach Children many things prior to their Schoolyears, including good behavior and helping them prepare for the wonderful life awaiting them, so is a Nanny a Teacher? I would say so.
Wise One
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:27:39 (PDT)
"Phil E Buster" I am not sure if God could not find a Virgin in Seaham - I know some are there - ther had better be as there are girls under the age of 18 years old. Anyway, I did not know there was a "Garmish" in Switzerland. There is a "Gstaad" in Switzerland and a "Garmish" in Germany - I know that because I have been to both countries and spent four years in Germany.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:26:46 (PDT)
Wow! What a great result by our Rugby Lads beating the Australians on their own patch at last after 10 previous defeats, the result? 25-14 to England. I'm sure that those expats in Oz and NZ who now support, it seems the Ozzies and AllBlacks, will have already beat me to the Punch and have their congratulations on this Guestbook before I have? THe Lads were magnificent in victory as the Ozzies were in defeat, lets thank both sides for a great game, played in a truly competative way.
Wise One
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:25:40 (PDT)
I look in from time to time to pick up news of Seaham people near and far, old and young,and interesting. Instead I find the GB crammed full of the contributions of about five people who have spoilt it for everyone else. No wonder there are no new contributions these days. I suppose they are all like me, bored with it for another three or four months. Interestingly, they cannot seem to differentiate between a GB, Chat Room or Forum or even private e-mail. Imagine being someone who hogs the mike, talks longer or louder.
Passant Regardant
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:24:58 (PDT)
Jackie. Thank you so much for your e-mails. I am finding it really hard to contact you. Iv tried E-mailing you dozens of times and cant seem to get throuhj to you. I think my network provider is not compattible with yours. PLEASE PLEASE dont think i was critecising you. Jackie I am very fond of you and have the most great asmiration for you. Believe me I COULDNT have done what you have done. You have acchieved more than any one us us who were friends together. Its just that I have been a regular reader of the guestbook for some time now and i feel you sometimes let people take advantage of you. You dont have to defend yourself to them Jackie, you are Jackie and you will never change. U were a great freind to me. Can u remember when your shoe fell apart in the geography corridor and Mr. Cambell came chasing you?Its things like that u remember forever. Anyway I will keep this short as were on the guestbook so send me an e-mail with your telephone number o! n it and I will call u this week!I do hope we can get this e-mail mess sorted out as I have loads and loads o tell u. I will ALWAYS be your friend Jack and hope u keep giving all those readers who think you are just someone to AMMUSE them a run for there money. Take care anf God Bless your friend always DEBBIE
deborah turnbull <debmac1@btopenworld.com>
seaham, durham england - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:23:42 (PDT)
Here is a story:(I heard it in Church at morning Mass this past week and would like to share it with you.) There was a family who had only one child, the child's parents were gentle, kind loving parents and practicing Christians. When the child reached 18 years old, given that he was the only child, he thought for his 18th Birthday his parents would have bought him a brand new car.(That was his expectations.) In anticipation for his Birthday gift, he agreed to apease his parents and went out to dinner with them. When they arrived home, his father handed him a Bible. The son was furious! As he thought it was an insult, so he threw the Bible across the room and stormed out of the house. He did not speak again to his father, as his father died several years later. When the son was going through his father's belonings, he came across the Bible which his father had given him for his 18th Birthday, when he opened it up, inside he found a check his father had written, dat! ed on the son's 18th Birthday, for the ammount it would cost for the brand new car the son had expected to have on his 18th Birthday .................. The moral of this story is that we should never put $$$ "Money" or "Materialistic Posessions" as our top priorities in life. God always gives us what we need, when we need it. We should not allow money or materialism to either run our lives, or to ruin our relationship with others, especially not with our parents and other family members. This story also illustrates, how children can become so dependant and in demand of automatically be given $$$ money and posessions from their parents, even when they are grown adults. Parents, teach your children well.... teach them to value and appreciate life and God more than money and posessions. Have a very beautiful day everyone... your Guest-book friend... Miss Jacqueline.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:21:34 (PDT)
Scotland forever, are you Celtic or Rangers Man?
Wise One
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:19:35 (PDT)
I hope this is printed.. I apologize to everyone that I have caused such a "ruckus!" and appeared to have "taken over" this Guest Book - that was never my intend! People were responding to me, therefore, I responded back and it just "took off" from there. I do not enjoy all of this attention. I am a woman of much dignity 99% of my time and extremely "proper" If you got to know me, I am really not this "disty air-head." I am very kind and self-giving. I would give to anyone who needed help, my last penny. I am a woman who gives rides to homeless people and just trust in God that I will be safe. I have a very compassionate heart - I think things on this Guest-book have just been "Blown out of Proportion" as far as the perception you all have of me. Anyway...Okay people... enough already with pounding all over me, Jacqueline. Despite my faults and short-comings, and I have many (as we all do) I at least have the courage and integrity to print my "Real" name on this Gu! est-Book. I get hell for some of my comments, but at least you all know the comments are from me. As far as my work goes, I should not have to justify to any "one" person what it is I do for a living; but I will so to put you all straight on this matter, as many of you are coming down far too harsh on me and for what? ..... I did indeed attend American University, trained for a Teaching Degree at college with James. T. Fowler Knight. He is American - I have no idea why he is spelling the British way, when he is an American through and through - just talk to him regarding the Civil War! His famous words at College were "And the South shall rise again!" Don't get him started regarding the South surrendering and the North defeating the South. he will chop off your head! I have worked as a Nanny/Governess, as well as a lot of my work has been within the Church Social Work/Humanitiarian work. I have worked with Mother Teresa's Order, back in Dallas, (Voluntary) I have worked as ! a Counselor at the Women's Crisis Center in Chicago, as well as at the Homeless shelters and the children's home. I am a member of the "Daughter's Of the British Empire" (We do Charitable work)I am also a member of the "JAYCEES" another fund raising organization. I am very pro-active, when I am able, with advocating for Human Rights. I also have taught Sunday School, Catholic CCD as well as Taught in the Department of Defense School in Giessen, Germany as a "teacher's aid." In addition to doing some teaching in the school in PA and in VA. I have also done a considerable amount of youth Ministry work with both privileged and under privileged children. I am currently in Washington DC doing work within an Organized Ministry. In the fall I will take a position in New York and also work with ATD Fourth World Humanitiarian Organization. It was started in 1957 in France, by a Catholic Priest. It is a world known organization and works very closely to UNICEF. Within the next year, I will make one of the biggest decisions of my life in a very long time! , (If marriage has not fallen around me) and decide to go to the "Third World" countries and continue full time with Humanitarian work. That is my "calling" and what I mostly enjoy doing - so much! As far as some of the people writing on my behalf - they are for real. The retired Officer, is a retired Colonel, so is her husband. She is originally from South Africa and therefore, still speaks with very much a British/South African accent. My Haywood, is an American, and I work with him in my Ministry group. The guy from Seaham, who wrote on my behalf, I have no idea who he is. And the guy "Peter" from Pennsylvania, is a friend of mine from the University library where I worked while attending classes. People, I have not mis-represented myself at all. I am for "real" - I just "Waffle" a bit on this Guest-Book." It just means as yet, at 34 years old, I do not have a life after work! It means I need to find a husband to keep me pre-occupied! But as I am choosy, I am finding th! at I limit myself. Finding a goodf, Holy, Catholic Gentleman, who is P olitical, Compassionate, Loyal, who has never been divorced, who is adventerous, fun, who has traveled and who is just a most beautiful Holy Man, is not easy to come by these days... So I just fill my time with other things. Please, just take me with a "grain of salt"... Also, "Miss Manners" thank you for recognizing that I do "Apologize" when I have made a mistake - I appreciate very much that you acknowlege my apology. Have a Super Day every one! God Bless and Smile! :) :) :) We all have so many things to be thankful for. Your "Guest-Book" friend... Miss Jacqueline Markie.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:18:56 (PDT)
Oh my Gosh! Deborah Macdonald! How are you? It is so good to hear from you. What a "hoot" this Guest Book is! I am still causing "waffles" of issues as I did back in school with my ranting mouth! I still laugh about the time my heel fell off my boot and I was hobbling down the school hallway... Remember in English class with Mr. MacNeeny - playing his guitar to the Irish jig and you and I were practically having a "cat fight" with each other - He was off in la-la land! That was a great English class - though Richard Whitmore use to always nag me for my "words" and ask me if I had eaten the Dictionary for breakfast. Yes, I did use to just use long words just to bug people. Remember "Rattle Ribs" and "Jelly Wobbles" what a hoot they were! Oh, I still laugh at our math class with Mr. Cousins...Wow! what a trip down memory lane.Anyway, I will send to you an e-mail and we can "catch up!" I am so glad to hear from you. Hopefully, soon Deborah, I will have a life after wo! rk and I will not be busy on this Guest book. I am moving to new York in the fall! and next month going to either Texas or Florida for a week or so vacation. Oh and Deborah.. hate to say this... but I have never liked been called "Jackie" my name is Jacqueline. Thanks!PS: watch your spelling as "Miss Manners" will be on your case.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:14:47 (PDT)
"Scotland Forever" Oh, when my natural father was alive, he was adament to my parents in Seaham that I was not English, but Scottish! My father was a true Scotsman thru and thru! I was born in Dunfermline and have relatives scattered around several places in Scotland. The Scottish people are very friendly and Scotland is so beautiful! With a "mystery" to it. I loved traveling Scotland, going to the "Hills of Glencoe" Crieve, The locks, and up to the Orkney Islands, as well as to Falkirk, Aberdeen and Dundee. I love Scotland.
Jacqueline
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:13:09 (PDT)
"Tom Morland" "Wise One" does work at the Boy Scouts. I think he just rants like the rest of us do on this Guest Book - I mean, look at the "hell" I get for ranting.... It has got to the point where I am the only one on this Guest Book who basically reveals my real name, and now has told the whole world my work for crying out loud! The Guest-Book got so "testy" lately, I felt I needed to speak up for myself and I will! While I very much try very hard to always stay dignified, and gentle and a lady, I am not a doormat, or a scared little mouse! I speak my mind and always will! So there!!! well... just have a nice evening!
Me
- Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:12:15 (PDT)
Thanks Wise one I can be on the chat line after 5.00pm Canada time,9.00pm Seaham Harbour time.This is regarding the Berry family in Seaham Harbour. Denis Berry
Denis Berry <berryd@nbnet.nb.ca>
Miramichi, New Brunswick Canada - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:11:15 (PDT)
wise One what raised points did I not respond to
Miss Manners
Canada - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:09:32 (PDT)
My Friend, could not get onto chatpage until 10-50pm due, once agai11:15 (PDT)
wise One what raised points did I not respond to
Miss Manners
Canada - Saturday, June 21, 2003 at 16:09:32 (PDT)
My Friend, could not get onto chatpage until 10-50pm due, once again to faulty server
Your Friend
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:07:14 (PDT)
Jacqueline does NOT mispresent herself. She has worked as a nanny, which everyone who knows her is well aware of that. She has also been actively involved for well over ten years in various religious and social work, advocating Human Rights.She would make an excellent missionary worker and everyone here who knows her, knows that to be true. Please, would the people of this Guest-Book get off Miss Markie's case. I have known her since her arrival to USA 12 years ago she is an amazing woman. I for one, have no idea why she is not married as yet, as she is not only very attractive, slender, with a radiant smile,and all kinds of interests. She has a great personality and is friendly to everyone she meets. I do agree with the people of the Guest-Book that Miss Markie is too outspoken for her own good; but even she would agree with that. Let this Guest-book move on to other topics, and leave my friend Jacqueline alone - at least for a little while. Thanks. Peter.
Peter
Pennsylvania, USA - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:06:34 (PDT)
: "My friend" I waited for you, until 10.50pm this evening.. Was your server not working or maybe it was that you were busy. Next Friday I will be gone for the weekend. Can we get together another day and time? Please let me know.
friend
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:04:59 (PDT)
as a regular reader of this page i find that Miss Markie has taken over.I knew Jackie from school and knew her very well. Too well i imagine from what has been wrote in the guestbook!!!Thanks for the Christmas cards and Easter cards, me and my Mum recieve a letter and card from her every year!!!Anyway as a friend to u Jackie stop making enemies. U are a nice parson when your head doesnt run away with you. U have made it inlfe now so stop TRYING to IMPRESS. Have a little faith in yourself as you try and teach others to do so. Sometimes i think you egxagirate about the life u have or want and it gets in the way of you being Jackie. Come on Jackie I have known u since you were 12.!!!!!Anyway would love u to e-mail me with all the gossip, take care love Debbie
debbie turnbull <debmac1@btopenworld.com>
seaham, durham england - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:04:23 (PDT)
Go on then Jacqueline,I would be fascinated to hear your views on my fellow Scottish race.What is it about us?That so many in the NE,nay the world,find so fascinating,and intensely friendly about us?just what is it?Quote"Wha's like us?damn few,and their aw deid".(Rabbie Burns)
Scotland Forever
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:02:38 (PDT)
There seems to be a bit of confusion about the fact that Jacqueline works as a nanny. I don't think that any of us look down on nannys. It's just that Jacqueline has described herself as a humanitarian aid worker in the past. She has also described herself as a teacher. I wonder what frame of mind would casue someone to describe themselves as a teacher when they're a nanny?
Observer
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:01:45 (PDT)
Yes Miss Manners, I agree you "joined the human race" the day you were born, but you left it some time after that! remember its never too late to repent of your ways, and you should refrain from repeating yourself with phrases like "oral D" you must admit, however you've had a right roasting on the Guestbook these last few days (most of the points raised you've decided to ignore as you can't answer them) so I won't add to your obvious discomfort! So I'll repeat myself just this once and I hate saying it "have a nice day Miss Manners"
Wise One
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:01:00 (PDT)
Wise One you are a fool. First you make comments about me being rude and I should quit insulting your dear friend. You say I should show a little restraint and even humility .Then you turn around and try to bully and insult me.Well I think you should take a good long look at your own remarks. Not only the ones addressed to me but other's on this guestbook.Markie brags about how she gets into trouble for speaking her mind but she will always be like that .Well I am almost the same .One thing I will say about Markie she will apologize when she finds out she is wrong.There is such a thing as free speech and all are entitled to speak it .If we don't like what we hear we are entitled to voice our objections.So say what you want Wise One I can take it and give it.
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 17:00:06 (PDT)
"Wise One" I was just thinking of you an hour ago when I was in a pastry shop and ate a piece of chocolate cake - it reminded me of the comment your mom made many years ago, when you were doing your "O" Level exams at school. She told one of the ladies, that "Our "?" is doing all the cooking and baking cakes, while he is home and just going back to school for his exams." Are you still a good cook and like to bake?
your "friend"
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:57:50 (PDT)
"Not Posh" working as a nanny and doing social religious work is very fulfilling. it fulfills my needs of "motherhood" and fulfills my desire to offer my love to those in need. As of now, I am doing full time Social Religious work. By the way, nannies, my age, my educational background earn about two and a half times more than the nannies in Britian with my educational background and age. So, working as a nanny and doing religious/social work is a great career for me - and you know, I really love what I do. I have never been, or wanted to be a "Corporate" Career woman. In fact, I think next year, when I hit my "mid-thirty" milestone, I may seriously think about going to the third world countries to continue full time social/religious work. Anyway.. have a super day! God Bless. your "new" Guest-book friend... :)
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:56:36 (PDT)
Someone is messing about with the guest book it seems The entry from me dated June 18 is an entry from Jan how it is back up I don't know .let me assure everyone that NOT POSH is not me .I do not know NOT POSH so could not e-mail this person even if I wanted to.
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:55:09 (PDT)
Ah Seaham!... land of my birth. I visit this GB every so often to see if anything has changed, for example, is miss Markie still filing her "letter from America" every day (you really ought to get a husband Jackie), is miss manners still insulting everyone, is Tom Moreland still thinking "POSH" is coined from Chitty, Chitty, Bang Bang (still reading Ibsen and Checkov I see Tom) by the way "POSH" is the abbreviation of Port Out, Starboard Home used when steaming in the tropics where the more delicate of our country had the money to afford cabins on the shaded side of the ship. Just 2 more things... does anyone have contact with Steve Taylor (he was my best mate at Camden Square School)if you do please let the GB know. Secondly..can anyone tell me the term for a Seaham bloke wearing a suit?
SeahamLadLivingAfar <slla@aol.com>
Durham - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:54:15 (PDT)
Jackie,you being sort of "well up" in your knowledge of the good book, can you tell me is it true that God couldn't allow Jesus to be born in Seaham because he couldn't find 3 wise men and a virgin?
Phil E Buster <peb@aol.com>
Garmish, Switzerland - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:52:33 (PDT)
Lol @ Wise One. “Miss Manners and "not Posh" are not the same Person, The "content" of their letters is similar, but the grammer is not! "Not Posh" seems much better educated and uses less Split affinitives.” You do mean grammar, and infinitives, Wise One. I do agree with you about noticing the difference in grammar, word usage, spelling, in revealing the author of some posts in the guest book. Both Jacqueline and Retired Officer spell interim as intrim, both use British spelling, and spell words incorrectly. Note that Jim, the American, spells realise, in the British way as opposed to the American spelling, which is realize. Using the word eloquency for eloquence, and numerous other examples of similar mistakes, points to one poster being the author of the posts in question. Seaham Resident also uses the same sentence structure as Jacqueline, Jim Retired Officer, Mr. Haywood, et.al. Many of us don’t realize that our accent is revealed in our writing. You can take ! the lass/lad out of Durham but you can’t take Durham out of the lass/lad. The word usage reveals the true accent, and speech of we posters. I suspect that the Sybil Syndrome is alive and flourishing on the guest book.
Not Posh
- Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:51:04 (PDT)
Markie I beieve in pro choice I feel it is up to the women to deal with unwanted pregnacies .I do not believe thet a women should be forced to have a baby.I find pro lifers to be too extreme about there beliefs when they resort to bombing clinics and killing docters something just does not jive .How can they say they are pro life
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:48:48 (PDT)
Dear Wise One’s “friend” (and, it is just possible that you may be ‘Wise One’ blowing his own trumpet). You say you have not been in touch with ‘Wise One’ for quite a while, yet you know who he is? Is it possible that he has always purported himself to be ‘One who is Wise’? If you had read my input correctly, you would have noticed that it was I who grew up in Parkside/Dawdon, and not 'Wise One'. From your remarks, is it possible that you believe people who live in Parkside and Dawdon have no self-control, or good manners, do not speak correctly, are not decent, and have no Christian values? If slagging a person (or an institution) off (for no other valid reason than that you feel yourself to be a radical) is being Christian, then I would rather be an atheist. When I read that 'Wise One' is in his mid thirties I was shocked, I thought I had gotten into an argument with an immature youngster. His illogical ranting is similar to that which I used myself, before reac! hing the age of maturity. I have given him a break by ending my conversation with him, and will give him some credit when he does ‘Wise Up’. You could possibly do him (and us) a lot of good by telling us about some of his voluntary work? I do like to hear good news now and again. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Friday, June 20, 2003 at 16:47:51 (PDT)
Sorry if you thought that I was Miss Manners, I'm not. I saw your ad , for a house sitting job, available June 16 on a Texas board and wrongly assumed that you were mis representing yourself.I had thought from your posts that your full time job was in Social /Religious work.I apologize for any misunderstanding.I didn't know that you are a nanny who travels about the USA. Miss Manners I also apologize to you for taking a bum rap.Thus a 'little knowledge is dangerous' is added to my thought processes.
Not Posh
Canada - Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:14:16 (PDT)
"James" Thank you so much for your kind response to me. (As well as others) Yes, I do get a very hard time from many people on this Guest Book. I admit I do "stir the pot" Anyway, it was super talking to you last night - I can't believe it has been over ten years since we last communicated, yet, we were able to just continue with "chit-chatting" as if it were just yesterday that we saw each other. Thank you too, for your very kind and flattering comments. Glad you are doing well, but still cannot figure out why on earth you are residing in West Virginia of all states! Though, it is a very beautiful state - with much history. Oh forgot to ask you, do you still do your yearly reactment of the "Civil War?" I know you were really into that when we were in college. I spoke with Christopher just a few minute ago and he has had surgery, so he is recovering, he sends his regards. Really, he is such a sweet guy... I should have married him when he asked me in 1998 - but I ! was afraid to take the risk - What a "bloody fool!" I was! (You know how much I really liked him in college and we kept in touch all these years - he is a really fun, caring person and one of my greatest friends.)Anyway,I have enjoyed being single, but I think I am now ready for marriage at some point. Look forwarding to trying to make every effort to come out and visit you in the upcoming weekends. Take care and God Bless... Keep up the faith - to know it was me who had an influence on you - just makes me smile so much. I wanted to bring someone else back to the faith, whose first name is also "James" but, I do not think I ministered too well to him - I think I went over board and became too "preachy." So, of course, I was glad to hear that I was able to make a difference in your life and your walk with "Jesus Christ." With Jesus in your heart and life, your life will always be beautiful, even in difficult times and situations.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:12:30 (PDT)
"Miss Manners" there is no way that article I wrote on January 24th was copied - it was my own words - any fool can see that! I am a pretty good writer when I have my head on... Re-read the article again and you will see that was not by anyone else, other than myself.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:09:56 (PDT)
WASHINGTON -- What do Americans want? Safe streets, good schools, friendly neighbors, rewarding work. And where are many Americans finding them? In Canada, New Zealand, Mexico, Israel, Taiwan, and a growing list of other countries that are attracting record numbers of immigrants from the United States. It appears that America is facing an exodus of it's people.Some 100,000 people leave America for their country of origin each year.Add to that 200,000 + Americans who no longer feel that they have quality of life in the States. Each country has social, economic problems, and America is winning the race in the dissatisfied group.
Debate Anyone.
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:09:14 (PDT)
Now a tale of two of HMs "Guests" serving time which is sadly an example of the blatent class distinction still very much practiced in this Country! The first one is an ex MP, Cabinet Minister who was sentenced to 4 years, whilst in prison, he broke numerous rules and regulations, lived like a King, with sumptious meals and lots of "time out" to visit retaurants and home for all the creature comforts that conjours up and his reward for all his misdemeaners? maximum parole benefits and early release next Month. This is the "Establishment" at work. The other a poor chap doing time, for defending his property and possibly his life, accidently shoots dead a Burglar and injures his "partner in crime" and his reward? every obstacle is put in the way of his early release on parole by the self-same establishment. Indeed the surviving Burglar has been granted permission to sue him for damages. It beggars belief. We are it seems not only the most "class conscious Country" ! in the World, but the most foolish! A "Dickens" character once described the law as an Ass. was he right? contributions on a postcard please. What do you think Jacqueline?
Wise One
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:08:12 (PDT)
Oh Dear Now Tom(G'bye) Moreland and Father (I'm outa here) Corrigan have joined the B & B Brigade, Together with past contributers from New Zealand, Oz, Spain and elsewhere, What happens is they get into the Kitchen and then find they can't stand the heat! and take the "huff" on minor matters, like when they fail to think of an adequate response, and decide silence is truly golden. and the B & B Brigade? Thats the ones who "take their Bat and Ball" in when they can't get their own way!
Wise One
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:06:11 (PDT)
Miss Manners and "not Posh" are not the same Person, The "content" of their letters is similar, but the grammer is not! "Not Posh" seems much better educated and uses less Split affinitives!
Wise One
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:05:20 (PDT)
"Wise One" I am NOT sure I am an asset to this G/B I think I "waffle" my mouth off too much. I am just as much of a "Pain" to Seaham as when I lived there... Only I am now 16 years older than when I last resided there.... I am still a pain in the bottom! I think it is time, God found me the "husband" I am praying for... then I know in the evenings after work, I would be busy with other things, and not getting myself into "waffles of trouble" on our home town Guest Book. My dad would always tell me, "Jacqueline, your mouth gets you in trouble!" "Wise One" I still rant off my mouth... Pray for me to learn the art of "silence"... when appropriate. Hey, it is a good thing I can smile at my short-comings... I have plenty of them! Anyway, have a nice day everyone...
Jacqueline
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:03:30 (PDT)
My "friend" should we try again for this Friday between 10.30pm and 10.45pm your time? What do you think? Look forward to it.... Or what about 10.00pm Friday?... Let me know... your "friend."
Your "friend"
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:02:50 (PDT)
Dear "Miss Manners" I did ask my friends to look at this G/B so they could see the "heck" I get from some people. So, I do aplogize that I mistakenly took you for "Not Posh." Anyway, I offer my apologies to you.
Jacqueline
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:02:01 (PDT)
Jacqueline, I know who that "Not Posh" maybe... Lives in GA initials either: "A" for first name. Or, initials "J" "R" for last name. Or it is initials "P" for first name or, initials "S" for first name. Not hard to figure out.... "wiser than you."
One of your friends. <: "wiser than you.">
- Thursday, June 19, 2003 at 16:01:03 (PDT)
Dear "Tom Morland" I can assure you that "Wise One" did not grow up in Parkside or Dawdon. I personally know his parents and one of them is well educated. "Wise One" grew up in rather a "controlled" home environment, where manners were high on the priority list as well as speaking correctly and having the Christian values installed. I know his parents - I can assure you he grew up in rather a decent home. As of now, I am not sure where "Wise One" now resides, but I can imagine, that his place of residency has not changed how he was raised and of the values he was raised with. He may have gone through a few years of "rebellion" but I think now that he is in his mid-thirties, he has "wised up!" And I think he may do well for the community with some of his volunteer work. Give him a break and give him some credid. Thanks...
Wise One's "friend."
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:58:19 (PDT)
"Wise One" waht are you talking about? "The Engineer and the Conductor?" And trying something different in what? Terms of career, (which I am) or terms of "not being afraid to take the risk in developing new relationships?" And... I am not sure that my "train of thoughts" are "hard to follow." I am extremely direct at times, too much that it gets me into trouble. Just take a look at the comments that fly back to me on this Guest-Book. My friend, James, from VA, who contacted me through this G/B... told me last night that through my being too outspoken, I am basically "upsetting" a lot of people. I think I need to learn to keep my mouth shut. Lets look at it as "rebellion" from always been told to "shut-up" when I was a kid. Now I make up for it, and speak out my opinions - Ooooh, but, boy! oh boy! do I get Hell for it and I do! But oh well.... Never mind! Anyway, have a nice day. :)
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:57:08 (PDT)
Dear Tom Moreland, sorry you're a quiter! thought you had more "bottle" than that, You sound rather confused and you probably do right to take a rest from the Guestbook, I do however look forward to seeing further contributions from you in due course.
Wise One
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:56:16 (PDT)
Miss Markie you never fail to amuse me.Just when I think there might be a brain in your head,I am refering to your Jan- 24- 03 entry I find out you copied it from a media article tsk tsk.Then you show your immaturity and write a piece of drivel on Jan-27-03. What century are you in ,the suffragette's will all be rolling in their graves.No man, women or fowl like you will ever put me in my place my dear.To cheer on a man to put a woman in her place is really showing your immaturity.next time you have a bad case of oral diarrhea use the W.C.not the guestbook.Miss Markie do ever peruse your entries you should I think in your last entry you just insulted every person who lives in Seaham, Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:55:43 (PDT)
Jacqueline Markie, You are truly well blessed, your Friends know this and you must be very proud of them as they are of you. I have not always agreed with you 100% on this Guestbook, but your integrity is certain and you are an asset to this Guestbook aand a credit to Seaham
Wise One
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:52:22 (PDT)
Jock (wise one!),your words are wasted here my friend!!To my knowledge there are no weemin in Seaham who have failed to enjoy the pleasure of a full (or is that fully?) blown Scotsman!Those who just canny get enough have moved to Aberdeen!!
Scotland Forever
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:51:46 (PDT)
First I want to thank the proprietors of this guestbook for getting me back in touch with a dear, much missed friend. Second, I have seen her as the subject of no little ridicule and of great praise. Speaking as one who disagrees with her on very nearly everything, I realise she can be just a might "preachy" on her causes and platforms. Still she is one of the few truly kind and caring people I have ever known and since we got back in touch, the Jacqueline I knew ten years ago has only improved. I think there was a run-on-sentence in there but I hope Dr. Pangloss isn't the one to tell me.For all his rhetorical skill he splits his infinitives.
Jim <fountainpenuser@yahoo.com>
Bluefield, WV USA - Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:51:08 (PDT)
REgarding my last. Yes it should be TOO not TO. You lot would irritate the spelling gene out of anybody.
Victor H. Brown <Huntrods@btinternet.com>
Louth, - Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:49:11 (PDT)
Okay.. debates on other subjects, other than always protaining to "Jacqueline" I am not that important - at all! Anyway, what about "pro-life vs pro-choice?" or, we can discuss the aftermath of the Iraq War - which is still going on.....
Jacqueline
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:48:11 (PDT)
If "Not Posh" is not "Miss Manners" then who or why is "Not Posh" being a pain in the rear end toward "Jacqueline." Look, between "Miss Manners" and "Not Posh" the two of you have something against "Jacqueline." Leave her alone and DO NOT USE this Guest-Book to spout personal conflictions. E-mail each other - Please, as we of this Guest Book do not wish to have out G/B used as a "Venting Board." Thank you.
Seaham resident
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:46:06 (PDT)
Wise One Lets get one thing straight I joined the human race the day I was born .I am sure if there is such a thing as another life after death and such a thing as a god to humble myself to then so be it but dear Wise One noone appointed you as a savior so please try not to play god in the future
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:45:17 (PDT)
Markie I am sorry but I cannot take the credit for the comments by Not Posh .You seem to be under the imppression that it is I but it is not as I don't know you from adam any comments I have to make about you are strictly from your entries in the guestbook .Not Posh has to know you pretty well and whoever it is really started quite a frenzy didn't they.Now to Not Posh whoever you are boy did you stir the pot.
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:44:32 (PDT)
Miss Manners - "Posh" has nothing to do with one's chosen career. A nanny is a very important profession. Someone with Jacqueline's dedication, Education and Poise, and eloquency are the characters I would welcome to care for and to raise my children. I have known Jacqueline since she worked for my husband and myself in Germany, she is GodMother to my youngest son and very much part of the lives of our family and children. Jacqueline is very much a 'lady' with the highest morals and with maturity that goes beyond her years in many ways. Jacqueline can be described as "Posh" due to her dignity and poise and how she carries herself. Jacqueline, does however, speak her mind and takes on more than she can chew. Otherwise, she is a lovely young lady, get to know her and you will be surprised. House-sitting is not uncommon to do here in the states while one is waiting for a job in the intrim. It is also a great way to have a vacation. I admire Jacqueline's resourcefulnes! s and how she has grown into a very well rounded woman since she came to work for us in Germany.
Retired Officer (USA Army.)
- Wednesday, June 18, 2003 at 16:43:23 (PDT)
Miss Manners - "Posh" has nothing to do with one's chosen career. A nanny is a very important profession. Someone with Jacqueline's dedication, Education and Poise, and eloquency are the characters I would welcome to care for and to raise my children. I have known Jacqueline since she worked for my husband and myself in Germany, she is GodMother to my youngest son and very much part of the lives of our family and children. Jacqueline is very much a 'lady' with the highest morals and with maturity that goes beyond her years in many ways. Jacqueline can be described as "Posh" due to her dignity and poise and how she carries herself. Jacqueline, does however, speak her mind and takes on more than she can chew. Otherwise, she is a lovely young lady, get to know her and you will be surprised. House-sitting is not uncommon to do here in the states while one is waiting for a job in the intrim. It is also a great way to have a vacation. I admire Jacqueline's resourcefulnes! s and how she has grown into a very well rounded woman since she came to work for us in Germany.
Retired Officer (USA Army)
- Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:50:36 (PDT)
Miss Manners, your rude and selfish comments toward Ms. Markie has just wiped away your character. It appears you may have known her at sometime in your life, or maybe not, instead just got to know her through this G/B. Nevertheless, you continue to try to "put her down." I am sure you are a nice person yourself, but for whatever reason it comes accross as you are competing with Ms. Markie where you are both very different people with very different outlooks on life. You are both like apples and oranges and cannot be compared. By your rude comments to Ms. Markie it is instigating childish, pathetic come-backs from others on this Guest Book and quite frankly, this G/B is now becoming a "joke!" Why don't you use the Canadian Guest Book instead. And Ms. Markie, PLEASE IGNORE "MISS MANNERS" COMMENTS - AND LETS GET THIS GUEST BOOK BACK INTO SOME MATURE ORDER.
David
Seaham, - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:48:43 (PDT)
Not Posh would love to see some more entries from you
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:47:15 (PDT)
Miss Manners Your latest effort shows restraint and you've almost turned the other cheek! well done, show now, a little humility and you will be able to rejoin the Human race.
Wise One
- Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:46:36 (PDT)
Jacqueline, both you and I have on occasions gone against the grain! and why not? It takes courage, strength and conviction to go against the grain, but if someone hadn't done it, we wouldn't have many of the things we have today like bread, cars, TVs, chocolate chips, icecream or radios in the home and the car, it is often difficult to get other People to follow your train of thought, Stop trying, remember its your train, You are the Engineer and the Conductor. We usually want and need help, support and comfort when we are doing something new. If we do not get it, so what! does that mean we should stop what we are doing? Absolutely not! The path to success is paved with roadsigns, warning symbols and obstructions. But when you start a new trail equipped with courage, strength and conviction, the only thing that can stop you is you. No one can uproot the tree that God has planted!
Wise One
- Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:46:02 (PDT)
Och aye the noo Missy manners, so tha disna loike oor accent? sham on thee, if thers niver romped in the heather wif a true Scotsman thes niver lived my Pet.
Jock(Wise One)
- Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:44:57 (PDT)
"Not Posh Canada" What is your point? Everyone knows I have worked as a Nanny in the USA and as far as "House-Sitting" I have not, but would have, for the intrim, but got a job up here in Washington DC. So what is your point? Our friend the sweet, "Wise One" frequently pulls you up for purposely and intentionally being completely "mean" to me, when you don't even know me - you have had it in for me for as long as you first saw my name on my home-town "Guest-Book." And why have you had it in for me? I have no clue, accept you just like to argue and you lack "dignity." You never sign your "real name" which means you do not have the courage to reveal who you really are - you hide behind "Miss Manners" or "Not Posh - Canada" Have the courage to reveal who you really are. And stop being purposely vindictive. I am working in DC with church ministries at this time. Maybe you do know me and maybe you are jealous. Whatever it is, you are not a "Happy" person. If you have no! thing nice to say to me or about me, please leave my name out of all of your comments on this Guest Book. Now have a nice and Blest Day.
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:44:10 (PDT)
Markie's in love, oh boy! - it's going to get worse, the drivvle is too much to handle, I'm outta here for good.
Father Corrigan
Seaham, - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:42:35 (PDT)
Miss Manners: I have read many of your comments on this Guest Book as well as read many of your demeaning messages to Jacqueline Markie. I am puzzled as to why you have a vendeta against Miss Markie. I personally know Jacqueline and have worked closely with her for many years. I can assure you Jacqueline is a very kind, giving woman who lives a good decent life. I often tell her, that due to her wanting to always speak her opinions she gets herself deeper into the sea - so to speak, however, if you got to know her as I have, you would see she is an incredible individual. Perhaps you could be as stong as she, by printing your real name instead of just a "screen name." Many of your comments on this G/B are NEGATIVE TOWARD MOST PEOPLE - YOU DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE A VERY KIND, LOVING, SINCERE DISPOSITION. Perhaps you could take a lesson from Wise One, Tom Morland, and many others in learning to direct your comments in a kinder and gentle manner. By the way, Jacqueline i! s in Washington DC with our ministry group and works very hard caring for a certain group of children as well as advocating Pro-life - Human Rights. She has indeed been in the wrong profession by doing some nanny work. However, if you saw her Humanitarian Resume, it would serve her well to continue with Political and Human Rights work on a full time basis instead of part-time as she insists on doing. She may even make an excellent Politican! But instead she has a desire of missionary work.
Mr Haywood
Washington DC - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:41:48 (PDT)
Dear Wise One, your latest statement says it all; you cannot remember what questions you ask, and your language (as normal) degenerates into the offensive. Growing up in Parkside and Dawdon I was taught how to catch slippery customers; you do even come into the equation, and I think we had said enough on this subject. Goodbye TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:39:50 (PDT)
: "James T. Fowler Knight!" "Greetings and Saluations!" I can still quote you!!!! Yes this is me... the "proper" English girl, whom you first met on Thursday's class of "Foundations of Teaching." What a super memory I have. Wow, I bet you are having a laugh at my comments on my home town Guest-Book? I have not changed, I still like to put in my Religious and Political opinions! Anyway... How are you? I still communicate with Christopher Reddington. He is now married and is in the Air Force. He and his wife, Tammy are in Arkansas. Oh my gosh! I cannot believe this is you. Where are you? Oh I can laught at our days in college - in the cafeteria - when I took your cigerettes! because I do not like smoke! Do you still smoke? Remember at Jennifer Ganges party - my first American College Party! I will never forget that evening - what a blast! I was going around like Mary Poppins cleaning all the beer cans. Remember too - Skeeter! Who could ever forget him! Christopher and ! I still laught about Skeeter, and you, Crystal, Lucy, Kevin, Will Smith, Liam and "Nathanderal" and the rest of the gang of the Radio Station! Remember the halloween party?!!! Hey so how is your mom doing? I hope well. So my Gosh! I need to e-mail you and we need to catch up! I bet if you are still in Pennsylvania or even if you are in Virginia I could visit with you as Washington DC is not too terribly far away. Hey, I will have you know, I drove 17 hours from Austin to Atlanta last summer! Anyway, skoot me an e-mail... take care and God Bless... so great to see you on this Guest Book.
Jacqueline <Jacquiekmary@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, June 17, 2003 at 16:38:36 (PDT)
I apologise if this doesn't directly relate to Seaham Harbour but I saw a number of postings from a Jaqueline Markie now living in the U.S. and am curious to know if this might be the same Jacqueline I used to know in Pennsylvania in the early '90's. If so, I wish very much that you would email me. If not, I apologise again for the mistake.
Jim Knight <fountainpenuser@yahoo.com>
Bluefield, West Virgina USA - Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:57:51 (PDT)
Wise One That was a grandiose entry talk about a cat fight pull your claws back meow meow.I can accept everything you said about me and take it with a grain of salt I just have to remember where it came from and why.
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:56:01 (PDT)
"Wise One" You are so sweet; and very gracious - Thank you so much - I have a very big smile on my face - I have just sent you a note via "friendsreunited" and told you about my day - it was a very beautiful day. My friends and I went downtown Washington DC and took a small cruise to the sighteeing monuments and then had lunch in a quaint French Cafe. The journey back home was less than desireable due to the weather - it suddenly turned horrid! Needless-to-say, I am rather worn out, and tired, so I am about to make a cup of hot herbal tea and watch a movie, staring Cary Grant, David Niven and Loretta Young - the movie is called, "The Bishops Wife" It is a black and while old classic movie. It is kind of a Love Story and Cary grant plays the Angel. I am going to relax and enjoy the movie, while quietly praying that very soon God will introduce a beautiful husband to me - who will be as "gentleman" as you have been to me and as complimentary. I appreciate so much you! r kindness and Christian friendship love. I really do and mean it from my heart. Have a very beautiful day.
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:54:04 (PDT)
Scotland Forever I really was not insulting the scottish accent I was just trying to point out the difference in accents of the British Isles .Some of my great friends in Canada are scots and I love them dearly .
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:52:36 (PDT)
Why lawyers should never ask a witness a question if they aren't prepared for the answer In a trial, a southern small town prosecuting attorney called his first witness to the stand - a grandmotherly, elderly woman. He approached her and asked "Mrs. Jones, do you know me?" She responded "why, yes I do know you, Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a young boy, and frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you cheat on your wife, you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think you're a big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you never will amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you." The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do, he pointed across the room and asked "Mrs Jones, do you know the defence attorney?" She again replied "why yes, I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster too. He's lazy, bigoted, and he has a drinking problem. He can't build a normal relationship with anyone and his law practice is one of the worst in the entire state. Not to mention he cheated on his wife with three different women. Yes, I know him." The defence attorney almost died! At this point, the judge brought the courtroom to silence, called both counsellors to the bench, and in a very quiet voice, said "If either of you b*st*rds asks her if she knows me, you'll be jailed for contempt."
The Joker
- Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:51:51 (PDT)
"Wise One" You have done better than me - I have, unfortunately been guilty of more than one of the seven deadly sins - Jealousy, greed and... yes, lust! Well, sinning with having "lustful" thoughts - not actually doing "lustful" things. Our lives on earth are a journey to prepare us for Heaven. Without mistakes, we cannot learn, without sorrow, we do not know how to laugh, and without difficult times, we do not appreciate the good and beautiful times. The Saints were not immediate "Saints." Many of the Saints made some terrible mistakes in their lives, but they grew through wanting and desiring so much of God in their daily lives. My love for God and for Jesus Christ, does not mean that I "think" or that I am perfect. I am absolutely not! I am human, and like everyone else, I too, make human errors in my life. My love for Jesus Christ, means that I want so much to work toward being as close to human perfection as I possibly can. Though, as yet, I still have not pe! rfected the "art" of "silence" when it is necessary, nor the "art" of "obedience" - Of listening to God's word. I am a woman of "Substance" of strength and of stubborness and "Pride." And a woman who has had to be to strong and forthright, in order to survive. I am very analytical and a "deep thinker." I always like to get to the "bottom" of things and put the pieces of the puzzle together. I am not sure what kind of man could ever handle me or who would have the patience and understandings to handle me. It is going to take for God to perform a "miracle" for him to be able to find that "right" gentleman that is meant just for me. I am so glad that you have not fallen into the temptation of the "seven deadly sins" other than envy. It means you have listened well to God and taken your faith far beyond than most. You are a wonderful influence to many.
Jacqueline
- Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:50:19 (PDT)
"Wise One" be careful..... I could be "Swept off my feet." The ocean is between, but the Love of Jesus stays in my heart; and because of his love.... I know how to love from afar. I thank him for bringing a friendship together - between two Christians. Have a beautiful day.
"your friend"
- Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:48:25 (PDT)
Hi Denis Berry, There are 9 Berry's in the local phone book, Initials are DW, E, G. J. M.(3) and W(3) Wouldn't put there addresses/phone Nos on the open Guestbook, but if you give a time for Seaham Chatline I'll give you the info on a closed line! regards
Wise One
- Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:47:26 (PDT)
Dear Tom Moreland repeating the Question? Do you think that will help? Try re-reading it! try answering all of them! You are as evasive as a "bar of soap in a bathtub" and you have relations in the FIRE Service? Well we all have our weaknesses Tom, and Ashington too? Wow
Wise One
- Monday, June 16, 2003 at 15:46:40 (PDT)
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Hamburg, Hamburg Deutschland - Sunday, June 15, 2003 at 05:51:11 (PDT)
Hi My father was born in Seaham Harbour .His name was William Robert Berry.He had a brother Peter and a sister Jessie.I was wondering is there any Berry,s still around Seaham Harbour. Denis Berry
Denis Berry <berryd@nbnet.nb.ca>
Miramichi, New Brunswick Canada - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:12:44 (PDT)
Dear John's Lad. How can one person be so wrong? If the sinkers at Seaham colliery had given up when they were in a hole, they would not have developed the coal seams that helped feed my family for over a span of five generations. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:11:03 (PDT)
Dear Wise One, again I am confused. I have read over your responses several times, and cannot find anything which relates to your statement 'Oh and do point out what I asked you to'. Could you please repeat the question, and I will try to respond as best I can. Regards TOM (Just as a matter of interest, I have no love for the police force, but do have relations in the fire service)
Thomas Moreland <dadmoreland@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:09:58 (PDT)
To "Bunyard's Exibit" Thank you - I can always count on you to keep me in "place!" Hope all is well with you.
Jacqueline
USA - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:08:39 (PDT)
England/New Zealand - 'nuf said!
Not Thomas Johnson
- Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:07:57 (PDT)
Harbourlad Must admit I'm guilty of one of the "seven deadly sins" and that is "envy" at not being there in person to see the magnificent English Rugby Lads win over the equally magnificent "All Blacks" for the first time in, is it 30 years on NZ soil! those last 20 minutes must have been "nailbiting" What a game, so yes, wish I'd been there. now for the World Cup in October when we could clash again with the All Blacks in the final. I'm sure a lot of expats, some of whom now support Oz will be the first to say "well done England!" or will they? anyway best of luck harbourlad, looked for you in the crowd but there must have been loads of Makems there as there were lots and lots of red and whites on view, mind you if I was a Sunderland Supporter I'd want to get as far away from the Stadium of Light as possible! could I interest you Harbourlad in a Season ticket for St James Park? Hope you appreciate the last paragraph is "tongue in cheek. Oh and Jacqueline, ! before you say anything please note that envy is the ONLY one of the seven deadly sins I've broken.
Wise One
- Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:07:17 (PDT)
Further to my recent letter on the word "Posh" Jacqueline you should not feel offended by anyone referring to you as such, my dictionary defines "posh" as classy, elegant, formal, grand,luxurious, very smart, stylish, swish and sumptuous! All of these terms are complimentary, now Miss Manners could hardly be described in such endearing terms, perhaps condescending, disdainful, highfalutin, patronising, pompous, pretentious, supercilious and furtively nasty spring to mind, It is very obvious Jacqueline that you are more than a match for Miss Manners and the way you ever so gently "put her in her place" without being insulting is the Christian thing to do! I do believe however that there is good in all of us and inside Miss Manners there is a lot of good just waiting to manifest itself, hasten the day!
Wise One
- Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:05:53 (PDT)
"Wise One" I do not think that when the people at school were name calling me "posh" were saying it as a "term of endearment." At that time we were all teenagers trying to survive life in Seaham and I think they were just being plain out mean! Almost referring to me as "snobby." Now I know you knew me when I was younger and tell me, Was I a snob? And.. did I speak posh? I do not believe I was a snob, or did I really speak posh... I still do not think I speak posh. But as my sister said the other day, I sound anything but, English! and certainly not from Seaham. Yet, my American friends think I have a very beautiful English accent. I have heard myself speak on answering machines and I think I sound somewhat American, with a soft 'lilt" to my accent - some say I sound "Irish!" and others do say "Scottish" Of which I am somewhat proud of, as I am from Scottish and Irish heritage. Though I was raised in England - so I got the best all around!(And probably some of my ac! cent is a southern American accent picked up from Texas or Georgia, as I have spent most of my time in USA in the southern states.) Needless to say, I, myself, do not think I sound "posh" Though, I do not use slang words. I think perhaps "Posh" is associated with one's accent. Anyway, it got the guest-book going again, so thank you "wise One" for indirectly instigating that debate. Okay what else can we all debate about? Any suggestions?
Jacqueline
USA - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:04:38 (PDT)
Dear John's Lad. Further to what you said after hole digging, I know what you mean about double standards. I still remember 'Ashington'. I have been on the receiving end of police brutality, but never with so much evil intent. Unfortunately it is still a force we must still deal positively with (good or bad). Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Saturday, June 14, 2003 at 16:03:50 (PDT)
Wise One So you would like to be in Wellington for the rugby, I think you will be missing a great occasion. the weather is looking good so all the signs are favorable for a great game, The wife and I have our tickets so we will be at the Caketin watching the game. Keep your eye on the crowd and I'll give you a wave, I'll be the one with the red and white Sunderland scarf. We need to see an England win in the rugby because the English netball tream have just been beaten 3-nil in a test series by the silver ferns, according to the commentator on t.v. that was the 25th straight victory for the ferns in games between these two teams. Also would like to mention a traffic cop out here who was on the news last month for giving out 100 speeding tickets in a 8 hour shift. One every five minutes, hows that for taking revenue gathering to the extreme. Seems all these countries have found a new lucrative way to fill their coffers. Take the bus it will be cheaper. harbour lad
harbour l;ad
wellington, new zealand - Friday, June 13, 2003 at 16:00:27 (PDT)
Dear Miss Manners,shame on you!!The accent of the people of Scotland is widely accepted as one worthy of your trust,ask all the call centre managers down your way!In fact you may well ask any girlie in the NE as they seem inclined to drop they're defences easier than hadrians wall to those with a Scottish lilt.(The tone of voice silly!!no the drink!)
Scotland Forever
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:58:22 (PDT)
To my "friend" sorry that your server was a pain, glad we connect though, it was only for a few minutes. Hope you are well. Please lets try for another evening sooner this week - thanks! :)
your friend
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:57:07 (PDT)
Dear Tom Moreland, it is you who has lost the plot and you are "getting out of your depth" somewhat! you quote me as saying: "the police should do nothing about speeding motorists and should concentrate on household crime" sorry but these are not my words! You know Tom the angry confused comments all appear to emminate from you and of course from the "ever confused" Miss Manners! why dont you have another "butchers" at what I really did say! in effect the Police are spending too much time persecuting the long-suffering Motorist and not enough time on stopping the Muggers, burglars and worse! I have no objection to the Police "cracking down" on the real road Villains, such as maniac drivers, uninsured, unlicenced or disqualified Drivers. Speed cameras sited near schools etc are OK but using them as a cash cow is totally unacceptable! Also using revenue from speed cameras to provide provide further cameras to prosecute more Drivers will not improve relations bet! ween the Public and Police and the siting of speed cameras at inappropriate places compounds the problem.There have been numerous examples quoted in the press lately of Police vehicles parked on double yellow lines, pavements and near to Zebra crossings with their little cameras poking out of the back windows! I have the feeling Tom Moreland that you are in some way connected to the Police? Oh and do point out what I asked you to.
Wise One
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:32:37 (PDT)
"Miss Manners" I did not mean to come across as "bragging" I was merely, trying to make a point - what is the real defination of "posh?" As I was not raised "high class" yet, I was considered "Posh" by the way I spoke, as I did not use "slang" language. Anyway, so glad that you put forth a valid defination - Thanks! Now we will see what "Wise One" has to say now.
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:30:46 (PDT)
A word of advice Tom Morland When you're in a hole, stop digging. A lot of People are sick of the double standards preached but not practiced by the Police and other Public authorities.
John's Lad
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:29:41 (PDT)
The term P.O.S.H. is well defined in the musical Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and was a derogatory term used by sailors to define the haves, and have-nots. Having lived in the Wide back street at Dawdon I was termed as posh because I always said No, as opposed to Nah, and Yes, as opposed to Why I Man. Still, being my own person it never particularly bothered me. Calling a person posh is an inverse way of making oneself feel superior. Its the same when calling oneself working class; the vast majority of people who quote this term do not work. The majority of business people, who I have worked for, have usually worked harder than me. The general exception to this rule is usually people from lower wage families, whose parents have worked their fingers to the bone sending them to university. These posh pen-pusher-people believe that they are too grand to get their hands out of their pockets. I have been a manual worker all my life, but have never demeaned m! yself by saying I am working class. I consider myself to be a PROUD British citizen. Even the Queen (God bless her) is just a single cog in this great big wheel we call England. She may be the centre cog but, without the likes of you and me, the wheels of Britain could not turn. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:28:53 (PDT)
Further to my previous comments. I meant to say 'PROUD' British citizen, who is even more PROUD to say that he was born and bred in 'SEAHAM'. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:26:51 (PDT)
I think most People know the origin of the word "posh" It seems years ago, well off People travelling to the Orient could afford to travel "Port side out and Starboard side home" later shortened to "Port out Starboard Home" ie posh, now Jacqueline they were sure well off Folk and deserved their posh status! now when you were referred to as posh, I'm equally sure, it was meant as a "term of endearment" only. I'm sure "posh" is not a deliberately insulting term, if anyone called me that I'd just have a good laugh! feel free. incidently the last time I was in London, someone ever-so-politely asked me "do they still live in caves" in the NE? Did I feel insulted? no just had another good laugh, or as the Cockney Friend of mine who uttered those words says "Larf"
Wise One
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:25:46 (PDT)
People who are educated at Oxford do not all have the same accent. You do not write as if you were 'Oxford Educated'.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:24:23 (PDT)
"Wise One" I will quote you what you said on: Sunday June 1st @ 16.06pm. "I admit, I can be a bit "Grouchy!" I now says to you... "No! Are you sure?" ( I am being sarkastic!) Well... I remember you did get grouchy many times! ~ Now I cannot believe you would ever be "grouchy." Have a nice day!~ :>) Smile!!! You have such a nice smile~:>)
You know "me"
- Friday, June 13, 2003 at 15:22:57 (PDT)
This is a great website. Greetings. sexo
sexo <elerotikon@hotmail.com>
USA - Friday, June 13, 2003 at 11:32:22 (PDT)
Posh is another word for High Class wich for some reason a few people in the north like to call people from the south.I beleive its simply because of the accent which for the most sounds high class where in the north our accentis maybe a little rough but as you go further north into Scotland it gets a little more rougher.My dear Markie it has nothing to do with your bragging about your family holidays or whether your home is bought or rented or even if you do not partake of a beer a day and even stil if you are not a christian .Posh is a adjective.Why is it when you try to come down to earth you insult everyone who does not conform to your immature outlook on life get real.Oh and wise one you really blew any credibility with that remark to Tom Morland Realname: Miss Manners
Miss Manners
- Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 03:08:00 (PDT)
My "Friend" to another... Lets try again on Friday... wait until 10.45pm your time. Thanks.
Your Friend
- Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 03:06:14 (PDT)
Dear Wise One, I commend your attitude to the graffiti I mentioned, but your fingers have assumed the ranting of one who has lost the plot. In your first comments you complain that the police should do nothing about speeding motorists, and should concentrate on household crime. The only part of the police force that deals solely with motoring offences is the traffic section, and the traffic section has little - to no - dealings with household crime. You complain of vehicles travelling too fast in front of schools, yet you protest that the police are trying to stop them speeding. I am totally confused as to where you stand on the issue. I agree with everything you say regarding the fire service, but still insist that the fire service have every legal right to strike. People used to say exactly the same thing during the 70s, when the miners had the country working a 3-day week. Why do you not physically campaign to have strikes within certain services made illegal, as opposed to making angry/confusing comments on this bulletin board? Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London - Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 03:04:42 (PDT)
Can anyone remember what used to be on the piece of land in adelaide road was it is now the doctors surgery the land was grassed for many years Cheers paul
paul
Whitley Bay, - Thursday, June 12, 2003 at 03:02:03 (PDT)
With regards to the comments of "Thomas Morland" that "Wise One" perceived as making an arguementative "debate" over the "Class" structure that is adopted by the British, really bugs me! "Wise One" writes, "We are a working class area and not "posh" as they are down south." What on earth is that suppose to mean? ......... When I was a kid attending Northlea School, I was told I was "Posh" by the way I spoke. At that time, I can assure you I had a north eastern "Seaham Harbor" accent. However, I just did not use the "slang" inproper language. So I was classified as "Posh" by the way I spoke, but I lived in a very working class area "Seaham harbor" with working class parents. Our home is in Viceroy Street, it is a very nice home, as mom and dad have worked on it very hard and got new kitchen, and floors and everything else new in their home; that was once owned by the council. (My parents finished buying their home about 11 years ago.) We always had a very nice, well! -kept home; with moderate expenses for furniture. I always had the cutest room and was always dressed in reserved, "lady-like" expensive clothes. Furthermore, my parents would take two-three vacations per year to Europe: Spain, Italy, Greece, one year we went to Africa. So in saying all of that, does that make "us" my family, "Posh?" I spoke correctly, lived in a nice home, had nice clothes, went on vacations, but lived in a "working class" area. Oh, incidentially, neither one of my parents have a "college Education." But, I was classified as "Posh" when I was at home........"Wise One"... I have heard the people from the south of England speak and some of their accents are terrible! I would in no way, define them as being "Posh." ......... So let us all have a debate on this issue...... What is "Posh?" let us define the usage of the word and description of "Posh." "Wise One" parts of the south are in terrible conditions, as are parts of the north, and various other areas in! the UK. Likewise, parts of the north are in very well-kept conditions . Describe to me your defination of "Posh!" Because I suppose you would think I am all posh by the way I now sound "American" or when I am with British people, I am told I sound "Oxford" Educated. However, I, myself, am very "Down-to-earth" and mingle with all kinds of people who are from various social, economical, psychological, environments. Is "Posh" defined by Accents, or by Education, or by Materialism, Or by one's own personal "Value and Social Moral System" one chooses to follow? (Am I "Posh" because I do not smoke, or drink beer every night, and because I speak correctly, and I have adopted a "Christian" approach to how I choose to live my life.") I really think the word "Posh" is misused. ........... Any comments? Please....
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:59:01 (PDT)
"Wise One" Hope you are well. Thanks for good insight! Hope Ed and Sadi post my message on the "Defination of the word "Posh." The arguementive debate you indirectly instigated. Wait until you read it!.... Then, I know you will have an opinion to give to me. Ed and Sadi, please post it!!!~:>) Thank you :) Jacqueline. Oh, Ed, I did not really know you have not been feeling too well, so I hope now you are feeling much better. Thank you Sadi for helping Ed out with the messages on this great Seaham Guest-Book! Have a Nice and Super and Beautiful and most of all.... Have a Blessed Day! ~:)
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:56:05 (PDT)
Oh To be in Wellington on Saturday for the All-Black V England Rugby clash, I believe both sides are back to their best and there should be a feast of Rugby on show for the Fans! Unlike Football, Rugby matches can be a real "battle" on the pitch,but after the match they are all Friends "off the pitch" Now both England and the All Blacks are my two favourite teams and whilst I would off course, like to see the old Country come out on top, I would rather see a good old fashioned set-to and game, set, and Match to the better team on the day
Wise One
- Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:53:45 (PDT)
Looking for information/details on SIDNEY GODFREY BROWN (deceased 1977) residing at 9 Hoyle Crescent, New Seaham, during 1947....?
Martyn <martynjbrown26@netscape.net>
Gibralter, Gibraltar Southern Europe - Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:52:17 (PDT)
George again.(Writing a book about the 1962 lifeboat disaster) Does anyone have any evidance of where the second Cox' was found. He was found first at about midnight but accounts of where differ. Some say Blackhall while others say he made it to the Blast only to die of Hyperthermia. Dr Currie reports working on him for a while but eventually giving up. Arty Lockyear reports picking him up off the beach and taking him to the Doctors but not where he found him. I need this information and more like it. If anyone can help please E-mail me on CrlGrys@aol.com. Thanks George
George Laws <CrlGrys@aol.com>
Houghton le Spring, Tyne and Wear England - Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:50:28 (PDT)
"Wise One" I seem to remember a friend of yours called by a nick-name referred as "Jelly Wobbles" by a certain pesty young girl. Anyway, how is he doing? And what is he doing these days
Your friend
- Wednesday, June 11, 2003 at 15:47:59 (PDT)
Some mornings we wake up feeling good, ready to go out and take on the World, but on other days we wake up to a grayness that makes the whole World seem depressing. On those days we need to remember "Every day is a blessing to behold" We must realize that the attitude with which we greet the day says a great deal about what the day will be like. We make our days pleasant or miserable. If we insist on being miserable, irritable or nasty, more than likely the day will give us exactly what we give it. When we start the day with a spirit of joy, openness, peace and love, we put the World on alert, we want more of the same. a day is too valuable to waste on misery and unhappiness. Even misery cannot stand up to a happy face and heart.
Wise One
- Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 05:59:23 (PDT)
does anybody out there know of a muriel walker, i expect she has a different surname now and will be at least 60 years old.sorry i do not any other information.thankyou.
emma howells <emma@howells9890.freeserve.co.uk>
andover, hampshire united kingdom - Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 05:58:12 (PDT)
and Thomas Moreland, your comment on the graffiti is out of line, only an idiot would "applaud" such sentiments! I just hope that if ever you have a break in at your house/Flat and ring the Police, they don't tell you "sorry Mr Moreland all our Officers are out revenue collecting trying to catch Motorists doing 31 MPH etc, so just dont get in the Burglars way in case you injure him, cause if you do we'll find a couple of Policemen to come over and get you for GBH" "and make sure you don't put any obstacles in the Burglar's path as he can sue you for damages if he trips and injures himself!" They might even add "Have a nice day Mr Moreland! fantasy? no! it has happened.
Wise One
- Monday, June 09, 2003 at 10:59:58 (PDT)
BOB RAYMOND - JEAN CUMMINGS. ANYONE REMEMBER MY PARENTS? BOTH BORN(1930'S)AND BROUGHT UP IN SEAHAM . NOW LIVING IN DURHAM.LOVE TO HEAR ANY RECOLLECTIONS. THANKS
sue lennon <tom.mlennon@btinternet.com>
liverpool, merseyside - Monday, June 09, 2003 at 10:58:37 (PDT)
Dear Thomas S Moreland, thank you for your comments on my letter, which I found most interesting! (your comments that is) with regard to your remark on my "grandeur" status, you should know that anyone assuming that sort of status( or posture) here in the NE would quickly be put in their place, we are a working class area and not posh like they are down South. A name is just a name aand yes I admit, my friends do not usually address me in such terms. Now as to the Fire Service Personel, I state quite catagorically that I believe them to be overpaid and probably, in the main underworked, furthermore any Fireperson who goes on strike and puts the safety of the Public in peril, is quite frankly in the wrong job, how can they possibly sleep at nights knowing that some child could lose their life, because they have left the job of firefighting to others, not trained to do the job as they are! I think a radical "shake up" of the Fire services is long overdue and the s! ooner the better, striking by the Fire Services should be made illegal.
Wise One
- Monday, June 09, 2003 at 10:56:21 (PDT)
PAUL WHITLEY BAY about the arcade i think there was a dry cleaners at church st end can any body tell me if the empire picture house is still open also the gaff'the gold lion 'engineers.vane arms' londonderry arms 'lord seaham andwhat happen to the old police station'the convent'catholic school up station road
harry hunter269 <@hotmail.com>
redcar, cleveland - Monday, June 09, 2003 at 10:54:56 (PDT)
Dear "friend" lets try for Friday again... but wait until at least 10.45pm for me.
your friend
- Monday, June 09, 2003 at 10:53:12 (PDT)
Dear Wise One (this term is usually used with delusions of grandeur). Why do you try to upset the Fire Service, they do a grand and dangerous job. Like you I do not agree with their strikes or their (what I believe is) unreasonable demands, but I do support their right to exercise their legal rights under our constitution. If you had ever had a child knocked down by a speeding motorist, you would change your mind about speed cameras. Unfortunately the police can only install them in proven black spots. Like you I am also up for putting them outside every school, I am also in favour of only using the 3D kind that points at the vehicles, so giving you no chance of slowing down. If the speed limit is a maximum of 30mph you should not be travelling at 31mph. In London it is being proposed to have 20mph speed limits in built up areas, that way the morons (with any luck) will cut their speed to 60mph. There is graffiti on a fence down the private path that leads from Parkside it reads, Kill a child not your speed, I hope you do not applaud its content. As you well know, the money from speed camera fines is by law put only into road safety measures. As for alienating the police, the only friendly Bobby I have seen was Dixon of Dock Green, and he was a make believe character. Dear JGG It saddens me to say that I must have been cured while I was not looking. Is there any way I can become re-infected? I miss the good old days. Regards TOM
Thomas S Moreland <dadmorland1@aol.com>
London, - Sunday, June 08, 2003 at 00:55:20 (PDT)
My "friend" I got up at work! Friday night traffic in Washington DC around the beltwayn and coming into Maryland is a real pain. I thought I would leave earlier but got caught up with overseeing a few issues. I am so sorry indeed. I got home a nd immediately put on the computer at 5.45pm that is 10.45pm your time - I must have just missed you. we need to figure out a time that works best for both of us. Did you get my voice mail from the message I left you from "friendsreunited" and the e-mail from "friendsreunited?" My recent photo is on "friendsreunited. Can't wait to talk to you. Try to let me know if another day will work for you.
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, June 08, 2003 at 00:52:32 (PDT)
"Paul of Whitley Bay" I remember the arcade that was at the top of Church Street. I remember there was a "wool" shop in it, as I use to go with my mom and grandma as they bought their wool from their to knit! Boy! Long gone are those days! You don't often hear of people knitting these days! Anyway.... wasn't a shop called "Dogherts" in that arcade?
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, June 08, 2003 at 00:51:56 (PDT)
Who send int eh message about the disease indentified as "BARS" That was a great article! Thanks for good humor and making us smile! Though, it is true, drinking can be very hazzardous to your own health and well being, as well as to others if one is careless.
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, June 08, 2003 at 00:50:54 (PDT)
: "Wise One" Yes, police in USA are exactly the same with regards to the speeding cameras. I have received a few speeding tickets myself over the years. Though, sometimes, in the small rural areas, I think to myself... "Do they have nothing better to do, than to be just "looking" for one to be speeding just 2 miles over the limit!" On Sunday mornings is where the police like to get people for speeding, as everyone is racing to Church - yes, even me! I am sometimes in a "speed!" because I really dislike being late for Mass. Anyway, I guess when people need the police, they are not always available!
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, June 08, 2003 at 00:49:57 (PDT)
one "friend" to another was waiting for you on Friday
a friend
- Friday, June 06, 2003 at 16:37:11 (PDT)
Now that the Greedy overpaid Fire services Personel have realised that they have been given a final offer and are back at work,(or in their firestation beds) can I ask what Guestbook users think of the Police Force and their use of speed cameras? Most of these cameras seem to be sited for maximum income rather than sited for safety purposes,like outside of Schools etc. instead of the devious methods adopted of hiding them behind bushes, trees, and other obstructions. there is a picture in this mornings newspapers of a police car parked illegally with a speed camera pointing out of the back window! Public confidence in the integrity of our Police is under strain! If you ring up to ask for assistance, they never have anyone available, probably because they're all out "revenue collecting" I thought that sort of thing went out with the Sheriff of Nottingham! Jacqueline are American Police the same?
Wise One
- Friday, June 06, 2003 at 16:36:32 (PDT)
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has just issued an urgent warning about a newly identified problem that has spread rapidly throughout the world.The disease, identified as BARS (Beer & Alcohol Requirement Syndrome) affects people of many different ages. Believed to have started in Ireland in 1500 BC, the disease seems to affect people who congregate in Pubs and Taverns or who just congregate. It is not known how the disease is transmitted but approximately three billion people world-wide are affected, with thousands of new cases appearing every day. Early symptoms of the disease include an uncontrollable urge at 5:00pm to consume a beer or alcoholic beverage. This urge is most keenly felt on Fridays. More advanced symptoms of the disease include talking loudly, singing off-key, aggression, heightened sexual attraction/confidence (even towards fuglies), uncalled for laughter,uncontrollable dancing and unprovoked arguing. In the final stages of the disease, victims are often cross-eyed, and speak incoherently. Vomiting, loss of memory, loss of balance, loss of clothing and loss of virginity can also occur. Sometimes death ensues, usually accompanied by the victim shouting, "Hey Fred, bet you can't do this!" or "Wanna see how fast it goes??" If you develop any of these symptoms, it is important that you quarantine yourself in a pub with fellow victims until last call or all the symptoms have passed. Sadly, it is reported that the disease can reappear at very short notice or at the latest, on the following Friday. Side effects for survivors include bruising, broken limbs, lost property, killer headaches and divorce. On the up side, there is not, and probably never will be, a permanent cure. Aaaahhh the bevvy ye canny whack it. Keep the faith
JGG
- Friday, June 06, 2003 at 16:35:01 (PDT)
I agree with Jacqueline(and that's not very often, in fact, I think for the first time), that the photos of 'The George Elmy Way' are quite good and I believe it is another useful way of reminding people of the courage of the crew of the lifboat in giving up their lives to rescue others. It was also nice to see that some of the children from the school had been invited to the opening of the plaque, but wasn't it very shortsighted of the committee deciding on this anme not to invite any of the immediate families of those crewmembers who so tragically gave up their lives?
agreewithmarkie
england - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:58:57 (PDT)
can anyone remember the arcade at the top of church street and what shops were in there?
paul
whitely bay, - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:57:02 (PDT)
Re. The Sunderland Echo (3/6/03). Its nice to read of the people of Seaham banding together to have the right of way to the shoreline over Dock Company property restored. Right is a mighty weapon, and all power to their elbow. It would be nice to venture onto the green wall without having to keep a close watch on the state of the tide. I thought it a little petulant of the Docks chief executive when he said, They will still not gain access to the North pier because it isnt safe. It reminder me of the childhood saying, Its my ball, and if you dont let me kick it I will take it in. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:55:47 (PDT)
: I am writing a book about the 1962 lifeboat disaster when the George Elmy overturned at the bar when rescuing the Economy. If anyone was around then or could give me any information that I might use I would be very greatful. Thanks George
George Laws <CrlGrys@aol.com>
Houghton le Spring, Durham Tyne and Wear - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:54:01 (PDT)
I am looking for someone who new my grandfather George Stephenson, or my mother, Margaret (Peggy) Early. Please email me if you rember these people from the early 1950's.
Michael Marshall <tomikem@shaw.ca>
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:51:36 (PDT)
George Laws - Thank you for your Local Hero Nomination. Please send your email address so that I can write to you directly.
Ed Mason <mace@daltonet.com>
Seaham, Durham UK - Thursday, June 05, 2003 at 15:49:44 (PDT)
Hi, I was looking at the photos of the "George Elmy Life-Boat" on the Seaham Harbor news and I should notice that a few of the children of Ropery Walk Elementry school were present. The first thing I noticed were the change in the uniforms. What a shame! And I truly mean that. What has happened to the traditional British school uniforms? I still have my Ropery Walk school Tie and Northlea school Tie. The uniforms when I attended school were neat, orderly and proper. I never complaint about having to wear the skirt, the shirt, the tie and the lovely sweaters and cardigans my mom or grandma would knit for me - The blazers of Northlea just finished the uniforms off beautifully. It is such a shame that the traditional British school uniforms have gone by the wayside. This is all the sign of the changing of the times. I am sure if I were to come back to England I would find life very different. England is not how I rememeber it to be... and I am not that old! Well, I su! ppose to some teenagers I may be old, but age is relative anyway. I think 1985 or so were the last of the "Old British" ways how I remember life to be back home. My mom was even telling me that St. John's Church no longer have a Sunday School or Youth group/Confirmation group - and no longer go Christmas Carol singing as we use to in the old days of the early 1980's. We use to sing at the Jubliee Center and around Seaham and then we would finish off at Jane Barker's home for hot drinks of tea. Those were really fun years back then. We young kids of St. John's church choir and Confirmation group use to have such a laugh! We were all so goofy and just funny! I could not sing for anything (and still cannot - I never sing in church to this day.. I just move my mouth, though at the hymns which are my favorite, I try to sing on key.) Anyway, I remember I would love to go to Choir practice on Wednesday evenings just to have fun - I was always up to some "mischief!" And Sundays at ! church - well... those were the best. Of course, I had a crush on actu ally two of the guys... so going to church for me was such a "smile" but I was so annoying and such an "ugly duckling" back then, my feelings would get hurt. Oh well... enough of the old days... Anyway, enjoyed looking at the photos. Have a super day everyone.. hope your weather is better than it is up here in the capital - Washington DC it has rained and it is slightly cold.... of course anywhere is cold after I have spent most of my time in Texas and just recently in Georgia. Hope I can get use to this weather again. Though, the summers here still do get so hot and very humid. Bye! And smile! :) Remember a "smile" can brighten up someone's day.
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, June 04, 2003 at 02:35:20 (PDT)
Hi, I would love to hear from any of my old pals who would like to get in touch. I went to Camden Square School from 1953 to 1957 then worked at Crompton & Harrison in the office. I married Alf Burrows in 1963 and left England for a while then when I returned I constantly moved and lost touch with everybody. I do visit my sister up Parkside fairly regularly but miss having my old pals to visit and maybe go out with for a drink and catch up on old times. So if you are inclined please drop me a line. Regards, Val Burrows
Val Burrows nee Foulds <valburrows@hotmail.com>
Norwich, Norfolk England - Wednesday, June 04, 2003 at 02:31:40 (PDT)
Kia Ora (Greetings) I have not had a chance to read through the comments on the M/B for quite a while but now that I have I thought I had better reply to Ted Leathers comments about racism in New Zealand. April 28 I thought it was common knowledge that N.Z. is a multi racial society where all races get on quite well. I have lived here over 20 years and cannot recall any instances of racism. You do get the occasional comment or joke (as you do in any society) but these are generally made and taken in humor. The populace of N.Z. is predominantly Pakea ( White European descent), then Maori, then Pacific Islanders ( Samoan, Tongan, Rarotongans, Fijians etc) with a liberal sprinkling of Dutch, South African, American, Asians, Indians, and our quota of refugees from Africa and elsewhere. You name them and they are represented here. Ted asks how many Maori friends I have and the answer would be lots, but the best Maori friend I have would be my wife. I also have Pacific Island, Indian, and Asian friends. I live in a nice little suburb in Wellington, and my immediate neighbors are a man from Birmingham married to a Samoan lady. On the other side a man from Essex married to a Pakea lady. Across the road a Liverpool woman married to a Maori man. So I would ask Ted where does he get his information from regarding outrageous racism in New Zealand. I would appreciate a reply as it is always interesting to read other peoples opinions and see where they get their facts from. To Not Thomas Johnson save your money- this all black team is looking really good I think Englands forwards will be superior but these all black backs will be too skillful and too fast for their English counterparts. It would be great to see England win the Rugby world cup but their backs will have to improve a lot. I think this is N.Zs year. One more thing before closing, quite a few people comment on certain users contributions to the M/B and seem to think it should only be used by people trying to get in touch with relatives and friends. If that were the case, then the comments on the board would be few and far between. I think there is enough room here for everybodys contributions as most of it makes fairly interesting reading. Also yes Billy I did forget to mention that excellent drink, surprisingly enough none of my Kiwi mates has ever heard of it. Must have only been marketed in Britain Finally to Colin here in Wellington I dont think you know me. I dont think weve ever met. Ka kite (goodbye)
Harbour Lad <ruru_geordie@paradise.net.nz>
wellington, new zealand - Monday, June 02, 2003 at 23:40:13 (PDT)
Hey... :) Hi "Wise One" How are you? Oh... please don't be too "grouchy" Don't let others spoil that wonderful sense of humor you have. Anyway, hope you are well. Don't forget to try to get that book I was telling you about. Well... in a few weeks I am going to see the professional Baseball game.. The Baltimore (Maryland) Orios play ..well... I forget which team now.. but it should be great! Baseball games are the only places where I will eat a HotDog! With ketchup and mustard and really enjoy the hotdog without concerning over the nutritious value. Oki-Doki... everyone... Have a nice day! And Smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, June 02, 2003 at 00:46:08 (PDT)
My "friend" I have had problems with my server on both those occasions, but will persevere, did enjoy our one to one, you have a great disposition and you are a credit to your Family
your friend
- Monday, June 02, 2003 at 00:20:11 (PDT)
Dearest Angry. Capital letters. They're not clever and they're not funny.
Cousin John
- Monday, June 02, 2003 at 00:17:40 (PDT)
Hi, I'm Denise Gray and I wish to make an ammendment to a notice I placed here on Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:51:22. With regard to the enquiry re: my husband's Aunt Florence Raine. The street where her bakery may have been should be Hill Street (No. 5) and her home in Princess Road.
Denise Gray <deniseevelyn@gray8320.freeserve.co.uk>
Spennymoor, Durham England - Monday, June 02, 2003 at 00:15:40 (PDT)
and I do admit I can be a bit grouchy at times!
Wise One
- Sunday, June 01, 2003 at 16:06:28 (PDT)
Dear Angry and Angry support, why dont you two "lighten" up a bit? you know reading your moaning letters is as bad as spending an hour in the Dentist's chair, or as bad as watching paint dry! but I'd rather read a hundred of your letters than spend an afternoon at the Stadium of Light watching SAFC, unless of course they were playing the Magpies! at least there'd be one team worth watching! so there are worse things in life than your letters, keep writing them, it is your right to do so, but angry you don't have to SHOUT all the time. I hate saying this but, "have a nice day"
Wise One
- Sunday, June 01, 2003 at 16:05:06 (PDT)
: "Wise One" I was on the "Chit-Chat" line on Friday May 30th from 5.25pm - 5.50pm (that is 10.25pm - 10.50pm your time) you were not there (for the second week)I hope you are well and everything is okay with you. Hope to talk to you soon. Take Care and God Bless. PS: Try to buy the book "The Prayer of Jabez" It is a best seller here in USA amongst Christians. It is a super book! Read it and it will change your life forever - for the better! :) Have a super week! :) byeeee....
You know me...your "friend"
USA - Saturday, May 31, 2003 at 00:22:41 (PDT)
Now now 'Angry'. With all the respect in the world I just want to say that perhaps you need to try to respect others a little more. This guestbook gives you the chance and the right to say what you feel but it also gives young Jacqueline the same right. Remember what God said to Abraham! The Good Lord reminds us all to be tolerant. God bless you.
Father Corrigan
- Friday, May 30, 2003 at 12:55:32 (PDT)
hear hear Angry, it's a real pain dredging through the mire of Jacqueline,Markie,Dr.Vix,Wise One,Manners etc. to get to the entries from people for whom this guestbook was made. I'm sorry Sadie, and Ed (and I do hope he is now well again), but it's about time you sorted this guestbook and banned the entries that do not comply with the original intent to their own 'chatbook'.
angry support
- Friday, May 30, 2003 at 12:54:38 (PDT)
Miss Markie, what is calling someone grouchy if its not a personal insult. Think America has meddled with your thinking.
an observer <bob@bob.com>
Seaham, england - Friday, May 30, 2003 at 12:53:41 (PDT)
JAQUELINE LEAVE THIS GUESTBOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A GENUINE PURPOSE TO USE IT. YOU MIGHT THINK YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH OR HAVE SOMETHING RELEVANT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR. IF THIS IS THE CASE YOU ARE WRONG. THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE IN SEAHAM AND ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH OLD MATES AND FAMILY. THIS OBVIOULSY MEANS A LOT TO THEM, IF THEY ARE TRYING TO USE THE GUESTBOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE. DONT RUIN THIS FOR THEM BY CONSTANTLY WRITING ABOUT THINGS THAT DONT RELATE OR BY ANSWERING BACK PEOPLE WHO DONT SHARE YOUR OWN OPINIONS. YOU ARE SELFISH, CHILDISH AND ARE DENYING PEOPLE THE PROPER USE OF THIS BOOK. PLEASE PLEASE STOP. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE THINGS YOU WANT TO SAY BUT PLEAE USE SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE NET. FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE A CONNECTION WITH SEAHAM YOU ARE RUINING SOMETHING THAT COULD BE QUITE SPECIAL. THANKYOU.
angry
- Thursday, May 29, 2003 at 13:13:32 (PDT)
I am trying to trace my family tree and I am looking for info on my grandfathers family. His name was Edward Magee/McGee he was married to Mary Mossman and they had children called, Elizabeth, Florence, Thomas, Ronald, Robert, Mary, Mildred, Doris and Ella. If anyone knows anything about them could you please contact me. Thanx
Liz Fairns <scotiabluebell@hotmail.com>
Renfrew Scotland - Thursday, May 29, 2003 at 13:12:15 (PDT)
Hi, a really nice page you have. Want you left some greetings ;o)
Martin Stein <martin-stein@yahoo.com>
Leipzig, Sachsen Deutschland - Monday, May 26, 2003 at 11:15:09 (PDT)
Dr Vix, Don't think I'd like you behind me in the scrum, but to get to more serious matters, at last I've found some "common ground" on which Miss Manners and Jacqueline and I agree whole heartedly, that is the selfishness of smokers passing on their second hand smoke to others! indeed people who smoke in confined places, particularly in the presence of Children and their spouses are callous in the extreme and as many non smokers die from the effects of prolonged exposure to second hand smoke, they are guilty of Manslaughter to a degree. So what we need and we need now is for a law to be passed, somewhat on the lines of the recent law passed in the USA banning such selfish practices
Wise One
- Monday, May 26, 2003 at 02:21:24 (PDT)
"Victoria" As another perspective to your opinion on the proper "behavior" of women. If the young boys/young men of today's society only see the behavior of women who do not take too kindly to men coming to their defense, and hear women tell men to "shut their yap." Or, "Don't come to my defense I can defend myself." Or, "you don't have to keep the door open for me I am not useless" etc... and if young boys and young men today hear only women speaking in rather a "rough" tone of voice and with an "attitiude." Then, tell me... How will young boys and young men of today's society learn how to "Respect" women? And learn how to properely treat a woman with gentleness and dignity? The men I have mostly dated and whom I have as friends, don't even swear around us ladies, or if they do, they apologise for it. For they know that my friends and I are refined women with dignity. Women set the standards of how men will treat them. If a woman comes across as wanting to be trea! ted as one of the "boys" then the men will indeed swear around the women, tell crude jokes around the women and rarely will come to the defense of a woman. However, if a woman sets the standards of wanting to be treated "a lady" then the man will indeed have the highest regards and respect and dignity for the woman. If you disagree with me, that is okay, as we are all entitled to our own opinions and all of us have to live the way that is "right for us" as individuals. But my experience of living in an environment with refined men for the past 16 years, and an environment where women are refined,I can honestly tell you, I am treated very nicely from all men... even those who I think are total "rich jerks!" Those men know for a fact that they cannot "buy" me and I stick by my convictions. They may get mad at me, but they have respect for me and they know for a fact, that I am not a "one night stand" so to speak. I set the standards of how men treat me, by the way I treat mys! elf and the man. I think it is very sad in today's society how young m en and boys no longer know the "proper" way to treat a young lady - they are given mixed messages.
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, May 26, 2003 at 02:20:09 (PDT)
I feel compelled to respond to your ideas on how women should behave though, 'cause they astound me. I run for miles over the hills round where I live, 'cause I'm doing the Great North run this year, and I end up looking like hell. I don't need or want a man to come to my defense. The last time my boyfriend tried to speak for me I told him to shut his big yap 'cause I can speak for myself. And I've recently started playing rugby. But I don't think that makes me hideously unfeminine.
dr vix <drvmccabe@aol.com>
aberdeen, - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:11:35 (PDT)
Jonta, you dont miss much. It is indeed I. Sorry for the delay, been away for eight weeks with our old mate from No.51. Email me, I will be in Seaham early June.
MacT <mactabash@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:10:05 (PDT)
"Miss Manners" when I make comments to this Guest Book I do not personally insult an individual as you do with me. I have had a few of my entries "censored" but I have not complained or written an insulting note back to Ed or Sadie, I just realized that both Ed and Sadie use their own good judgement and decide it is best not to post some things. Though very rarely are my entries not published on to the G/B - that is because I contribute to this guest book without making personal insults. Also, what is wrong with discussing politics and religion and contraversial issues? Also, reminising about the "old days" at school. I could tell many funny stories about my school days and the "church choir!" The things we got up to - My-Oh-My!I remember one Sunday at church, during the prayers, we were suppose to have our eyes closed of course, as we were praying, however, none of us pre-teens or teens would close our eyes, we would look around and see what things we could laugh ! about. Well, I saw one boy who was just really having a good pick at his nose. "Wise One" actually knows this boy... Anyway, me and another girl just laughed and laughed and then Kitty Sparey got all upset with us......... Anyway, "Miss Manners" you should try not to be so grouchy and "lighten up!" Have a nice day! Smile :)
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:09:08 (PDT)
"Wise One" I think you may be "J" ............Anyway, thank you for reminding me how to spell "Defence" the British way. I had forgot! Whoops! I guess I have become "Americanized." ........... Anyway, Sorry, I did not mean to come across as saying that in any of your entries you have been "offensive" to ladies. I was just merely commenting that I admire your effort of respect to women (especially to those who have annoyed you) As I did know you years ago, it has now just occured to me that you are now almost 37 yrs old - of course you are above and beyond maturity than when I knew you way back when - many years ago. You really have turned out a really nice young gentleman - despite some of our disagreements - you are not too bad :) Have a super day!
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:07:37 (PDT)
Smoking health risks to one side, what about the smell? All smokers should be lined up and sprayed with a muck spreader. They may then get some idea of how bad a smell they leave everywhere. On a lighter note, (no pun intended) when are the two lovebirds getting together my hat is still waiting?
Cilla
Liverpool, - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:06:24 (PDT)
My uncle was Fed Gippert the second Coxswaine on the George Elmy. This man waa a hero. As a member of the RLSS I have saved the lives of five people so I don't use the term hero lightly. This man went out to sea after working nightshift and he rescued the people on the Econamy. I know this for a fact. I have read many accounts of the incedant and not many remember my uncle. After the George Elmy turned over he swam for the Blast. The waves threw him against the rocks and he fractured his skull. Despite this he made it to te blast. There he died of exposiea. Tell me he wasn't a hero, tell me that Elsie shouldn't be the proudest widow that ever lived. My name is George Laws, My mother's maden name was Jean Gippert, and I think that Fread Gippert is a Hero. I also think tha the people that opened the George Elmy Road are a bunch of hippocrits. As an English teacher I feel I must right a book about the events leading up to the disaster putting matters stra! ight.
George Laws
Houghton-Le-Spring, - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:05:28 (PDT)
Wise One, With reference to smoking in public places. I agree no one should be subject to passive smoking but there should be a room set aside for the smokers. EVEN LEPERS HAD COLONIES. I don't want to share my smoke with non smokers. Do you know how much cigs cost. let them buy their own I say.
Sal
- Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:03:18 (PDT)
Hi, would love to hear from anyone who knew me from my time in Seaham. I was born 1952 and lived in Seaham until approx 1968. I attended SMS and later moved to S/land before migrating to Aus during 1980.
Malcolm Kennedy <kenso@peninsula.hotkey.net.au>
Langwarrin, Melbourne, Victoria 3910 Australia - Sunday, May 25, 2003 at 00:00:32 (PDT)
This is a great website. Greetings. buscadores
buscadores <info@buscadores.com>
USA - Friday, May 23, 2003 at 15:16:22 (PDT)
Sadie Mason first I must apolgize to Mr Mason about calling him a chauvinist.Your comment to think about it which I did and I still cannot understand your censor of my entry dated May 21 2003 @6.31(PDT)to which you said had nothing to do with men or women and the insults went to far.I am glad you did decide to add it to the guestbook as a lot worse is printed on this guestbook including from Markie who entries are constantly socially offensive to most of the readers who do not wish to hear about her constant rumblings about religion and politics please if you would look back on all the entries from people who have decided to not come back to this guestbook and are not above naming Markie as the reason ,yet you let her inane ramblings continue without censorship.I would like to say to Sadie Mason think about it.
Miss Manners
- Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:08:37 (PDT)
I'm very sorry to hear that Mr Hodgson has passed away. He'd have loved this guest book - he liked a bit of drama!
Father Corrigan
- Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:07:19 (PDT)
"Wise One" "J"... I will not be on "Chit-Chat" line this Friday as I am going out... hope you have a super day! Also, I left you a message on your "friendsreunited" voice mail last - hope you got it. Take care.. hope to talk to you in a few weeks.
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:06:40 (PDT)
"Wise One" if you are who you say you are.. then you know very well I do not smoke at all! In fact, I can't stand the smell of smoke - I also think it is very unlady like and very unhealthy. My dear mom still smokes to this day and there was a time I was always asking her to please stop - it really is not very attractive on either women or men to be smoking. It makes all your clothes and your hair and breath smell. Besides, which it is expensive and can cause lung cancer and people who smoke do age more progessively than those who don't smoke as well as they are not as physically heathly as those who do not smoke................................. Now to the banning of smoking in public places, Which makes me think this "Wise One" entry is an American, because they have not banned smoking in public places, bars in England. I think this "Wise One" entry is a guy named Phil, who knows very well I cannot stand smoking. Actually, for those who do smoke I do think it is u! nfair that the government are banning smoking in bars - as that is a place where people go to socialize - I think the government are taking things a bit too far. So "Wise One" who on earth are you this time? Or you "J" or are you "P" are are you the last name with "R"? I think I have a right to know.
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:05:57 (PDT)
Miss Manners, why don't you lighten up a wee bit pet? if you can't take the repartee's you shouldn't be on here! I suppose I have a typical NE humour which may be a little strong for some, but theres no need for you to take umbrage is there? now certain people on this Guestbook have entered the fray as it were, and when they have been mildly reprimanded they have "taken their bat and ball in" and took off! certain expats from Spain Oz and NZ spring to mind. Now Jacqueline is a different kettle of fish (no insult meant Miss Markie) she takes it (well most of the flack anyway) on the chin and responds in a diplomatic manner(theres that word again) you could Miss Manners learn a few things from her! like turning the other cheek. For myself I never take offence except at extreme utterings and I haven't seen any that offend me yet! now that "struck out" entry of yours, boy would I have liked to have read that, I would no doubt, have had a good laugh at it, ! one final word (for now that is) Jacqueline we spell defence with a c not an s and ps have read and re-read my entry and can't see where I've ever tried shown disrespect to Ladies.
Wise One
- Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:04:23 (PDT)
Markie as I have already said I do not need you to came to my defence. as for your acts of narcissism when I said you were childlike I was not describing your looks my dear but your intellect, as for why god made women it was not as you stated but god made the first woman Eve as a help unto Adam himselfI do not as a norm talk about religion on these type of forums as I don't believe they belong here but religion has really not been fair to women because men on a whole have thought women to be subserviant that is why the catholic church does not allow women prists(I was brought up as catholic)enough of religion I will not comment on your description of me as would bring me down to your tit for tat level please markie grow up
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:02:58 (PDT)
: Wise One I do believe that all smoking should be banned inside of all public buildings and should only be allowed in outside area's.I myself have never smoked but everyone else in my family were smokers ,I even married a smoker but he quit a long time ago.I have children who smoke and no matter what I say they won't quit,but they do not smoke in my home as it is a no smoking zone.Second hand smoke is even worse for your health .My uncle had lung cancer from smoking and was told to quit but he never did and every one used to say oh let him smoke it's too late to stop now .He died five years ago and now his wife has lung cancer and she never smoked in her life it was caused by second hand smoke.I really get angry when I see people in a car with the windows rolled up smoking while they have kids inside I really feel that is child abuse .The smoker is the one polluting so let him/her go outside and keep the inside of buildings free of smoke
Miss Manners
- Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:01:30 (PDT)
For months (maybe years) I have skipped over the the rubbish submitted to the GB by Markie, miss Manners, Wise One and a few others. I have had enough of Markies ravings and calling it quits, they win, I will not visit this again.
C.b.
Toronto, Canada - Friday, May 23, 2003 at 01:00:19 (PDT)
Does anyone on the g/book have any views on passive smoking and whether smoking should be banned in Cafes and other public places? How about Miss Manners and Jacqueline? do you have anything to say about it? or do you smoke cigs or even a pipe?
Wise One
- Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 02:20:22 (PDT)
"Miss Manners!" How could you? After I come to your defense - you then accuse me of being "child-like?" Let me tell you, I am one very strong (inner-strength) young woman. I am not a quiet little scared timid mouse! Nor, am I a doormat for men to walk all over. I am however, very dainty, and petite, I love to smile and be happy and find fun things to do in life that are positive and fun! And be around fun, happy people. I do keep that "Angelic" side that God's designs for us women to have and the "angelic" side that men like in a woman. Men like their women to not only be confident, and self-sufficent and to know what they want from life, but they also like women who are "ladies" and enlightening and refreshing! A man, who is a "gentleman" likes to feel he can take care of a lady and the lady ought to accept that with grace - It is a beautiful thing when a man comes to the defense of a woman. That was God's original purpose for how men ought to treat a lady. Of cou! rse, nowadays, some woman just want to be so "manly" consequently, some men today have no idea how to treat a lady with eloquency and dignity. I happen to admire "Mr. Wise One" for his effort of respect for women. I can be a handful, yet, he is patient and tactful. And maybe he likes that "child-likeness" in women. You ought to try not to be such a "tough rumble" and be more dainty then maybe "Wise One" will come to your defense. Have a super friendly day! And Smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 02:19:48 (PDT)
I wonder what would of happened if it had been three wise women instead of three wise men? Despite a star in the sky, the ladies would have asked directions. They would have arrived on time. Helped deliver the baby. Cleaned the stable. Brought practical gifts and made a hot casserole. And you can imagine the conversation as they left the stable. Good grief! What a dump Did you see those sandals Mary was wearing with that gown Can you believe they let all those disgusting animals in there That donkey they ride has seen better days I bet we never see that casserole dish again
Isaac
- Thursday, May 22, 2003 at 02:18:06 (PDT)
To Miss Manners, Mr Mason did not censor your entry I did. It had nothing to do with men or women. Perhaps the insults went a bit far, Think about it.
Sadie Mason
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 23:59:32 (PDT)
Markie I also am not afraid to speak my mind,I also don't care if they disagree with me.I guess that is why you respond to my entries. I am only negative to people that bore me with nonsense like you,I am only negative to people like you who dish it out but can't take it back.I do not need you to come to my defence as I wrote an entry to Wise One about his put down on women but I guess Mr Mason is a chauvinist as well as he did not post my entry.OOPS I guess now I won't get this one posted.
Miss Manners
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 23:57:16 (PDT)
So sorry to hear Mr Hodgson has passed away, he was a Man of the highest integrity. RIP
Wise One
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 23:56:08 (PDT)
No Jacqueline, I was not suggesting that Men are more intellectually blessed than Woman, the correct pronounciation is of course "Manners maketh the Man!" The term "Wo(man)" means Woman and Man, and whilst I may be guilty of debasing a fine language, no insult to Womanhood was intended some of my best friends are Women, incidently a lot of your American friends have been debasing the English language for years now, but thats another story, I also count you as a friend. I won't say "have a nice day" but I will wish you and all guestbook users all the best!
Wise One
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 23:55:22 (PDT)
Very nice pictures of the new Road Opening.It would be nice to see more pictures of other new developments in the area
Miss Manners
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 23:54:23 (PDT)
Excuse me Wise one but in this day and age women do not sit behind a man tittering on about sewing cooking and good manners so I am sorry but it is not manners that make a women but it is the women herself who maketh a women . You call me abrasive yet you hardly have a decent word to say about anyone and yet you are always ready to stick up for Markie.It must be because she is a childlike women that men of your culture (brute like) only can handle.
Miss Manners
- Wednesday, May 21, 2003 at 06:31:03 (PDT)
Jacqueline, Mr Hodgson (drama) died a few years ago.
The Captain <captainfantastic@tashtown.co.uk>
Tashtown, - Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 00:55:56 (PDT)
"Miss Manners" if you were so "Miss Manners" then you would know it is not correct at all to address someone, no matter who it is, by just their last name, without a "Mr. Mrs. Ms. Or Miss" in front of their last name. My name is "Miss. Markie" or "Jacqueline." Also, people give me a hard time on this G/B because I am not afraid to speak my own opinions - I don't care if people disagree with me in regards to my opinions - that is why people are making responses to my comments, as they are responding to the fact they disagree. You know, for being "Miss Manners" You are not a very optemistic person are you? You are actually rather negative in regards to people and life in general. Miss Manners, why don't you try to find the positive in people and in life. And by the way, I came to your defense to "Wise One" as the individual appeared to be suggesting that men are more superior to women - of course we all know that is not true. Anyway, have a super day! and Smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 00:51:49 (PDT)
"Wise One" what was that last part of your commet to "Miss Manners" about "Wo(man)? Are you making a slight suggestion that men are more superior than us women? Ooooh, you have just dropped yourself in it! Because though I am not a huge "feminist" I am a very strong advocate not only for Human Rights, but also for the rights of us "Women." Let me tell you, if it were not for women being on this earth, the world would not survive - remember it is us women who have the children - not the men. Also if it were not for women, men would have rather a hard time surviving without whinning like babies. All in all, I really beleive women have a whole lot more inner-strenght than men do. Why do you think God gave to Adam a woman (Eve)? Because God knew men needed women to help them survive in the world. When God gave Adam woman, he said that is "good." We, men and women are equal in different ways - A man is not superior to a woman,(Nor, should he ever feel that way.) In the ! same way a woman, (nor should a woman) feel superior to a man. Have a nice day "Wise One." .... Also, "Wise One" when did you get to be so wise... Some of your comments on this guest book suggest you may indeed have been given a good education. Though, I think you always had the brains, but you did not always use them too well - I think it was always your brother who was more intellectual. You just seemed to "float" around.... Anyway, have a super week... smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 00:50:04 (PDT)
We would just like to thank everybody who came to the gig at the Golden lion on Saturday 17th of May and made it the huge success it was. We had such a good time we are going to do it all over again this Sunday 25th of May. THANKYOU
Hapy the Man
Seaham, - Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 00:47:52 (PDT)
Message to our troops (Alliance) The Alliance is so proud of you, and how very brave you are The sacrifices you have made--for freedoms sake afar The dedication in your heart shows plainly in your eyes We pray your safety every day--on ships, on land and skies In fear we watch the job you do--the chances you must take Determination--plain to see--all for freedoms sake Life is Fragile--PLEASE take care, GOD loves you, so do we We pray your safety for we know "Freedom isn't free" Just know your country loves you--so grateful for all you do In prayers to God we're asking---that He brings you safely through GOD BLESS YOU --EACH AND EVERY ONE HIS LOVE --AND PRESENCE TOO May He protect and bring you home -- The Alliance IS PROUD OF YOU
Wise One
- Tuesday, May 20, 2003 at 00:46:31 (PDT)
Miss Manners, now we have you "sticking up" for that expat (T from S) besides a Mr Johnson (not) You really don't have to be so abrasive, remember Manners maketh the Wo(man)
Wise One
- Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:33:07 (PDT)
"Wise One" I was online "chat" line on Friday from your time 10.15 - 10.45pm you were not there, but "Not Thomas Johnson" was for a few minutes. he wanted to know your name as he wants to speak to you. Very Important!
you know who I am.. "J"
USA - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:32:24 (PDT)
Tom Moreland, really enjoyed reading your letter of 14th May, yes the beach is cleaning up nicely, but there is still some way to go, what I would like to see is all of the facilities open to the Public including those that the Dock Company have denied us access too.
Wise One
- Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:21:34 (PDT)
: "Norman Brooks Hamster" you were talking about why don't we reminise about school days, I was just sitting here reading your comment and I got a flash-back from school(Seaham Comprehensive) in 1983 I was on the school drama club and we did this stupid musical/play called "Dracular Spectacular." Oh my gosh! When I think back, it really was just so silly! Though I remember Gillian Wilson played a good part as Dracular's wife or something. Whatever happened to that Drama teacher, Mr. Hodgson? I did not really like him, he thought I was too fussy and miss prissy.. but I suppose he did a good job with the drama department.
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:20:47 (PDT)
I guess there must not be anything exciting or anything worth publishing about in Seaham as I sometimes click on the "Harbor Happenings" and y'all are still in 2002 and here we are almost to the half of the year 2003. Anyway, we are always quick to go and offer to help and liberate other coutries who seem to make it a 'religious issue' - so then why are we not quick to go and liberate the Leboneese Christians from the Syrians - they are under such dictatorship and have their Human Rights violated. The same as the Sudaneese they are being slautered by the Muslims. How sad we do not liberate Christians.
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:19:44 (PDT)
JM, you continually take the art of self-contradiction to ever higher levels. To say will ignore and not insult a person then go on to call them, plain, narrow minded and rude all in the same sentence is exceptional even by your standards. On a personal basis I enjoy reading your comments and the inevitable verbal onslaught that follows.
Isaac
- Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:18:41 (PDT)
I saw the article from Tom Moreland. His comments about the blast area made me sit up and take notice. My father, up there or down there ( he was an angel and a devil, mostly the nice kind of both)will be so upset that his beloved BLAST has been tampered with for good or bad. He told so many stories about the Blast I can't remember one of them.We lived in Seaham,he was a fireman and ambulance driver and his favorite place to walk to and spend his leisure time around was the Blast. He would take his dog, Poogie who would take off by himself and meet up again with Dad around the other side of some rocks. They both loved it and if that place is now haunted you can be sure it's WEP who is keeping watch over his beloved BLAST.
Julie
Bucks County, USA - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:17:54 (PDT)
good to see seaham on the net. i lived in seaton village before i got married.
j trotter <j..trotter@sympatico.ca>
brampton, ontario canada - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:16:39 (PDT)
Markie before you make anymore comments about my remarks about you .You really should peruse your entries where you make awful remarks about people who don't agree with you .Also while your at it peruse what 90% of the guestbook readers have to say about you.I am afraid its all negative but you just don't get the message do you.
Miss Manners
Canada - Sunday, May 18, 2003 at 00:14:38 (PDT)
To Oz Brian, I sent you an e mail. Did you receive it?. If so could you please acknowledge. Thanks Sadie.
Sadie Mason
Seaham, Durham UK - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:57:25 (PDT)
Miss Manners, I will ingore your comment and not make an insulting one back to you as I would really like to, but I will not stoop to your level of being a plain downright narrow minded rude person. Also, I seem to remember Ed Mason saying that we are not suppose to be making personal insults to others on this Guest Book. I think you are breaking one of the rules. Anyway, why don't you just have a nice day and smile! :) Go and "chit-chat" about something else, instead of about someone else.
Jacqueline
USA - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:55:11 (PDT)
I often check in on the guest book to see who is writing in and what they have to say .I am afraid when I see the long self serving messages from the Markie women I tune right back out which I would of again today except I saw Tom Morlands message .Tom is a longtime friend of my family and it was really nice to read his impressions of Seaham .I have not been back home since my mother passed away on Aug 1998 so it was really nice to hear about Seaham instead of reading how blessed and happy Markie is with herself.Thankyou Tom I enjoyed your message please say hi to your wife and a big hello to the rest of your family
Lilian Smith/McAvinnie
Canada - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:54:21 (PDT)
As I have lived in Seaham all my life and am only twenty years old, I feel it would be unfair to comment on previous G.B issues. I would like to say it is dramatic, how much the town has changed in such a short period of time. The schools I had pleasure going to was Ropery Walk Primary, then Seaham School, now know as the excellent Seaham School of Technology for all of it's state of the art equipment. If anybody knows of my family the Wright's, Cravers or Cummins from Seaham from 1982 onwards please get in touch. A comment I would like to make is that the attitudes from some people from the town is strange, either for or aganist the new link road through the harbour. The new industrial estates soon will create a lot of opportunties for the unemployed as several call centre's opening in the area. Fianlly what I would like to say to the people against change is give it a chance and you may be surprised in the outcome!
Christopher Wright <Npoweryourself@aol.com>
Seaham, Durham United Kingdom - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:52:45 (PDT)
Jacqueline, Wise One. I am so excited. Can I get my hat out. Wish you both a lorra lorra luck.
Cilla
Liverpool, - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:50:33 (PDT)
Just found this site. Reading through the guest book I came across the name Tabash. That must be you BB? Where are you? Last I heard you were in somewhere in Africa. If this is you I would love to get back in touch. Loads to tell you.
Jonta
- Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 01:49:49 (PDT)
To Tony from Spain everything you said about Markie is true and no I don,t happen to agree she put you in your place .She does not have the brains to put anyone in their place She comes across as a self centred hopeless and childish girl
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:46:51 (PDT)
I would love to be able to chat online but I can never seem to find a time that is right. Maybe you could extend the time frames as they are not at all convienent for us ex-pats in Australia
Janet Smith <janetsmith10@bigpond.com>
warnbro, wa auatralia - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:46:02 (PDT)
My wife and I were in the Harbour last weekend, and I was astounded at the change within the area I grew up in. Half of Parkside has gone missing? The council have at long last built a trunk road along the dock top that should have been constructed 30 years ago, and the amount of factories to the south side of Dawdon is just amazing. The biggest change in the area is on the Blast beach. I recall the bleakness of this area when we played on the foreshore as children, and when I fished from it as an adult; there is just no comparison between then and now. I knew the northerly swells would move the mining shale over time but never thought the change would happen so quickly. The cleanliness of the area around Noses Point brought a lump to my throat, and a tear to my ear. While out on Saturday night, my wife (a Cockney lass) was astounded at the statement from one woman to another, Uts all reet hiney, all just hev a glass a wata. After translating the declaration, she now repeats the quotation on an hourly basis. Best regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:44:27 (PDT)
George48; today I'm at peace with the World and I turneth the other cheek Mate! but you're right, I am betwix 6 and 70 (somewhere in the middle)
Wise One
- Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:42:09 (PDT)
Seahams very own indie legends HAPPY THE MAN are performing at the Golden lion Saturday 17th of May. No cover charge. New album and 5 track ep available at the gig.
Mr Happy
Seaham, - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:41:25 (PDT)
To "wise One" I have again just read your message to me, and you gave me such a beautiful note - thank you so much!!! I do try very hard not to be prideful or boastful. Now what about you.. your note suggests too, that perhaps you are feeling a little "discontented" with life. I hope not. Remember we all take different paths. I moved away because I just felt it was the right thing to do many years ago... and I really just put my life in God's hands. God is in control, but we also have "free-will" to make our own decisions and choices. I have not always made the right choices in my life as an adult, I have goofed up many times. Gosh I have even turned down two proposals! Both guys were rather "well-to-do" one was Catholic, one was not. One I totally was in love with, back in 1992 at college over here. The other I just liked as a friend. However, both men would have been able to have given me a life of total wealth! I turned both down because the time was just not right for me.(besides, money is not that important - but God is!) Now I am regretting turning down the proposals as here I am 34 ! yrs old, still single and still have no children - but oh well!! Life goes on and you make the best of it. God always has a purpose for you, if you search for the purpose - and I am very happy doing what I do with Human Rights and caring for the poor and children and then having fun with friends, eating, attending cultural events, traveling, and some sports. Life being single in USA is rather adventures and my group of friends are all reserved, conservative and just a nice fun group! Anyway, "Wise One" you are a nice person, very forgiving, and really a nice guy.. you also have talents too and I know you are a good person with a lot to offer to society. You are also successful. Don't be too hard on yourself and ignore some of the negative comments you get on this guest book - I do! Most of us enjoy your comments, Besides, we need a variety of comments of all kinds - that is what keeps this G/B going. We all enjoy it, otherwise we would be contributing to it. Be happy, smile! and just pray each day to God for his blessings. Have a super day! PS : you can e-mail me if you wish.
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 13:02:21 (PDT)
I was born at Gregson Terr. went to Byron Tce School and then Seaham Secondry Modern. I used to be called Haswell, if there's is any 65 yr old school mates out there drop me an e mail
Lilian Lincoln <LillianLincoln@msn.com>
Billingham, England - Sunday, May 11, 2003 at 06:37:33 (PDT)
I am looking for any ancestral info on the families of Michael REAY and Ellen SNOWBALL they were married in 1875 at Christ Church New Seaham. Fathers of both were William. Any help or pointers gratefully received!
Sue <bdsen@dcsi.net.au>
Australia - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:19:51 (PDT)
: "Wise One" enjoyed our visit - thank you.
Jacqueline
USA - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:18:55 (PDT)
Sorry but I forgot to mention that she lived there approximatley, between 1920 to 1931. (Florence Raine)
Denise Gray <deniseevelyn@gray8320.freeserve.co.uk>
Spennymoor, Durham England - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:18:12 (PDT)
Jacqueline, You are obviously and quite rightly proud of yourself. when you are proud of yourself, you show it, you feel it and you know it. It shines in your eyes and the way that you speak and the way that you carry your very being. You are proud because you could and you did, you can and you will, you cannot but know it and it is OK. when you are proud you do, give and share, rather than take, pride is peaceful service to God and you Neighbor, joy-filled sharing, inner knowing that there is more to come. Pride does not argue to be right, push to get ahead, step over others to get there and once there forget about them, pride is gentle, calm and balanced, it is not boastful, frightened or hurried, pride is pleasant pride is grateful. Pride is peaceful patient and poised, pride is secure, but most of all (and this bit is for Tony) pride is silent
Wise One
- Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:16:50 (PDT)
Wise one i think not. with all the time on his hands he must be on the Dole. Or could be retired at the age of whatever he thinks he is six going on seventy.
George 48
Seaham, - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:15:20 (PDT)
Hello everyone, Is there anyone out there who remembers a Florence Raine, my husbands auntie, who had a Bakery in Caroline Street. She was an Artist as well and sold some of her paintings localy. Please get back to me if you do or leave a message on this guest book.
Denise <deniseevelyn@gray8320.freeserve.co.uk>
Spennymoor, Durham England - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:14:29 (PDT)
Miss Manners, nice to see you're still around! what have you been doing? have you got yourself "fixed" with a well heeled Yank from across the border? you have a lot to offer to this guestbook, miss your straight talking, so come on get to it Lass.
Wise One
- Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 16:12:13 (PDT)
Tony from Spain, You'll never change it seems from your "moaning Minnie" attitude. I must have touched a raw nerve! M/s Markie did put you in your place, anyone can see that,except you. I would suggest that Spain is the wrong place for you to be, you should be Down/under with the rest of the "moaning Pommies".
Wise One
- Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 23:23:19 (PDT)
: "Wise One" Yes I think I know who you are. now... It is to myself. I was the class of 1985 and finished college in '87 That is when I first started living overseas; and has been rather fun since.. with of course the "Tests" and "Challenges" God gives to me now and then. However, I am puzzled, as to if it was you who made the comment on April 25th - How on earth would you know I was in Liberty Hill Texas for the Easter weekend.. and why are you giving me a hard time about being Judgemental and giving me a "lecture" about what God really expects from his people. I know, I know, I can be a bit judging at times, I know I have high (sometimes unrealistic) expectations of myself and others - but oh well! That is me! Maybe that is why I am still single - but God always has a plan for everyone and maybe the right young man just hasn't came my way yet. Maybe God is busy "molding" him for me. Maybe, just maybe this summer up in Washington DC (the Capital) I may happen to bum! p into Mr. Right at Mass or maybe at some of my Political Human Rights seminars or whatever...maybe I may even meet him in the park whilst I enjoy a run - who knows? Only God knows. (Anyway, maybe that was someone else signing their name as "Wise-One" who made that comment to me.) Oki Doki, need to be off for now... Not sure I can make it on "Chit-Chat" line this Friday, will try again next or some Friday during the summer. Enjoy your comments too. Take care and God Bless.
Jacqueline
USA - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 23:22:12 (PDT)
hello to all people in seaham if anyone knows me just mail me at stepbunts@yahoo.co.uk
stephen Bunts <stepbunts@yahoo.co.uk>
seaham, durham - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 23:19:06 (PDT)
Way to go Wise One you seem to have Markie up in arms I like that
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 23:17:55 (PDT)
Markie- The only thing I have ever complained about are your too frequent political and religious boring rantings on the G.B. you only have to scan back to see that I'am not alone in my criticisms. As for you, so called 'wise one',it would take a very clever person to discover any words of wisdom you have ever posted on the G.B. a typical example of your unwise silly comments is that I have 'been put in my place' by Markie,I'am afraid it will take a lot more than she is capable of to do that. Adios
Tony from Spain
Espana - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:55:30 (PDT)
Hello, I am looking for a phlebotomy school, or traing center here in my area. Not a four year college. Thank you
Treva C <dcfiness@hotmail.com>
Bowie, Prince Gorges County USA - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:54:22 (PDT)
Norman Brooke Hamster, Yes Norman, your letter of 5th May sure had the desired effect! it sure made me laugh.
Wise One
- Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:52:51 (PDT)
Jacqueline, think you know who I am and ask to keep it to yourself I left School a little before you (believe you left in 86? or was it 87?) have memories of SJCC. you once said I had a wicked sense of humor, enjoy reading your articles, don't always agree with what you say, but you can still give "short thrift" to your critics, Good luck and God bless,
Wise One
- Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:52:21 (PDT)
I wonder if anyone can help my husband, David. He is trying to find any information on one of his Aunties Florence Raine, who lived in Seaham roughly between 1910 and 1931. She had a bakery shop in Caroline Street and was also an Artist - we know that she sold some of her paintings. The Raine family consisted of Isobelle, Eadith, Florence, Hannah, William and Hilda (David's mum). So if you know of or have seen any paintings signed by Florence Raine, or if any of the names mentioned ring a bell, we would love to hear from you. With many thanks and I will keep this site on my Favourites Denise Gray.
Denise Gray <deniseevelyn@gray8320.freeserve.co.uk>
Kirk Merrington, Spennymoor England - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 01:51:22 (PDT)
Okay "Wise One".... In case I do not make it on the chat line at 10.30pm British Standard Time, as that will be afternoon/evening time for me, would you just mind; and having the courtesy to tell me who you are? If you are wanting to continue to play goofy games, then do me the favor of giving out more clues. If I was getting warmer... when I used the last name of "R" or the British name of "John" and I am getting warmer.. then who exactly are you? Do I know you from school? Are you in my age group? or, are you that American I am thinking you are.. This is unfair you know; and it is bugging me. Oh Well! Hope you haev a super week... Remember to smile! :) And to thank God for your blessings.
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 23:48:30 (PDT)
To "Norman Brooke Hamster" Now why is it that I am always given a "hard time" over my opinions and contributions to our Guest Book? It is beyond me! I guess because I am the one of the only few who is "gutsy" enough to just say what it is that I think and still don't care what other have to say. I mean does everyone have to have the exact same thoughts on issues? I don't think so... Oh well... "Hamster" keep on with your immature insults... I don't care.. have a nice day!
jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 23:47:17 (PDT)
To "Tony from Spain" well Mr Tony, you've sure been "put in your place" by M/s Markie, so why dont you change your ways you "grumpy grouch" or are you waiting for a visit from the Three Ghosts of Xmas past, present and future? and why do you rely on someone else to "fight your battles" are you a Man or a Mouse!
Wise One
- Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 23:46:16 (PDT)
Dear "Wise One" So you are on BST - British Standard Time? Then, I guess you are NOT who I thought you were - Answer me this - Are you British and from Seaham?
Jacqueline
USA - Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 23:44:37 (PDT)
Mr Seaham, Well done Mate, that was sure more than your usual 6 words, you must have swallowed the dictionary? but what is a "callus" put-down? anyway you've made a start.
Wise One
- Tuesday, May 06, 2003 at 23:43:51 (PDT)
Tony from Spain speaks on behalf of most of the GB users........ Did I miss something? Elections perhaps? It's kind of you to speak on my behalf but I'd rather you didn't. You're only after oil, after all.
Billy O'Reilly
- Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:19:32 (PDT)
Its nice to have some contact with my home town i have been living in the south for twenty years, i do get home some times but not as much as i should. Lots of very familiar names and places to show my kids.
Edward McCabe <edsurf58@aol.com>
Brokenhurst, Hampshire England - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:18:45 (PDT)
Father Corrigan you just wrote a load of codswallop yourself.Why is it when some people come on this site to complain about entries they just do the same thing they are complaining about themselves.If you don't like the entries then put something down on the book you want to discuss and I am sure you will get someone to respond in kind.
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:17:16 (PDT)
As an ex Seaham lad I return to our guestbook from time to time checking who's got what to say about whom. I find it both sad and frustrating that no-one has anything worthwhile to say (except Markie who's writing level and subject matter belong with the boys and girls at Deneside infants). My point being, all through my schooling at Camden Square, Seaham was a great place to grow up, some of the things we got up to at school were magnificent. My friends and I surely did not experience isolated incidents. What happened at Northlea and SIS there must have been some good belly laught we can all share on this guestbook. Apart from my aforementioned misdemeanour about Markie, why don't we stop the infantile insults and make people laugh.
Norman Brooke Hamster <brookie@aol.com>
Durham, - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:15:42 (PDT)
hi its the first time ive visited this site,i am a former resident from parkside and would like to hear from any member of the woodhouse family who ive lost contact with over the years...many thanks.
scouse <kw001h2134@blueyonder.co.uk.>
liverpool, mersyside england - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:13:53 (PDT)
Tony from Spain, leave Jacqueline alone, you are not a guestbook user, just a peruser, your last comment (all of 4 words) was on 26th March, you know you don't have to read her comments, your negative, blinkered criticism is unwarranted.
Wise One
- Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:12:35 (PDT)
I wish to change the subject (temporary) from ex-prat baiting to a serious one. I would ask g/book users if they agree with the Governments decision to spend 4.6 million pounds on the refurbishment of Clarence House for the use of Charles and Camilla,(also Camilla's Father) This money is being provided by the British Taxpayers. I think it is totally wrong, how many Hospitals would 4.6m have provided?
Wise One
- Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:11:50 (PDT)
To "Tony from Spain" Well! Aren't you just a grumpy thing today! Anyway, A few weeks ago, I happened to have got a phone call from your buddy.. Guest Book name: "Not Thomas Johnson" And he said you were really a decent lad! So, come on Tony... just get yourself all happy and stop being such a grouch! You are always complaining about something or someone or another. I mean don't you get tired of always complaining.. there is no need for you to complain. Infact, you should be at church each day thanking God for all your worthy blessings. "Not Thomas Johnson" told me that you live a very privileged life out in Spain. I dare say I could be a bit envious - I happen to love Spain, I have spent some time in Madrid and Barcelona and some of the islands. It is absolutely beautiful! Anyway, so why don't you just "bucker up" lad and start being more cheerful on our guest book. Bye! and Have a nice and Blest day! and remember to Smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:10:44 (PDT)
Jacqueline my dear, I was on the chatline from 10-25pm till 10-40pm Friday! did you get confused by the times ie we are now on BST, try again any Friday.
Wise One
- Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:09:17 (PDT)
wise one you have the intellectual prowess of an amoeba, your callus put-downs will inevitably drive people from this guest book. I would say you are childish but that does not go far enough and it puts kids in a bad light. You bitter man.
Mr Seaham
Seaham, - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 14:08:39 (PDT)
I love the new road opend along the docks and think it is so good........but can we please have some dog bins along there....there is not one bin from one end to the other, nt just dog bins but no bins, i know its still in progres but the seats a re in place but no bins!! i always clean up after my dog! please can we have some bins!!
dog owner
seaham, - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:47:04 (PDT)
"I'll be off" It really is just that simple Colin! There comes a point in life when you get tired of feeling, doing and looking bad. when that time comes, you should move on instantly. "I'll be off" is an affirmation, a statement of truth. It gives power to your decision to no longer be where you are physically, mentally and emotionally. "I'll be off" puts the World on notice that you have a commitment to be better, to do better, have more than you have right now! Find out what is not good for you and stop.
Wise One
- Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:45:52 (PDT)
Ox Brian, Yours is a typical response, ie you resort to personal abuse when you've lost the plot and the argument, next you'll be doing a "Colin(I'll be off?) Hall, and to Mr Seaham, do you get confused after writing all of 6 words Mate?
Wise One
- Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:44:58 (PDT)
On reflection Ox Brian you makes stacks of grammatical mistakes
Wise One
- Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:44:04 (PDT)
Markie-Speaking on behalf of most of the G.B. users I can assure you we would not miss your 'comments'.Try disappearing for a month and see what happens,go on make our day-you could spend the time e.mailing Davud Hunter.
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:43:32 (PDT)
I cannot believe i have come across this site. I put my name in the Jeeves search engine for a laugh,and Seaham Harbour guest book appeared. I was born in Seaham in 1960 and moved to Teesside in 1970, I have fond memories of Seaham and still have relatives there. My family will be delighted to visit this site. If anybody remembers me from 67 Fern Crescent Parkside please drop me a line.
David Proctor <david.proctor7@ntlworld.com>
Billingham, Stockton-on-Tees England - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:42:28 (PDT)
I'm with Andy from Dawdon on this one. This Guest Book could be used for serious social contact and family research and finding out what's happened recently back in the old home town. What do we end up with but lots of foolish harping and carping and PLOP and twistfflit and silly silly ping! I'm sorry.
Father Corrigan
- Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:40:57 (PDT)
Can anyone post details of how I can get in touch with steve of "happy the man" fame?E-mail or mobile to my address would be appreciated
bill <Justwilliam63@aol.com>
- Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:40:09 (PDT)
To "Wise One" so you were not on the chatline at 10.30pm UK time..so who are you then?
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:39:17 (PDT)
just passed by, I found your web site great !.
sonnerie <taha_4@yahoo.fr>
clev, ohio usa - Sunday, May 04, 2003 at 00:38:33 (PDT)
Your site is very useful and nice designed. Greetings.
diseño grafico Barcelona <info@edgpublicitat.net>
USA - Saturday, May 03, 2003 at 18:14:38 (PDT)
A little bit of education for all down-under ex-pats, England scored a massive 903 runs for seven wickets declared against the Australians at the Oval in August 1938, and the lowest innings total in test cricket is 26 by New Zealand v England at Auckland in March 1955! Sri Lanka beat the England score in in 1997 scoring 952 for 6 against India
Wise One
- Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:10:09 (PDT)
I refer to you as Wise One to direct this to you , not as a complement to your intellect , that was deliberately mistypted to see which idiot picked it up , congratulations ! A cheerful Wise One ? I've yet to see an example Oz-Brian
Oz Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:09:24 (PDT)
As a Seaham lad working away i thought id visit the website and see if i could catch up on the crack. The site itself is wellworth a vist and ill callin again from time to time , however this guest book realy p----d me off get a life you sad people this service could be used to the towns benifi, instead folk wont want to use the site as they have to wade through all this pathetic drivel.
andy from dawdon
skorradall, vesturland iceland - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:08:10 (PDT)
wise one why dont you do one.
Mr Seaham
Seaham, - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:06:47 (PDT)
John Spencer, what a pathetic figure you cut! You should get yourself to Oz/NZ where you'd be right at home with the whinging expats, so get real and stop your moaning Mate.
Wise One
- Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:06:08 (PDT)
"Davud Hunter" Thank you so much for your kind message to me in regards to ignoring some of the idiots on the G/B. Yes, most of the Guest Book users do complain about my forceful opinions over "this and that" but I bet they would sure miss my comments if I disappeared! Opinions is what keeps this G/B alive! I really enjoy reading what everyone has to say about daily life. Anyway, got to be going... take care..bye!
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 15:05:32 (PDT)
I write in reply to whoever Wise One is. I liked your constructive criticism of my article about appending names other than nick names etc,to guest book comments. so are you too embarrassed as to put your name to your e-mails just in case someone recognises you for the drivvle that you always write.
John Spencer <j.spencer33@ntlworld.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire England - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:45:38 (PDT)
and to totally bored------- that sounds like a good description of you!
Wise One
- Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:44:21 (PDT)
Ox Brian ( I gather that that is your true inclination and not a mistyping error) You sound just like another of those winging expats the Ozzies are always complaining about! and get us cheerful Brits a bad odour down under. Don't be so uptight Mate and cheer up a bit or you could end up like "Colin I'll be off Hall", you must be one of the most unhumourous exports to leave Seaham.
Wise One
- Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:43:52 (PDT)
W O W JM , is that some kind of mathematical puzzle you left or have you been listening to Dolly Partons D I V O R C E again. 2 much 4 me. LUV Mac T
Mac T <mactabash@aol.com>
- Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:43:05 (PDT)
Jacqueline, don't beat yourself up over idiots! Regular users of this guest book know and love you! Ignore them pet and keep posting the comments....it'd be a pretty dull world without them
sherwood forester <davidhunter9@hotmail.com>
Newark Notts - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:42:16 (PDT)
To "Bunyard's Exhibition" My apologies go to you if you felt I was judging your opinions too harshly. Also, yes, I did call some people on this G/B "morons" because I wish people would sign their proper names when directing a message to a particular individual. And, yes, I am forthright on my opinions and would prefer others to agree with me, but if they don't, then it is not the end of the world and it is okay and does not matter. It is actually good to read other opinions of "this and that" that differ from my own................... Anyway, I hope you have a super day today in whatever you are doing back home in Seaham. Maybe the sun is shining and you are able to go for a walk at one of the parks. I seem to remember a park at the top of Maureen Terrace beside what was the old Vicarage where Rev. Roy Brain and where Rev. Neil Heavisides use to reside. By the way, does Dr. Robinson still have his dentist there at number 2 Maureen Terrace? When I was home about 10! yrs ago I made an appointment at that dentist and was surprised to see Dr. Robinson still there! Anyway, this park I am talking about - I think we use to call it "The Dene" It had orchards and little rivers and lots of flowers etc. When I was a young girl, my mam and I use to go for picnics there. I remember I once went fishing there with a girl from School, It was a Sunday afternoon and was rather cold, anyway, I remember I fell in the river - Whoops! I don't remember that I caught a fish though. Anyway, y'all have a super day! and remember to smile! :)
Jacqueline <jacquiekmary@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 01:41:03 (PDT)
Great site! I like it.
Personal loans for bad credit <adamjcolonel@hotmail.com>
United States - Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 03:19:43 (PDT)
Please Ed! Close down this ranting forum for six months and start a real guest book after that!
Totally bored of Seaham
- Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 00:11:26 (PDT)
To all concerned , I've just had another look at the Seaham site , and I will make a few comments . The people that give their correct e/m adresses , that is if their comments on this site are made in good and respectful terms should be prized , the others who crave anonymity and are not brave or confident in their comments should be side lined . what these anonymous wits or halfwits miss out on is people contact from intelligent people from the area we all came from , and they are in fact the losers , Regards Oz-Brian
Ox Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 00:10:43 (PDT)
John Alfred Spencer (to give you your full title) I'm still waiting to hear some meaningful comment, topic of interest (local or otherwise) from you, your negative, blinkered criticism is meaningless and futile. I also don't always agree with m/s Markie, but there's more reason in one line of her letters than we've ever had from you
Wise One
- Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 00:09:23 (PDT)
To "Wise One" Well, perhaps you are British, because 10.30pm is still late afternoon/evening time USA time. So if you were the last name "R" or the middle name "C" or the first name "J" (of the American person I am thinking of) Well then American time you would still be at work... you are a busy bee to be fussing at the computer at those times. So.. maybe "Wise One" is British. If I am getting warmer, then "J" would be John and your last name is "A" But if you are indeed "J" "A" why are you being all goofy? and secretative about this and why did you leave a message about me being judgmental and this and that... But then, I am not sure it is you, because you did not know I was in TX over the Easter Holidays... but now that I think about it, "J" "C" "R" knew, but not until I had e-mailed him on the Saturday evening. I am not sure if this "Wise One" is either one of you two. Someone is being a moron! Anyway.. Hey we just had an earthquake a small one in Georgia. I ! was shocked! Georgia never gets earthquakes. I was in one in California back in June 28th 1992 it was 6.6 and it was frightening! But amazing to feel the ground beneath your feelt shake and tremor. Anyway, I am off to watch the news! Have a super day everyone! Smile! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 00:08:39 (PDT)
Dear Ms Markie. I read with amazement the other week that you feel I have offended you with some of my comments, although you reckon you've never been rude to anyone else. You must be a sensitive soul indeed, as I've never meant to offend you, I've merely disagreed with you. And then you've gone on to call other guest book users morons just because they won't do things your way. Who put you in charge? You say you never offend people, but you call them morons and I can't think of any other guest book visitor who has offended so many others with their patronising views.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Wednesday, April 30, 2003 at 00:06:53 (PDT)
M/s Markie, keep "digging" girl, one of these days you may get there! Oh you are getting warmer, I'll be on the chatline Friday 10-30pm UK time
Wise One
- Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 00:24:28 (PDT)
I am researching the following Seaham families who lived in Seaham in 1800-1900: SPENCE, JACKSON, RICKABY, STAMP. Please contact me if you have any information. Great site!
Janice Spence Martucci <janmartucci@tiscali.fr>
Paris, France - Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 00:23:26 (PDT)
Guest Bookers ,as at sometimes i dont agree with Miss j.markie i dont happen to pass on my comments which may cause offence to anyone. However as Miss Markie (j) points out that it would be helpful if correspondents would append their real name it would be of great assistance in identifying the odd (idiot)individual that writes a load of crap. I did mention this in an earlier addition to the guest book but those who wish to remain annonymous will continue to do so. I like most am a Seaham exile who likes to visit the GUEST BOOK TO catch up on the Seaham gossip of which there is not much lately
John Alfred Spencer <j.spencer33@ntlworld.com>
Portsmouth , Hampshire England - Monday, April 28, 2003 at 16:05:35 (PDT)
Harbour Lad - don't forget the outrageous racism that you enjoy in NZ ..how many Maori friends do you have?
Ned Leather
- Monday, April 28, 2003 at 16:03:33 (PDT)
Now that the Iraqi war is over (all bar the shouting) I think its time we took stock of our so-called Allies, that is the Germans and the French. We did not expect any backing from Mother Russia, they only back us when it is in their own limited interests to do so and the silence from the Chinese was deafening! and I suppose that we could really not have expected anything else from the French either, The traditional French response is usually Appeasement, colaboration and Surrender, they forget the debt of honour they owe to the British and the USA for liberating them on two occasions in the 20th Century. What can we do about it? for myself I intend to boycott all goods of French or German origin, Guestbook readers should make their own choices. For those who like French or German wine, I would suggest that our Allies (The Spanish and the Australians) make a good wine too
Wise One
- Sunday, April 27, 2003 at 10:40:28 (PDT)
Oki-Doki... Who is this person who calls himself/herself "Wise One?" I have gone through this G/B trying to figure out what I thought I already had figured out...and well, now I am not sure anymore. So why the hell can't people sign their own proper names? It is not a lot to ask, you know. Anyway, I can't figure out now if this "Wise One" is an "American" in which case if the person is, then I may know who it is... If "Wise One" is British... then.."Wise One" is an "American" in which case if the person is, then I may know who it is... If "Wise One" is British... then... a name with the letter "N" in it, comes to mind as "John." But how on earth would this person know I was in Texas over the Easter Holidays... I don't remember telling him in the Easter e-mail I had sent. People sign your proper names and stop being morons!
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, April 27, 2003 at 10:39:09 (PDT)
To "Wise One" Posted: April 25th @ 17:53 Pacific time.. Well.... I suppose I do know someone who has the letter "N" in their name... Actually I know lots of people who have the letter "N" in their names. But I think this one is a very particular person.... The first letter of the last of the person begins with "R".... But then, How on earth would this person ever know I was in Texas over the Easter Holidays (Liberty Hill- Georgetown.)Unless, this individual was informed by someone else? I know who you are... and I am NOT having fun with you. You are a huge pain in my heart - so go away!
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, April 27, 2003 at 10:37:52 (PDT)
I have some really good news for Oz Brian and Harbourlad! It has been reported in todays newspapers that none other than Mr M. Barrymore is attempting to revive his acting career by making a tour of Oz and NZ in the very near future! I'm sure that he will be given every support by the Citizens down under and if they're really lucky he could decide to stay there! Can anyone think of a better Person to lead the annual Mardi Gras Festival in Sydney which is reputed to be the largest of its kind in the World ?
Wise One
- Sunday, April 27, 2003 at 10:36:48 (PDT)
Hello to everyone who supports the Mayor's charities. We'll be travelling up Friday morning for the Ball tomorrow night which will also be a family and friends reunion, and a good night! It's still nice to come back. You can change the place but you can't change great people!
Stan
Sale, Cheshire UK - Friday, April 25, 2003 at 17:55:59 (PDT)
I hope the council understand that when all these new houses are built we are going to have even more bored teenage ruffians hanging about with nothing to do except mug old men & women.
Mr Seaham
Seaham, - Friday, April 25, 2003 at 17:54:46 (PDT)
What on Earth are you on about Jacqueline? Posting messages and then responding to them as well?!? Roses are red, violets are blue, I am schizophrenic and so am I too! One point though, indeed all of us here know what you like to "chit"chat" about as you seem to have the incessant need to remind us on a very regular basis
Colin
- Friday, April 25, 2003 at 17:53:52 (PDT)
Jacqueline Markie, I know that it wasn't you that put the "wiser than you" entry on the guestbook, but seeing as you know? why don't you let us all in on the secret? I could hazard a very educated guess! if I give you the first letter will you complete it? ie "N"
Wise One
- Friday, April 25, 2003 at 17:53:04 (PDT)
New Zealand sounds like a fantastic place to be you are one lucky person I moved to Canada where we have great summers but unless you like the snow and really freezing cold winters your choice sounds better.Maybe one day I might get a chance to visit
EX HARBOUR LASS
CANADA - Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 00:14:46 (PDT)
Harbourlad, You could certainly get a job in the NZ tourist industry, you seem to know how to put a case together! I have never been to NZ, but if the scenery shown in the two recent Blockbuster films is typical, then yes, you have a lovely Country, but we also have a lovely Country here too and we Seahamites call it home and I suspect you still do too? Countries are not boring, but some People are, whether its in Seaham or NZ, now Colin ( I'll be off ) Hall could be described as being so, but we don't have to put up with him now as in his own words "i'll be off" time will tell. now in my own words "I'll be off too" but I'll be back! best of luck to you Harbourlad
Wise One
- Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 00:13:53 (PDT)
To "Wiser than You" Oh no you are not! I know who you are.. only a few people knew I was in Texas over the Easter Holidays - and Liberty Hill at that, actually it was Georgtown, but it comes up on some caller Id's as Liberty Hill. Oh Yes, I know very well indeed who you are........... So people of this G/B I DID NOT write that entry about me supposingly saying "Oh gawd... and so forth.." Someone else did! And I know who.. it is not hard to figure it out you know. Actually the people of this G/B all know me and they know what I like to "chit-chat" about.. so hopefully they knew I did not write that.. Also.. my e-mail is NO LONGER "Mary Markie"...
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, April 23, 2003 at 00:12:52 (PDT)
Harbour lad. You forgot the best thing about New Zealand - that excellent orange squash that came in the very rounded bottle. Kia Ora to you too son, and God bless!
Billy O'Reilly
- Tuesday, April 22, 2003 at 00:38:54 (PDT)
I loved your site..
Personal Loans <loans@netstar.com>
USA - Monday, April 21, 2003 at 05:13:40 (PDT)
As a former Seaham resident and a regular reader of this guest book I often have a little laugh at the invective thrown around at other peoples comments. However now I would like to question Seaham Boys comments on Colin Hall and New Zealand. You refer to N.Z. as being a boring country, I assume you have visited the country and spent time here, if you have I don't know how you could describe it as boring. This is a country with good weather, great scenery, great beaches (sand and surf), some of the best walking tracks in the world, Big Game fishing ( marlin, tuna,shark, kingfish), exceptional inshore fishing (snapper, terakihi,cod and numerous other species). Hunting (deer, pig). all available to everyone. friendly people, exceptional restaurants and good night life this is the country that gave the world Bungy Jumping, a country that is renowned for Adventure Tourism (paragliding, hang-gliding, sky diving, scuba and snorkel diving). This is a country that is la! rger than Britain has under 4 million population hence lots of open spaces, a country that is very high on the list of destinations people from Britain and numerous other countries want to visit. A country with high waiting lists of people wanting to migrate to. A country that is described as clean and green,I have had numerous relatives from Seaham visiting N.Z. and without exception they all expressed a desire to live here or an intention to visit again. When I lived in Seaham I have memories of good people and some good pubs and clubs, SUNDERLAND AFC.inclement weather, dog shit and rubbish. places in decline, polluted beaches that many people wont use. Now you cannot fish off the pier or even walk around the old docks. No somehow I don't think you have visited N.Z. I could be wrong as I am sure you will be only too keen to correct me if I am wrong. Well after reading all that I have written I am off to apply for a job in the tourism industry. KI-ORA (goodbye) Harbour Lad.
Harbour Lad <ruru_geordie@paradise.net.nz>
wellington, new zealand - Monday, April 21, 2003 at 00:31:15 (PDT)
Hello all can any one remember me, i was born in Dawdon in 1924, i went to Dawdon school left in 1931 to attend camdem square school still live in Seaham. Married Margaret Leighton in 1946 have two grown up children, Christine and Martin.
Humphrey Proud <Proudproudy@aol.com>
Seaham, Durham England - Monday, April 21, 2003 at 00:28:37 (PDT)
To "wiser than you" You're dead right Mate, that was a ludicrous posting, but I could never resist "fishing". Methinks I "got a bite"
Wise One
- Monday, April 21, 2003 at 00:27:19 (PDT)
Carry on G.B. You all sound like a gang of drag Queens, trying to out-bitch each other.
Critics Choice
- Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 02:01:30 (PDT)
Well said wise one, colin hall is so full of contradictions, he will be back of that I am sure, I have seen him on another web site and he revels in abusing peoples lack of grammer and spelling, of this he is a master, mind you it says something when he does not even know were his older brother lives, no doubt fell out with him over his grammer, I would say this country is a far better place without the likes of colin. New Zealand is welcome to him, I cannot think of a more boring country for him to rest his head. keep it up wise one
seaham boy <lurcio69@hotmail.com>
seaham, uk - Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 02:00:46 (PDT)
Mr. Yoseph, how dare you doubt my closeness with the son of man. Everyone knows I am right up there by his side castign my judgements upon all of you mere mortals.
JKM <hola@hola.com>
- Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:59:23 (PDT)
OK I believe you that that is your right name, I've looked back in the Guestbook for some meaningful contribution from you, but have yet to find one! Negative criticism will get you nowhere Mr Spencer, You're a bit like Colin (I'll be off) Hall. You should read again the contribution from Billy O'Reilly (April 16th) which really says it all. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen (with apologies to a great US President who first uttered those immortal words) So come on get with it, after all a lot of correspondents who append their "proper" names get a "lot of stick too!" dont they Jacqueline?
Wise One
- Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:58:32 (PDT)
John Spencer. You're dead right. It's your proper name and you're putting in some proper drivel. A credit to the guestbook - as usual. To the wise one. Yes, I suppose I am that rare combination - an Irishman with a little wit and no aversion to being patronised. I thank you!
Billy O'Reilly
- Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:57:31 (PDT)
Just seen this post by Colin "and now adopts a the typical tangential approach of the loser in any discussion; personally attack the opposition and side-step the issues. Your vocabulary is rather small, but the turnover is terrific!I imagine you can't wait to hear what you're going to say next! " I would call that a personal attack, see what i mean this man tries to baffle people by spouting so much rubbish, he is the master of personal attacks and in his words is a LOSER.
Seaham Boy <lurcio69@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:56:42 (PDT)
JB - I am in regular contact with Colin Bryce Hall. He is interested to know who you are? Gibba
David Giplin <david.giblin@tesco.net>
Seaham, Durham England - Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:55:02 (PDT)
Oh gawd...did you read that ludicrous posting by me below?Do not know where on Earth my head was when I wrote that. Sorry all. I will try to contain myself in future
Wiser Than You <marymarkie@aol.com>
Liberty Hill, TX USA - Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:53:38 (PDT)
Miss Markie, I have studied your request to me and agree that a person should be addressed in a manner agreeable to his/herself. So Jacqueline, you seem a happy type of Person. You should also know that it is Gods wish that you be happy, however, you cannot exercise this duty by clutching unrealistic beliefs, struggling with unworkable assumptions, juggling painful images, jumping to false conclusions, running with impulsive decisions, or massaging hasty judgments.
Wise One
- Sunday, April 20, 2003 at 01:52:17 (PDT)
P Catching,Seaham. I came across your entry about "Otis Lift & The Elevators", which is my band, though without Otis now, as he left in 1999. I wonder where it was that you saw us, as I don't remember ant fire-eaters?? Perhaps it was Hastings? You can reach me/us via our website http://www.elevatorsweb.com Cheers, John Whippy, England
John Whippy <elevators@mightyblues.com>
Brighton, England - Friday, April 18, 2003 at 23:53:58 (PDT)
Why do most pc users insist on using names other than what they were given by their parents. Its probaly because they talk so much dribble and write it that they would be recognised by others who know them. If everyone had to use their proper name there wouldnt be as much rubbish said on the guest book. Yes this is my proper name.
John Spencer <j.spencer33@ntlworld.com>
Porysmouth, Hampshire England - Friday, April 18, 2003 at 23:52:29 (PDT)
Miss Manners, how are you? lets get back to "basics"
Wise One
- Friday, April 18, 2003 at 23:51:05 (PDT)
Miss J Markie what makes you so sure that the son of man would want a "chit chat" and a cup of tea?
Mr Ben Yoseph
Bethlehem, - Friday, April 18, 2003 at 23:50:22 (PDT)
Hi, good site visitas virtuales, imagen virtual, panoramicas, paseos virtuales, panoramas, inmersiva, fotografia 360
visitas virtuales <hola@hola.com>
- Friday, April 18, 2003 at 05:06:11 (PDT)
Billy O'Reilly, I gather you are an Irishman? you know, you talk a lot of sense like most Irishmen! (and Women)
Wise One
- Friday, April 18, 2003 at 01:03:21 (PDT)
I'll tidy up my last sentence by the addition of the word 'beggars'.
Billy O'Reilly
- Friday, April 18, 2003 at 01:02:50 (PDT)
To "Not Rose Colored Glasses" Well, okay maybe George Bush is being a little bit too much into the "war" thing lately.. I don't know where his head is. I am also concerned that Colin Powell is now "assuring" the Syrians that they are NOT next on the list of being attacked, just as the Bush Administration "assured" North Korea they are NOT next to be attacked. Well.. it just goes to perhaps prove that maybe, just maybe Mother Angelica (from EWTN Catholic television station) and that Father Underwood both said, that by the year 2004 "We will not recognize western civilazation the way we know it today." We all just need to pray for peace!!! And to stop fussing at each other for "This and That." I just happened to support our Military and to agree with the President for the War in Iraq. I think we needed to be there and oust out Saddam Hussain and his regime. Though now I pray that the in coming Government of Iraq will be more stable and not violate Human Rights and m! ore importantly, not all of a sudden "Back stab" the Americans and British for liberating their country from an evil dictator. But you know, I heard from one of my other Christian friends who is "Church of Christ" that there is suppose to be one person who convinces everyone that "war" is a way of making peace in the world. I think that person is suppose to be the "AntiChrist." But I just don't know if it is Bush.. I just cannot see that at all - that is insane! I think we (Christians) just want so badly for Jesus to return that we are looking for every reason to say that the "Time" is near. When we don't know when the "time" is for Jesus to return. I think it would be AWESOME for Jesus to return in my lifetime - Wow! I would love to see Jesus and have a cup of tea and "chit-chat" with him - it would be so cool! But I don't think that will happen in our lifetime. Anyway this weekend is Easter.. So I hope you all have a very HAPPY AND BLEST EASTER...
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, April 18, 2003 at 01:02:10 (PDT)
Colin Hall, its a pity that you are "chickening out" in your own words you say "I'll be off" I'm sure readers of this Guestbook will notice your contradictory statements in your last two letters! In the first one you complain of "verbal abuse" and in your second use "verbal abuse" yourself, Your use of certain "bodily functions" to describe me is an example. not very nice grammer for People to read, in particular younger readers. I think I'll prove you wrong on one thing though, you say (your words not mine) "I'll be off" methinks you're wrong, you will be back, perhaps not like Arnie, but you will and thats one bet you cannot win,
Wise One
- Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 23:52:37 (PDT)
Voice of Reason - have you never noticed how the 'serious' users of the GB - people looking for family or friends, or passing on info about events - invariably get taken seriously and aren't made fun of? There's room for us all here. I'm sure you've got some strong ideas about things but you could maybe try applying them to yourself and not try to force them on the rest of us poor
Billy O'Reilly
- Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 23:51:36 (PDT)
Best wishes to all our fighting forces in Iraq! they put our striking Firefighters to shame! It was an education in Iraq to see so many Royal Palaces built and used by one Head of State Dictator, so whats different about our Royals? How many Royal Palaces does our Queen have? three? four? six? or more? thats not counting all the "grace and favour" residences scattered about London, England Scotland etc. for the use of the many minor Royals, all at our expense. Whilst thousands of old Pensioners have to budget and count their coppers, its a bloody disgrace.
Wise One
- Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 23:50:30 (PDT)
Mary Markie as you e-mail address states. Oh Yeah, ol' Bushy Boy is doing just great. First he rolled through the Afghani's, now the Iraqi's, next he's rumbling towards Syria. Reminds me of a powermad little Austrian that tried to take over Europe in the 1930's. And talk about freedom, lot's of folks in prison that can't even get their names listed as being held. It might compromise the Bush national security act. Oh, but I shouldn't mention who I am, or people will start persecuting me ffor my views against the war. The soldiers are doning a job, and need all of the support they can get. That does not mean we should support the war. The two issues are not the same.
American <not rose colored glasses>
usa - Wednesday, April 16, 2003 at 23:49:37 (PDT)
The inaptly named "Wise One", [a name he presumably chose himself as it is unlikely anyone who knows him would have given it to him]has both a diarrhoea of words and a constipation of ideas, but could no doubt improve his grammar and punctuation given a reality check. The courage to use a real name might be a start, though I suspect he is a person whose word is never done.All his posts have one thing going for them, and that is they have a happy ending, mainly because other readers are delighted when they end!
Colin Hall
New Zealand - Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:02:33 (PDT)
'Former Resident" you are quite right. There is little of interest on these threads, other than verbal abuse by people who don't have the faintest notion of what they are talking about, or knowledge of who they are talking to! People like Wise One who is a person of so few words he keeps repeating those that he knows.He probably thinks he speaks from the shoulder, but it's a pity his comments do not appear to start from higher up! However, like you, I am an infrequent visitor, and as nothing seems to change much, I'll be off! JB, the Colin Hall you seek is my nephew,[Bryce was my older brother] and as far as I know is still in Seaham. You might ask his sister Karan, with whom I'm in regular contact, where he is
Colin Hall <Not WiseOne@ dope.com>
New Zealand - Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:01:21 (PDT)
Hmm, Wise One? The irony of your name isn't lost on me. Unfortunately I think you missed the point of my post. I do not wish to 'debate more serious subjects than that of baiting Colin Hall'. A Guestbook isn't a place for debate, it's a place 'to allow Seaham Harbour folk around the world to keep in touch, to find each other, to explore their roots and to share cherished recollections'. Maybe the site should host a forum section. Just a thought.
Voice of Reason <frankiescoat@hotmail.com>
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 08:59:43 (PDT)
I have not visited the Guest Book for some time and find it disappointing snd frustrating as it seems to have deteriorated into an unofficial chat room for a handful of people. Surely the aim of a Guest Book is for comments from visitors not to be a forum for regulars. I found very distasteful the messages from those seeking 'companionship'. How much further must this feature sink before something is done to retrieve it? Don't bother writing abusive replies - I won't be visiting again.
Former Seaham Resident
Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire England - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:21:56 (PDT)
OK Voice of Reason, I gather that you would like to debate more serious subjects than that of baiting Colin Hall? so OK name your topic and I'll be happy to, be it Sport, Politics, Foreign Affairs, Iraq, or the Church etc etc, but one small request if you do, please keep the words small and simple, so that Wor Colin can understand and hopefully join in the discussion
Wise One
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:14:58 (PDT)
miss manners regarding the co op i remember when they had horses to deliver the groceries that had been ordered two horses pulled the cart up the avenue we used to live at 163 at that time
harry hunter <harryhunter269@hotmail.com>
redcar, cleveland england - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:14:12 (PDT)
You're right Colin Hall, Dawdon is not the place it used to be, in fact its much better now that you don't live in the area, narrow-minded bigots like you, well we can do without you, I don't think New Zealand deserve you either, but their misfortune in having you, is our gain. I look forward to some constructive contribution from you (probably in vain) ps methinks your dictionary is outdated.
Wise One
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:13:01 (PDT)
some people really do not need to comment to SEAHAM
Amechi Okoh <amechiokoh@yahoo.com>
Benin City, Edo State Nigeria - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:12:01 (PDT)
I am looking for Colin Young Brice Hall{son of Bryce and Betty}, I am sure he is still in Seaham but when I come back there I can never seem to contact him. If anyone out there Knows him please let him know. Thanks,
JB
London, England - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:10:26 (PDT)
hello to everyone in seaham. just thought i would come and have look at my home towns web page. it is an excellent site and very informative. well for people that dont know me i am an ex seaham lad who join the army 1n 1988 but is always keen to know what is happening back home. more so now as i'm currently serving in the kuwait/iraq for the second time. i think we should have finished it off first time round then i wouldn't have to be sitting in the middle of a bloody desert again. oh well hopefully we'll do it properly this time. hopefully i will be visiting seaham again on my return. catch you all later
andrew holmes <holmesa80@hotmail.com>
gillingham, kent uk - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:09:27 (PDT)
Hi, and Goodmorning people of Seaham Guest-Book... this is Jacqueline on her soap-box again :) So what do you think of our troops so far? I think they have been immensely brave and have (are) doing an outstanding job! Even though we have had more than a few "friendly" fires that have resulted in the death of our soldiers.. overall, I think our soldiers are doing great!.... After seeing the news yesterday "A Kurdish fighter holds a sign reading "Bush and Blair, the champions of peace" in Arabic...." (only three weeks into the War) I felt relieved and it confirmed to me the reason why we went to War with Iraq in the first place. (Sorry if you disagree with me.. and yes, I know our Pope disagreed.. maybe he is afraid of the long-term consequences down the road. But I cannot figure out why he would disagree, he knew Saddam Hussain was violating Human Rights and was a serious threat to the world.).... If we continued to turn a blind eye, thousands more of Iraqies would have been subjected to torture beyond our imaginations - their Human Rights and Dignity just stripped away from them - and for what? Because they had differences of opinions? Or because they were women! Or Because they did not adhere to one of Saddam's ridicules laws? ..... If we continued to turn a blind eye, God only knows the threat Saddam Hussain and his regime could have been to our world. Does this not "ring a bell?" The similarities between Saddam Hussain and Adolf Hitler... America turned a blind eye,! to Europe from 1939 until 1941 after the bombing of Pearl Harbor; which forced America to take an active role in WW2. I am sure if America had not turned a blind eye to Europe during 1939 until 1942 there would not have been 6 million Jews killed, Poland would not have been occupied, Britain would not have been half demolished and France would not have been practically occupied (therefore today, the French would have no reason to feel resentment toward America for liberating them from German occupation - I think we all learned a lesson from WW2 (perhaps?).... Though I am still "wary" of the outcome down the road. And still, part of me questions if our motives of going to War with Iraq was not a little to do with "oil." I had heard that in Russia (yesterday,)they are still having War protests even though they saw how the Iraqies were cheering! :) and spitting on the fallen statue of Saddam. I just don't understand why we still are having people protesting against this war.! When I watched the statue of Saddam Hussain fall to the ground and on e of the news reporters had said it was the same excitement of the fall of the Berlin Wall (Nov. 9th 1989) My memories flashed straight back to that remarkable night when I was actually in Berlin. I chipped pieces of the wall down myself with my little hammer - I have the pieces at home with my parents in my collectible. The excitement that evening was amazing and incredible! Finally, the fall of communism in eastern Europe. Anyway.. I will get off my soap-box once again! I just wanted to voice my opinions and say again, not one person their right mind wants war, because the consequences are always grave. But what is worse? Turning a blind eye to human rights being violated and the threat of our world being endangered with Chemical and Biological weapons? Or, going full speed ahead with War with the objective to demoralize the evil regimes? I know this has all been a "fine-line" for "Christians" to deal with and accept. You may not all agree with me, but after seeing the new! s yesterday it confirmed to me that our American President, George. W. Bush and our British Prime Minister, Tony Blair made the right decision. I was made to eat my words a bit, as in the beginning,(back in December)I was not truly happy with Bush and Blair warmongering.. until I sat down and really thought about the whole situation. I know we all want the world to be at peace and war is not "Christian" but neither is turning a blind eye - how Christian is that? We have all been in circumstances where we have had to turn a "blind eye" I regret to say, I am not always too good at that. When it comes to my religious convictions and what I truly believe in my heart, I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut - I always just have to speak up and it gets me in trouble with "this one and that one" .. but afterwards, I am always glad I spoke up. I do feel very strongly that when the fine-line is violating Human Rights, then it is always, always, necessary to be courageous and speak out! One question for you all... Why is it that we "pick and choose" when there are millions of others around the world (Africa, and China and other places I may not be as well informed on) who are subjected to violation of their human dignity?
Jacqueline <Mary Markie>
USA - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:07:46 (PDT)
Yes Harry it was the same ice cream shop.As for walking on the side of the bridge I am afraid it used to scare me just to walk on the proper pathway.Do you remember down the dene there used to be a guard post from wartime we used to play in that.Would everyone just stop making stupid statements about how they are sick of the rubbish written on the guestbook and start putting something entertaining on it .Good lord all the likes of Colin Hall ,John,Voice of Reason,Billy Reilly and Wise One its time to put your money where your mouths are get off your high horses and start dicussing instead of stating
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:05:42 (PDT)
Miss Manners, I think the name of the ice-cream shop was Ryles, run by a little old lady who used to appear as if by magic from nowhere, sadly I believe she died as the result of being knocked own by a motorcyclist as she crossed Princess Road. The "Store" closed when a new Co-Op was opened in Green Street in the mid-seventies. This marked the rapid decline of shopping in the Princess Road, Queen Alexandra Road area. Murrays corner shop closed, as did Billy Hoare the butcher, Morelands bakery, Bel Applebys green grocery, Moores supermarket and Gilmores the butcher in Fox Street. Cartwrights shop near the fire station closed, along with Huttons dress shop, Ankers newsagent and the general dealers next door which had changed hands several times after it ceased to be Wynn & Purdys, it has however traded successfully for many years now as Guy Potts Tool Hire. This situation was to be repeated "down the Harbour" when our once thriving assortment of shops gradually ! gave up battling against the neglect of the commercial area of the town. The pedestrianisation which was supposed to help the town prosper merely nailed down the coffin lid, Church Street like St.Johns Square is now a very sad reflection, some would say a huge embarrassment on the people of Seaham. Its such a shame when you think of Doggetts, Goldfinch Wines, John Speed, Ayres, Harold Hutchinson, Liptons, Fine Fare, Woolworths, Crawfords, Dewhursts, Coopers, Watsons, Morelands, Nicholsons, Nilcarla Records, Chalks, Rubens Arcade etc. No, you cant live in the past, but its great to remember when Seaham had quality and quantity in its shopping outlets,its just a pity those two things dont go hand in hand today. What about schoolteachers, I wonder how many pies were made in the cookery rooms in Emily street?
DSR <hairychest@postmaster.co.uk>
Seaham, Durham - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:04:14 (PDT)
Wise one seems to have cornered the market on vitriol, and now adopts a the typical tangential approach of the loser in any discussion; personally attack the opposition and side-step the issues. Your vocabulary is rather small, but the turnover is terrific!I imagine you can't wait to hear what you're going to say next! Onlooker; never lived in Dawdon, though there were some wonderful people there, probably still are though I gather it's not what it once was! Does Wise one the Misnomer live there?
Colin Hall
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:01:51 (PDT)
Wise one seems to have cornered the market on vitriol, and now adopts a the typical tangential approach of the loser in any discussion; personally attack the opposition and side-step the issues. Your vocabulary is rather small, but the turnover is terrific!I imagine you can't wait to hear what you're going to say next! Onlooker; never lived in Dawdon, though there were some wonderful people there, probably still are though I gather it's not what it once was! Does Wise one the Misnomer live there?
Colin Hall
New Zealand - Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:51:40 (PDT)
miss manners was rylas the ice cream shop next to the princess i used to collect milk from the railway station in about 1947 for the ice cream. the swing bridge we used to dare each other to walk on the hand rail happy days
harry hunter <harryhunter269@hotmail.com>
redcar, cleveland england - Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:50:25 (PDT)
enjoy your website and all the crack i shall be visiting this weekend again up to see my step grandad jimmy swan.
G Robinson <905 @aol.uk>
doncaster, s yorkshire - Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:48:54 (PDT)
For Gods sake will somebody put a stop to that bunch of bickering old fish wives.
John
Seaham, - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:27:30 (PDT)
Hello! I want to greet the whole fire brigade of seaham! It was a beautiful celebration with your commander and the firefighters who came to our town. I'll always remember the sentence of your commander's speech: "I'm not a professional speaker, I'm a professional firefighter!" This sentence is great and probably it'll be famous!!!! I hope you come to our celebration of our fire brigade again in May! Best wishes for you all! Patrick
Patrick Ehmann <nitro84@gmx.de>
Gerlingen, Germany - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:26:44 (PDT)
Seeing as the so-called 'Guestbook' has yet again deteriorated into a slagfest, shouldn't there be an alternative forum for the argumentative people that inhabit this 'Guestbook'. When I first got involved with the internet and creating websites I always thought that a guestbook was provided for people who visit the site to provide feedback, be it positive or negative, not as a platform for whatever world events are taking place or as just a place to anonymously attack other people. The 'Alternative Guestbook', which did become saturated with junk, as it was provided a perfect area for the alternative viewpoint. I know it came to be filled with some very strange and bizarre entries but at least it provided people who wished to enjoy the Seaham GB a small filter that protected them from the ranting and raving of an ever growing AGB. So I ask for a re-opening of the AGB. It was not a moderated forum, merely a spleen venting arena. Surely the GB entries take preced! ence over the other bile, so allow the tat to be posted to an alternative forum and concentrate on the respectable entries.
Voice of Reason <frankiescoat@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:25:14 (PDT)
DSR. Given the choice between the usual guestbook fare and your desire to discuss retail outlets in Station Road......... What's to stop benign coexistance? After all, we put up with your entries. Have a wee smoke mate and throttle back.
Billy O'Reilly
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:23:31 (PDT)
Colin Hall, You're latest effort only proves to all and sundry that you are the Dummy, in your own words, you are a little unsure! more like a confused expat who "skirts the issue" time and again! get real expat. and learn from your mistakes which are in abundance.
Wise One
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:22:39 (PDT)
Having seen the three autumn Rugby internationals at Twickenham namely New Zealand,Australia and the South Africans and England play France,Wales and Ireland in the 6 nations. I have to say this is probably the best England team that has ever played Rugby Union and believe they will be serious contenders for the World Cup in the autumn, however the all blacks would be my favourites to to win the cup as they are without a doubt the most consisitent and actually played England off the park for the last 20 minutes and of course the Australians are at home and never give less than 100%. The Springboks are in total disaray and the only other team to have a chance are France [depending which France turns up of course]the Argentinians are a good bet to do well but lack strength in depth, and the Italians actually played the best rugby of the 6 nations at times,John Kirwan the coach has definately fed all black rugby into them. Whoever wins will deserve it because they will have to have earned it the hard way.
joe macveigh <joem@freebone.net>
rainham, essex uk - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:22:02 (PDT)
Colin Hall, You seem to be losing ground on two fronts, come on get with it, did you leave your backbone in Dawdon?
Onlooker
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:20:32 (PDT)
DSR how about further along Princess Rd do you remember Thompsons green grocer or Rylas (not sure of spelling) candy shop or if your old like me do you remember the Princess movie house or the co-op store,how about the greendrive swing bridge.
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:19:57 (PDT)
DSR, why don't you take your own advice and put something constructive on the G/book? memories are fine, but you can't live in the past for ever, get with the 21st Century.
Wise One
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:56:39 (PST)
Can anyone assist me in tracing the Authur and origin of the following poem, perhaps m/s Markie you could help? "Those we love don't go away,They walk beside us every day, Unseen, unheard but always there, Still loved, still missed, still very dear.
Seaham Resident
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:56:01 (PST)
Does anybody know a family called duffy in seaham?
michael <watsonmikbrik@aol.com>
darlington, durham - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:55:09 (PST)
I was born in seaham in 1943 but my mother took me to doncaster when i was a baby but i have been a regular visitor all my life i would stop at my grandfathers in stanley st.his name was Martin Watson i believe he helped to sink the shaft at vane tempest pit.I am looking foreward to my next visit next weekend when i will be staying with my step grandad Jimmy Swan and visiting the pub that used to be the conservative club
g.robinson <Grobinson 905@aol>
doncaster, s yorks - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:53:58 (PST)
Hi, I go to Seaham School of Technology. Anyone else?
Joanne Middleton <joflanmiddlepot@yahoo.co.uk>
Seaham, Durham England - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:52:07 (PST)
I'm not quite sure how to respond to you Wise One, because your pseudonym would seem to indicate the contrary; either that or you mistook a book of cliches for a dictionary! Perhaps a little courage and a real name might encourage you to throw away the former and replace the latter with a more modern version? Your "little englander' repartee is really quite meaningless when you evidently confuse vitriol with a 'wind-up'.The Empire and Commonwealth are dead ducks mate, and the proof of the pudding, [to borrow a cliche] is in the eating! Put simply, you guys don't win because you're not good enough.I mean, well, didn't the Captain of the England cricket team spit the dummy and take his bat home after the last series of defeats? Thanks for taking the bait by the way!
Colin Hall
Wellington, New Zealand - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 23:50:54 (PST)
It now seems that the original purpose of this guest book has failed due to it being used as a soap box by a minority of people who see it as an opportunity to repeatedly voice the same views and opinions time and time again. Anyone is entitled to have an opinion and sometimes we wont all agree on the view that is offered but can I ask that this guest book isnt used as a place for constant repetition, name calling and backstabbing. It would be nice if we could hear from people who have memories of Seaham, its people and happenings, things that stick in your memory, characters and how the place has changed etc. I am sure that there are many contributors who arent bothering to post entries because the guestbook has lost its way and become stale. Can anyone remember Mrs Millers bike/toy shop, Lonsdales Wallpaper shop and Elliotts bakery along with the other shops on Princess Road for example?
DSR <Haitychest@postmaster.co.uk>
Seaham, Durham - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:14:56 (PST)
My dad, Walter Fox, left Seaham harbour in the mid 1930's to join the Army, presumeably because of the depression and also his dislike of digging coal, in narrow seams, from under the North Sea. He joined the RA, but was invalided out after his horse bit him in the middle of his back after he tried to settle his horse, Connie, down for the night. He went from there to Bristol to work at the Bristol Aeroplane Company works during WW2. It was while he was there that he met my mother and I am a product. I know my father was part of a large family, but because of the constaints of the war and after which made travel almost impossible I never, ever, got to meet any of my fathers family. I emigrated to Oz in 1968, and my da died in Nov of 1984. If anyone can identify with this chain of events please contact me. The only known name of a sibling of my father was Connie whom I beleive visited us in a small village north of Bristol called Olveston. Great to visit your site.
Peter Fox <dixalea@bigpond.net.au>
Townsville, Queensland Australia - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:13:02 (PST)
Thomas, bad news, I didn't get your message until today, Sadie was late posting it. Sadly, I'm afraid to say, Wise One has backed out of his offer to buy the beer, so it's down to me. Give me a bit more notice next time. As for you Wise One - that you ain't!
NTJ
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:10:43 (PST)
Colin Hall, Wow such vitriol! You could be another one who has to "eat your words" how do you get so bitter? I know you to be an expat from previous comments you've made, but why you feel so bitter towards the land of your birth surprises me somewhat. You know we (the Brits. that is) taught all you NZs and Ozs (both native and expats) how to play the games we invented ie Rugger, Football, Cricket, etc, but one thing we forgot to teach you all was a sense of modesty in victory or in defeat, perhaps we're not "taking the tablets" like some of your players stop "blowing your own trumpet Mate and remember "every dog etc" I'm sure the best team will surely win the World Rugby Cup, but if its not England I'll be the first to congratulate the winning team, unless you get a injection of British fair play and beat me to it, now that will be something to shout about!
Wise One
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:10:01 (PST)
Expatriate NTJ? Not in the literal sense of being exiled or banished from one's native sod.I am free to come and go, and occasionally do, but if you mean did I once live and breathe in Deneside then the answer is yes, though I am now a New Zealand citizen.
Colin Hall <no.way@inhell.com>
Wellington, New Zealand - Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:08:47 (PST)
Hello everyone. If any of you are interested (or know anyone who is interested) in alternative music, there is a great gig on in Seaham this Friday night from 7pm at the Westlea Social CLub in Seaham. There are three great bands playing, including a signed band who've come over from Sweden (apparently!). If you would like more information please do not hesitate to contact me! Thank you all for your time.
Concrete Angel <concrete_angel@hotmail.com>
Washington, Tyne and Wear England - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:16:26 (PST)
NTJ Now you seem to be talking your age at least (tee hee and tee hee hee) but I fear you've given the game away completely, I always assumed (wrongly it seems) that you were a male of the species, but you're not are you? you are one of two things without a doubt. either a Woman, or a Man by birth with a Woman struggling to get out of your effeminate body. after all why would you have this obsession with wanting to "date" Mr Johnson? I don't think I'll come to this "meeting" now as I wouldn't dare turn my back on you. So buy your own beer or do you drink Babysham Pet?
Wise One
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:09:21 (PST)
Dear "Colin Hall" Yes, I am for real! If you don't believe me ask anyone in Seaham. My parents still live there, so does my sister, I use to attend St. John's Church, sing in the Choir (rather, just move my mouth)and was in the Girl-Guides. I am for real! Yes, I suppose I am rather "Thick Skinned" and "Naive" at times. I guess I am just able to let things fall off my back and take "some" things with a "grain of salt." I am my own unique, individual person and I don't care what others think of my opinions. I am a leader, not a follower and if I am wrong about some things - Oh Well! It is not the end of the world! And then I don't mind admitting my fault. Life is too short to allow things to get to you too much. I mean, just look at the state of our world at the moment - It is a bloody mess! I believe we all should try to get along, forgive and live in peace and so what if we have differences of opinions, it does not mean one is right and the other is wrong..It just ! means we all have different perspective of things and of life and that is okay! Anyway, yes I am for real and yes, I will still continue to contribute to this Guest-Book and voice my opinions on various issues and topics - It does not mean I am always right or wrong - and by now, the "regulars" of this Guest-Book should all know me and know I mean no harm or personal insults. I am just not afraid to speak out my opinions and debate. I am not afraid of life, I take each day and embrace my life and the people around me. Have a Super day everyone!! Lets still pray for ALL of our troops and families.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:08:23 (PST)
Colin Hall - before I respond, tell one thing, are ou an ex-pat?
NTJ
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:06:22 (PST)
HOY Wise One, get back here and pick on me and leave the women and OAP's alone you big bully!
NTJ
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:05:50 (PST)
NTJ will be in the HV on Thurs 9-00pmish
Thomas Johnson
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:05:19 (PST)
I was wondering if anyone out there could help me find some information on my Grandmother. Her maiden name was Mary Elizabeth Proctor and was born in Seaham Harbour. She married Alfred Owen Lloyd and moved to St.Mary's Ontario Canada after the war. If anyone could pass on any information it would be greatly appreciated Thank-you
Patricia <trish_bearss@hotmail.com>
Srtatford, Ontaria Canada - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:04:40 (PST)
What? no bites? Fishing off the pier was never this dull!
Colin Hall
Welington, New Zealand - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:03:00 (PST)
Miss Manners, perhaps we should ask OAP from Sunderland to talk about SAFC? now that will surely "shut her up"
Wise One
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:39:05 (PST)
"Karen" I am not the only one, in your opinion, who seems to think I sopil this guest-book for everyone with my "opinions." I seems to remember "Victoria M'Cabe" and a few others been given a "hard" time for their opinions that others did not agree with. There is more than just "Jacqueline" on this guest-book who miffs others with opinions. Besides, we are all adults and we all know the remarks on this Guest-Book are to be taken with a grain of salt. However, your comment was indeed more than just a mature, friendly disagreement - it was meant to be insulting. Everyone on this Guest-Book knows me now, nad they all know I am strong on opinions and say what I think or feel, but they also know that I mean no harm or insult to anyone - I think if I am not mistaken, people on this Guest-Book just take me with a "grain of salt." They amy not agree with what I say, but they as in the regulars, do not make insults (except maybe "Bexhibit" now and then.)Karen if you want to! make commetns on this guest-book, please make a comment that is worht reading and not insulting to others who you do not even know. Or if you do know theses people on the G/B from back when in school, remember that was almost 20 years ago. People change and grow with life experiences - we are anot all the same we were were when we were teenagers. Anyway, have a nice day! :)
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:37:53 (PST)
Hi there everyone just wanted to see that you are all getting on alright without me I am now in da army and havent seen home for nearly 3 mounths plus its ma birthday to day woohoo take care
Liam
Seaham, Co Durham England - Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:35:51 (PST)
Oh dear!Romantic dreams of grandeur in the rugby world from pseudo-rugby supporters like NTJ; and Markie is still using her extremely limited vocabulary with the usual turnover of meaningless drivel. Nothing much changes. NTJ is clearly overcome by England's success in the the pussy-footing around that passes for rugby in the six-nations. Playing in the Southern Hemisphere is a different game Dear boy! England has played 24 games against New Zealand, of which they have won five, with one drawn[in 1997]. They won in England last year by a mere three points against an All Black team which had no less that seven new caps in it.A team of apprentices one might say.They next play the All Blacks in Wellington on 14th June this year,but the AB's will field a full-strength team, and will bury England. World Cup to England? Dream on sunshine, you are playing in Australia! As for Markie, Ms, for the use of; I don't believe she exists, and all 'her' rambling are the work of someone else acting as a catalyst for controversy. Nobody real could be as thick-skinned or naive.
Colin Hall
Wellington, New Zealand - Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:34:43 (PST)
Wise one - hit the spot did I? (tee hee) You must have the best set of teeth in the region the amount of biting you do (tee hee hee) Once again, on a different subject, Thomas when are we having that pint, I've even arranged for someone else to buy the beer.
NTJ
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:32:31 (PST)
parkside ccfc are the best
philip
co durham, - Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:31:46 (PST)
To OAP where are all these "normal" people you talk about.I happen to think most of the people who use this site are normal people except for ones like you who leave messages that make no sense.You complain about the messages on this site please tell me what do you want to discuss.Maybe you can start a dicussion to get us off on the right foot
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:44:26 (PST)
My mother, back in Kerry, used to "WHOVER" and "PREY" all the time. I never did see the point of all that "WHOVERING". What's wrong with a bit of dust!
Father Corrigan
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:43:21 (PST)
Stumbled across the site - shame Ms. Markie seems to be spoiling it for everyone. Obviously no one is interested in the slightest what you have to say. Take the hint girl.
Karen
London, - Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:42:29 (PST)
Ok NTJ so you're a Rugby fan, just hope you don't have to eat your words in October, I do hope you're right about the Oct. 18th forecast, but be man enough(if you're wrong) to admit it to Oz B. as to your constant "bringing up of grammatical errors on this page, that's a childish paastime, thoo must spe nd hages luking fur irrers so all mak it eesieer for the to sea em. but dee keepa ritin, its yuur rite tee
Wise One
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:41:40 (PST)
OAP, You're from Sunderland? and you think You're normal?
Wise One
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:40:47 (PST)
Well spotted 'J'. I see you have a certain familiarity with claptrap.
Billy O'Reilly
- Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:50:46 (PST)
Please God. Can you infect the computers of all those people who are spoiling one of the best sites on the internet with an incurable virus that their computers cannot recover from and let normal people get on with enjoying the site
OAP
Sunderland, England - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:50:01 (PST)
To J. from England - When I go to church I pray and say prayers, I certainly don't "WHOVER" and "PREY"
Paul Mainsforth
Seaham, - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:49:00 (PST)
Oz Brian - let's change the subject and talk about Rugby. Yes we can and do play away from our home ground - nuff said on that one me thinks! Come and see us in Perth on October the 18th, that's when we're gonna deal with the 'bocks. Sadly we won't meet in the quarter finals 18th and 19th of November but if you're lucky you may still have the honour of being thrashed by us on the 15th or 16th in the Semi's (providing you get that far) my money is on us giving the Kiwi's a good thumping in the final in Sydney. Get educated Marra, go and see the boys perform.
Not Thomas Johnson
- Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:48:12 (PST)
Wise One, I don't mind if you come along as Chaperone Girls! But that's plural? Who yer bringin' with yer Sweety? ps. Where are we going Honey-Pie?
NTJ
- Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:47:20 (PST)
McT - do you wish to make a point? Or is trotting out cliches enough for you? PS How do YOU recognise a racist then?
Billy O'Reilly
- Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:46:42 (PST)
To "mac T" You made some Good Points!
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Monday, March 31, 2003 at 14:45:57 (PST)
Here are few more of my thoughts for you Snipers to have a go at. Imagination and creativity is the core of true brilliance. Something a university education can enhance but never create. Those proclaiming to be of superior stature and intellect ridicule too many worthwhile contributions to this guest book. I note that these same individuals rarely venture an opinion of their own preferring instead to hide behind the bushes like snipers, something that suggests a degree in cowardice and nothing else. Attacking racism is commendable but you need to recognise an enemy before you open fire. I hate foxhunting, but I not a hunt saboteur. I dislike Americas foreign policy I dont dislike Americans. I hate this bloody war and it makes me sick but I dont hate our troops. When it is finally over it should be political leaders who are held to account, not soldiers. Blair may suffer a public backlash for getting us involved in this bloody mess but I bet the Washington propaga! nda machine will turn Bush into a public hero.
MacT
- Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 00:52:40 (PST)
Yawn! I forgot why I stopped visiting this site, it's just the same old people spouting the same old clap-trap but just with a couple of new topics {however important they may be}. GROW UP FOR GOD OR WHOVER YOU MAY PREY TO'S SAKE
J
England - Saturday, March 29, 2003 at 00:51:06 (PST)
Thank you very much for such an informative site. This is an incredible resource for students. I will use it for all my term papers, research papers and cliff notes. Keep up the great work!
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- Friday, March 28, 2003 at 01:35:08 (PST)
Thank you very much for such an informative site. This is an incredible resource for students. I will use it for all my term papers, research papers and cliff notes. Keep up the great work!
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- Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 20:58:38 (PST)
Thank you very much for such an informative site. This is an incredible resource for students. I will use it for all my term papers, research papers and cliff notes. Keep up the great work!
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- Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 06:30:20 (PST)
TJ/NTJ, mind if I come along as Chaperone Girls?
Wise One
- Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:25:47 (PST)
Well said Oz Brian..
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:24:10 (PST)
I think I had number lock on when I typed in my email address- it is magi01@ntlworld.com. All girls from SHGGS from 51 to 61 please reply to speak to Maureen and Margaret Adams. Lads from Ryhope RR school can contact Joe Adams and George Jackson (Maureen's husband). Cyril (Vic) Wilson is invited to respond!
Margaret Henderson was Adams <magi01@ntlworld.com>
marske, cleveland uk - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:23:10 (PST)
Hi. My sister Maureen Adams and I went to SHGGS from 51(53) to 58(61). Apart from Mary Fenwick, who I see every 10 years and Doreen Hathaway who I met in a hospital in Ryhope I've seen none of you since we left school. Names:Janice Armes, Ann Grey, Margaret Reay, Alison Preston,Judith & Sybil Ord, Marjorie Brown, Edna Robertson,etc.
Margaret Henderson was Adams <magi@ntl.com>
Marske, Cleveland UK - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:21:24 (PST)
Well, I guess I was rather premature and arrogant at thinking this War would be over by next week. I think with waking up on Saturday to what appeared such promising news...I became optimistic. Though the Americans and British appear to have the upper hand in Iraq, it is still beginning to look ugly. Some of the Military who are loyal to Saddam Hussain just simply do not have any regards to human dignity and could careless if they are violating the Geneva convention for POWs.In my opinion, this war was a "catch 22" We could have left it alone and faced the consequences of threat to our country at a later date, or we could have gone to War to oust out Saddam and his regime. We chose to go to War. Saddam Hussain's Regime is no different from that of Adolf Hitler or Stalin or any other fascist regime. Though, we do "pick and choose" who we fight and I am not sure I agree with that. In places in Africa, Sudan millions of Christians have been killed by the extreme Muslim! s, yet, we have done nothing! Nothing at all to save the Christians in Sudan. North Korea violates Human Rights, and is threatening us with War, yet, we are choosing to take a more peaceful solution. The Chinese also violate Human Rights, yet we choose to ignore it. Human Rights are being violated all over, yet we "pick and choose" which countries we help. I am not sure I agree with that.I think we all need to Stop the Anti-War protests and start PRAYING and just support our troops the best we can. This War is now looking ugly and I just hope it is over soon........."OZ Brian" Yes, you are perfectly right about what you have said in regards to Saddam Hussain. I think people need to be a bit more informed then they would understand why we are having this War. Just my sister said the other day, "Jacqueline, I am not interested, it does not personally affect me, so I am not interested." I then cut short our phone conversation. I was so mad! How can people say they are not interested. This War does indeed affect us - it affects ALL of us. Some of the reasons we have Wars is because of "ignorance" - people choosing not to be informed of the facts. Let us ALL keep our Soldiers is our prayers and hope this War will soon be over. GOD BLESS OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN AND GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRIES.
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:19:01 (PST)
I wanna tell everyone that I'm one of the grand-daughters of teh chelasea pensioner Ralph Dickinson. I think everyone who goes to war is sooooo brave n they deserve the reccomendation that they get! Maria Dickinson 15.
Maria Dickinson <beautybabey2k1@hotmail.com>
Seaham, Co Durham England - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:16:20 (PST)
Hi all. well this is my first time on this site, infact I found it by accident looking for old churches in seaham for my son's homework, but I think I'll be a regular
IAN GREEN <InGreen7@aol.com>
SEAHAM, CO DURHAM - Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 01:14:33 (PST)
Just surfing through and found your site. Liked it and thought I'd drop a note. I'll be back! - Sam @ Camping Supplies
Camping Supplies <sam@nospam.com>
Redmond, WA USA - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 23:25:51 (PST)
Father's name John Dobie and now lives in Worthing, Sussex
Jannette Flatman (nee Dobie) <jannette@swanlake.fslife.co.uk>
Fareham, Hampshire England - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:20:12 (PST)
Is this you Jaquie? As a foreigner living in the US, it makes me sick to my stomach to see the kind of "show" the media has created around the bombing of a city where 5 m. innocent people live(half of them 15 years old or younger). Explosions described as "spectacular" and "awesome" by Americans sitting in bars watching the conflict on live TV gives you a clear indication of the way these people think.
Jackie NY USA <just wondering>
- Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:16:52 (PST)
I watched an Aussie actress venting her spleen on T.V.over here , I swiched off in disgust , perhaps a few sordid facts should be made 1 - Sadam gave the Arab suicide bombers family's over a quarter of a million American dollars in one afternoon . 2 - Sadam is a monster who had 182,000 people rounded up , never to be seen again . 3 - Sadam dropped chemical bombs on his own people 15 years ago and killed over 5,000 children ,women and men in one village. 4 - Sadam in 1991 after the Gulf war , rounded up 10's of thousands of Kurds and tortured and butchered them 5 - Sadam is reputed to have a shredding room , perhaps the " human shields " should check that out . War is sickening , but for good men and women to do nothing only serves despots and murderers . Why are these facts not broadcast? perhaps then the peace protesters would stop and think . Spare a thought for the innocents and the men and women fighting to free them . Oz-Brian
Oz Brian
- Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:15:07 (PST)
I was awakened with this mornings news to hear that the Americans and British in Swafa, Iraq are being greeted by the Iraqies cheering and celebrating the beginning of their freedom. For those of you, who were against the USA and UK going to War with Iraq to oust out Saddam Hussain's Regime, I hope now you hold your head in shame. Again, I say, we have no idea how these people have lived under the regime of Saddam Hussain. They have been tortured beyond our imagination. Yes, their have been some lives lost during this short war at the moment, but that is to be expected whenever their is war. (The men and women who sign up for active Military duty, are prepared to lose their lives and they know exactly what being in the Military involves.) ......... I am very pleasantly surprised at how well this War has gone and that so far, their have not been any Chemical or Biological Warefare attacks on our Soldiers. I suspect by next week it will be over. The worst, however is t! o come, and that is rebuilding Iraq and ensuring the people of Iraq get to live in a Democratic Country............... I am disgusted with the continuious Anti-War protests....This is the time where we need to be in full Union and Support for our troops. I for one, am very Pro-Military!!!! And am very Proud of Both the British Soldiers and the American Soldiers...........I am also sickened by the French Government....Now they have said they will Veto against a new UN Resolution to allow the USA and UK to occupy Iraq until the country is stablized. I think after this War is over, we need to evaluate just who our allies are. (Not the French, Germans or Russians.) ..........Anyway, let us continue to keep our Soldiers and their families in our prayers.
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:13:52 (PST)
hi seaham is brillant you must come we have churchs to local pubs to the best beach
Leanne Dent <Leannd12@aol.com>
seaham, co durham england - Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:11:48 (PST)
Why is it that every time we go to war as American allies, they end off killing more of our troops than the enemy? What sort of people does the American armed forces employ? They must all be as thick as pig s*** if they cannot tell the difference between friend or foe! GOD PROTECT OUR TROOPS FROM THE PATHETIC YANKS.
MORT
- Monday, March 24, 2003 at 02:10:21 (PST)
Dear David, the fact that you (mis-)interpreted my penultimate message to you as a review is a further example of your incredible capacity to mis-interpret written English. Your first message to me suggested that I was apologising for Saddam, when I wasn't, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the West (even you must admit that there are Western nations in breach of UN guidelines for weapons?), and now you're critisising a review that wasn't there. Far from reviewing all I was doing was trying to point out to you was that your personal insults were pretty far off the mark, and that you might want to open your mind and realise that your own opinions aren't necessarily the only valid ones. Thank you for granting me permission to disagree with you though, that marks a definate change in tone, but if you don't mind I'll reserve any sensible counter arguments for people who are able to demonstrate a capacity for sense.
dr vix <drvmccabe@aol.com>
- Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 05:36:31 (PST)
I was born in 1928 in Williams St Seaham Harbour but the street does not exist now. I have been living in Australia now for 38 years, I had a cousin living in Parkside called Gladys Guy she would have to be around the age of 80 now, if anyone can give me any information about her I would very much appreciate it. She used to be an usherette at the local cinema when she was young.
Ron Brown <ronbrn@ihug.com.au>
Berowra Heights, N.S.W. 2082 Australia - Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 05:35:11 (PST)
"L Smith" I agree with you 100%..... WE MUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THE WAR OR NOT. Our troops are over there fighting for the freedom for our country and for the safty so that we do not have to live with the threat and terror of chemical and biological weapons being launched on our countries (USA and UK) Or anywhere else in the world. War began at 9.45pm Eastern American Standard time March 19th and already we have 12 American and 4 British troops that have been killed in a helicopter crash. The Pope has said this will be a "Deverstating War" with "grave" consequences. I just hope and pray so much that this will not linger on. I also hope that people in UK and USA put their opinions aside and SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS. ...........Billy O'Reilly get you act together! Support our very brave men and women who are putting their lives on the line for your safety and freedom. After this War I suspect America will be at War with North Korea over the same issue! s - I think this year is going to be filled with War....How sad!!!! GOD BLESS ALL OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN - OUR SOLDIERS WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM. (A VERY STRONG SUPPER OF OUR MILITARY.)
Jacqueline
USA - Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 05:10:46 (PST)
Greetings from Houston, TX. My name is Lisa. Let me thank you for such an informative site. I used it to compose
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- Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 00:25:10 (PST)
Lisa Thine the last time i heard of Jackie Thyne she was living in Robert Street Ropery Walk and she worked in what was Reeds at the bottom of Church Street.H this is some help .
Happy To Help
Seaham, - Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 15:32:59 (PST)
To Billy O'Reilly I don't think anyone wants a war but I think you are wrong not to support the brave men who are sent to war . I am sure they would prefer to stay home and hug their wives and children and watch all that horror on TV like the rest of us but they have a job to do They are protecting our lives and the lives of our families I am sure they are terrified of what could happen to them and that is why they need our pray's.They were other battles that sent lots of men to their graves and we honour those men every Nov 11.Some of those men are still alive today and I would bet they are feeling pretty sad to hear that people like you feel that the men in our forces have a choice of whether they want to fight or not.No matter who is right (Bush or Saddam)these men are going to war so lets not blame them but lets pray and support them
L.Smith
Canada - Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 15:24:49 (PST)
Ah Victoria, Dont know whether to feel complimented or insulted by you review; the words are my own though. Is it possible that your comment regarding cut and paste is a guilt response? I havn't mailed Chirac et al, lacking your geo-political expertise they managed to avoid reaching the level of teenage drivel. Please do disagree but from a basis of fact, not nonsense. There are sensible counter arguments, can you offer any? Or are you perhaps bankrupt in that department, prefering to rely upon your mistaken instincts. Perhaps we can all agree on one thing at this sad time, diplomacy has failed, let us pray for a swift resolution and for the safety of innocents, including the soldiers of both sides.
David Armstrong - Temple <davestrong2@yahoo.com>
Kensington, London UK - Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 15:23:44 (PST)
I wish some one would marry Miss Markie and put in the club. More time spent washing baby growers and nappies and less time on the net writing garbage
Judge Fudge <judge@fudge.com>
Seaham, Co.Durham UK - Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 15:21:33 (PST)
Hello all.I'll see you down the lion on saturday.Tina loves morton
laura jane kennedy <nutty_bitch2002uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Seaham, uk - Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 15:17:31 (PST)
My mum was born in Seaham Harbour and I spent every summer holiday there. I am now 44 and have wonderful memories of Seaham. My nana lived in Duke Street and my sister actually bought a house in the same street. She was due to be married to Alan Bresnen but unfortunately he was killed at Dawdon Pit 6 weeks before they were due to be married. My mum died four years ago and I know she yearned for her home town. My dad, sister, myself and our children will visit to bring back these wonderful memories and for the grandchildren to see where there nana came from. My nana and grandads name was Hillam and my grandad worked at the pit all of his working life and died of the miners disease with 100% dust. My two aunties still live in Seaham.
Lynn Bosanko <lynn.bosanko@gscc.org.uk>
Rugby, Warwickshire England - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:45:04 (PST)
GOD BLESS ALL THE "BOYS" IN ALL THE ARMED FORCES INVOLVED IN THIS WAR WITH IRAQ...NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM. and GOOD LUCK HOWE..Saint Lukes School.
Julie
Morrisville, PA USA - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:43:13 (PST)
Jacqueline........am I hallucinating or have you just posted something intelligent? You're quite right that the boys need support whatever...my son is a submariner..I don't see him for months on end but its the knowledge that come what may, he will have love and support for what he's decided to do that keeps him sane. Whether we agree with our stance or not, its important to those kids out there that they're not seen as the villains of the peace. Our "great leaders" are the ones who will have to live with the consequences of their actions, not the boys and girls on the front line.
sherwood forester
Newark, Notts - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:41:47 (PST)
I have followed this site since it started and stopped viewing when it was subjected to abuse and gibberish from a minority of writers, I have returned and find nothing has changed except that the writings of a minority have become more long winded and the content being of a low interlect. Please Webmaster get rid of these people who hug the guest book and let it return to a page where people can find each other and then talk to each other privately through their email.
OAP
Sunderland, England - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:40:22 (PST)
Visiting this site is like watching the shell grow on the back of a snail. Nothing ever happens. I keep popping in and sometimes I'm tempted to leave a note. Then, all of a sudden, there are several entries all timed and dated together. Sadie, how about getting a bit more active and updating on a more regular basis? Thanking you in anticipation
M. Benfield
Murton, - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:39:00 (PST)
A Little Story Went to my doctors surgery the other day to get my repeat prescription, I found the surgery full of "Asylum Seekers" No seats were available for and old person barely able to walk and not one of them got up to give me a seat. I finally got my prescription and went to the chemist and found that place full of Asylum Seekers and one of them presented a prescription to the chemist for a packet of throat lozenges which were available over the counter. In the past when I asked the doctor for headache pills I was told to buy them at the chemists. IS THIS CORRECT THAT A DISCRIMINATION IS MADE BETWEEN AND OAP AND AN ASYLUM SEEKER I also visited my dentist whose surgery was full of asylum seekers and the receptionist told me that they made appointments and all required an interpreter (who is paid 80 per hour for his services) She also told me that the patient did not always turn up for the appointment but the interpreter was still paid his 80 per hr. I also noticed that all of the seekers of asylum had mobile phones and were using them. I cannot afford to buy one and pay for the calls made. It would appear that they have very good advisors who Know all off the tricks to milk our benefits system
OAP
Sunderland, Sunderland Tyne and Wear - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:37:30 (PST)
dear puspa,you need to get in touch with dewhirst.com.they will be most interested in your indonesian handycraft!the management scum and their lackies who still work there would love to suck you,your family,and most likely your famiy pets,dry,at the expense of honest hardworking (given the chance)N.E folk.Pity the scum who still work there,and the conciences they might have once had.
northeast guy
peterlee, - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:35:18 (PST)
To be honest, Jacqueline, the defence of "only obeying orders" went out of fashion at the time of the Nuremberg trials. Soldiers have principles don't they? Do I have to support soldiers for doing something I don't want them to do. Are British soldier's lives worth any more than those of Iraqi civilians? Soldiers volunteer and take a wage - civilians do neither. Where are we supposed to hide our intellects during war?
Billy O'Reilly
- Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:34:01 (PST)
Billy O'Reilly, you seem like an even minded and intelligent kind of bloke, so you probably don't care a less about what I, or anyone else thinks, but, it has to be said - you talk sense.
Dr Vix <drvmccabe@aol.com>
Aberdeen, - Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 16:32:53 (PST)
To Playing the Blame Game, Well said. Is everyone at Dawdon being tarred with the same brush. There are some fine people living in Dawdon, and these i WOULD SAY ARE IN THE MAJORITY. It's the outdiders being allowed in who are causing the problems. To Jacqueline, you can't tell me you have got to become an adult and still beleive everything you hear and read. Why don't you do some research before you jump to conclusions.
Sal
Seaham., - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 07:03:59 (PST)
hello i'm a beginner. i want to enter new bussines in world wide. if u have the information please contact me. thank you for your attention. my bussines is about indonesian handycraft best regard puspa
puspa <puspaagustina@yahoo.com>
semarang, central java indonesia - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 06:52:30 (PST)
"Billy O'Reilly" WE MUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!! They did not ask for War, they did not ask to go to War (Though, when signing up for Military duites they know that there is always the possibility to go to War.) These soldiers are obeying orders and most of them, Americans and British are very ambiviliant of the out-come and consequences of this War and how successful this Regime change will be. WE MUST SUPPORT OUR MILITARY - DON'T YOU DARE, Billy O'Reilly, treat our soldiers upon return, how the Americans were treated after returning from Vietiam. ( I read in the British Paper "The Financial Times" that, that is a concern for the British Soldiers.)We need the Military to Protect our country. I never can understand the logic of people who are against Military or when former USA President, Bill Clinton was "downsizing" our Military in the early 90's to mid 90's - Because we need our Military now more than we did during the "Cold War." The troops are following orders fro! m the President and Prime Minister whether they agree with this War or not they have to obey the orders they are given. I do not believe in War and this particular War I am "torn." Part of me thinks we should go and oust out Saddam Hussain, but if we do that, I think we need to focus attention on ALL world leaders who are dictators and a threat to the world, also, who Violate Human Rights and there is plenty of that going around in the world - and part of me thinks, Hey, we need to focus on North Korea! It is openly admitting they are building Nuclear Weapons and test firing Missiles into the Sea of Japan. North Koreans "hate" the Americans and would love to have War with us. Anyway...I am a strong supporter for Military...And I support our troops and will pray for them and their families every day during War.
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 06:50:54 (PST)
A few comments/opinions......First, what the hell has happened to Dawdon over the years? I lived in Seaham from 1972 - late 1987 - and when I was in Seaham, Dawdon had a reputation then for being "rough around the edges." But, goodness me! It has just got worse over the years. People, why don't "they" just take pride in where they live? It is beyond me - it sounds like Dawdon is almost becoming like the Gettos in Chicago, New York,Los Angeles,and other big cities in USA. Anyway,.... "Brian B"...... I too, get all these stupid E-mails from these scams requesting my bank information in exchange for $26,0000 They give this whole story of they were the prince in the Toga etc... It is just a "scam" that is going around and some people actually buy into it. Then of course, all teh pornagraphic e-mail is just sickge for $26,0000 They give this whole story of they were the prince in the Toga etc... It is just a "scam" that is going around and some people actually buy into it. Then of course, all teh pornagraphic e-mail is just sickening! I am tired of it all. It proves my point that our world is totally Godless! Lost all sense of morals and principles.
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 06:48:57 (PST)
HELLO MY NAME IS LUKE AND I GO TO PRINCESS ROAD JUNIOR SCHOOL AND I LIKE ONE OF THE GIRLS IN THE CLASS AND HER NAME IS CLAIR SMITH.
luke dobbinson
seaham, durham england - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 06:47:30 (PST)
So it's only people from Dawdon that are bringing the town down? Methinks the trouble is more widespread than you think, take off the blinkers. A big fence needs to be built around Seaham full stop. A cull upon the scum would be welcome. And yes, I live in Dawdon along with many, many law abiding citizens. Do you really think that by labelling an area within the Seaham community will bring results? It wasn't long ago that Deneside and more specificaly Malvern Crescent were targeted as one of the worst areas of Seaham, do you really think that a lick of paint and new window frames solved all of the problems there?
Playing the Blame Game
Seaham, - Monday, March 17, 2003 at 06:46:02 (PST)
I see that 19 people have been arrested in Dawdon on drugs charges. It would be better to build a fence round Dawdon to keep everyone in because obviously anyone who lives there is a junky crack whore criminal and has no right to mix with decent members of the Seaham community. Maybe they should be forced to wear a tee shirt with " I am from Dawdon watch your car" wrote on the front and back.
Judge Fudge
Deneside, - Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 01:15:44 (PST)
I keep on receiving crapy e-mails from all over the world on my e-mail display. The most stupid one, offers me $26,000,000 dollars, I have been offered up to $35,000,000,that is if I send my personal bank details. Then there is: Cheap vagra, penus enlargement offers, Lonley but sexy lady wants your attension. Beat the BUG computer virus. Make your fortun on the internet etcera etcetra. Still, it's great fun pressing delete.
Brian B <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
- Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 01:14:40 (PST)
Isn't this the time when, despite not wanting a war or agreeing with it, we find ourselves pressurised into 'supporting our boys...' How are we supposed to do that?
Billy O'Reilly
- Sunday, March 16, 2003 at 01:13:39 (PST)
what a great site this is it's nice to see york house has been mentioned jacky smith was steward when i left the harbour in 61 brian marwoods claim to fame after arsenal was delivering papers to my mothers at 16 chaplin st
harry hunter <big H@msn.com>
redcar, cleveland england - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 16:24:47 (PST)
can you help? i am looking for the email address for jimmy gilbert in perth austrailia, i believe he is somehow connected with this site, nephew mel
melgilbert <melgilbert7>
sunderland, england - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 16:23:21 (PST)
Hello David, I hope you're happy and well. I thought I'd make this my last response to you, as we're no doubt boring people senseless. You know what people say about opinions. I'm not hiding behind my qualifications, just responding to your earlier aspersions. You might want to climb down from your high horse and realise that your opinions aren't necessarily the only ones. When people disagree with you it mightn't be because they haven't heard of the facts that you're so good at cutting and pasting for our benefit, they might have heard your arguments before, and disgree with a given course of action anyway. Maybe you could e mail Chirac, Putin, Short etc. and accuse them of uneducated teenage drivel. If you finish your message 'LSE' again, then I'm sure they'll be as impressed as I am. And I'm the one hiding?
Victoria McCabe <drvmccabe@aol.com>
Aberdeen, - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 14:56:35 (PST)
T.J. What nights do you get in the HV?
NTJ
- Friday, March 14, 2003 at 14:55:02 (PST)
Great site! Very well done!
Marcia
Walden, NY USA - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 14:54:25 (PST)
You have one of the coolest sites on the web-FAB!! Paul H.
Paul H
Waterlooville, Hampshire UK - Friday, March 14, 2003 at 14:53:00 (PST)
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Asif Maqsood
- Friday, March 14, 2003 at 14:51:44 (PST)
Well I came across this site quite by chance but thought i'd add to it. I spent a couple of years living in Seaham in the community girls home on church lane, between 1984 and 86. Ive many happy memories of my time there, especially the kindness shown to me by Mr Vince Keegan a truely wonderful man.I can honestly say had it not been for him its doubtful i'd be here now. Also the lady who owned the horse riding stables just down the lane from the home, I'm at a loss now as to what she was called but as i recall she lived in a caravan with her daughter at the back of the stables. In all the time i was there the best moments were always riding full gallop along the beach, and while on the subject of the beach i remnember how Mr Wyhatt who was in charge of the home would make us go for a swim in the sea no matter what the weather was like, not a nice experience in the dead of winter!! My last visit to Seaham was a couple of years back, i noted the home has now gone and Greystones is now a private residence, I wonder have the new owners met the grey lady yet..lol That building really gave me the creeps, we'd be sent over to live there if we'd been good but i always made a point of being naughty so i could go back to the main building as i never had a good nights sleep there. Well i guess that'll do for now, if anyone remembers me get in touch it'd be great to hear from you.
Susan Porter nee Clark <suzi31_uk@hotmail.com>
Newton Aycliffe, Durham UK - Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:40:53 (PST)
It's been a while since I last checked on the guest book. I see that some things never change: Jacqueline is still filling cyberspace with her opinions. A hello to Susan Bell my old neighbour, we spent several weekends camped out in my back garden and avoiding being shouted at by Dot Bent. Glad you and Valerie are well. Looking forward to spending a couple of weeks in the harbour in Sept and catching up with friends. Who need a fortnight in the Carribbean when there's the blast beach and the Dun Cow!!
Leslie Roberts <ladyboss67@yahoo.co.uk>
Phoenix, Arizona USA - Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:39:11 (PST)
I've got a wry smile on my face today
Not Peter Reid
- Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:37:50 (PST)
"Victoria" Don't worry, that is okay. You only made me feel bad for a few minutes. We are all entitled to our own opinions and God knows I certainly do my share of voicing my opinions of "this and that." Anyway have a great day!
Jacqueline
USA - Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:37:10 (PST)
Hey wise one - that you ain't boy!
NTJ
- Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:36:25 (PST)
Hey wise one - that you ain't boy!
NTJ
- Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 13:34:15 (PST)
Victoria, don't hide behind your doctorate, it wont make your views any more sensible or logical. If you know anything of the history of this conflict you will know that Iraq is in breach of the 1991 cease-fire. This alone is a fully legal reason to resume that war. The cease-fire was a cessation of conflict based on an agreement; when the agreement was broken it was perfectly legitimate to continue the conflict. The restraint is a testament to the patience of those countries policing the treaty. Furthermore, the use of force is implicit in Resolution 1441, the UK Government must only seek an 18th resolution because some nations are not prepared to accept their responsibilities in 1441; their stance is self-serving and cowardly. Despite the emotional sound and fury of a few do you not think it odd that polls show some 70% in UK would support the Gvt in a war authorised by a second resolution? Is the Nation so anti war? Try looking at some facts instead of res! ponding to emotional clap-trap. If our troops go to war they will be fighting Iraqis armed largely with Russian, not US, weaponry. The best we can hope for is a quick war. It is going to happen and it will be better for the Iraqis and the wider world if we are around in the ruins when it ends. Best Wishes to all. DAT
David Armstrong - Temple <davestrong2@yahoo.com>
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erin <erin@we.net>
brooklyn, ny USA - Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 11:33:59 (PST)
Come on NTJ and TJ When are you two going to get together and put us all out of our "sort of suspense" like? one small request when you do meet up can I come along and observe I'll even buy the first Pint! how's that? Don't worry I'll disappear when you Guys get to grips with things! You both seem like nice boys.
wise one
- Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:36:51 (PST)
OK Missn manners so youre 60 and plumpish! I think youre a bit of a
Wise One
- Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:36:09 (PST)
Dear "Lisa Thyne" I knew of a girl who was one year older than myself, her name was "Jacqueline Thyne" She attended Ropery Walk school when I did. From 1973 - 1980. She did indeed live at #6 Hawthorne Square. Do you know her? And what is she doing? Where is she? Hope you are able to answer me. Have a nice day. Jacqueline Markie.
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:34:57 (PST)
Good day Dave. I'm afraid you must have misunderstood me, I wan't apologising for Saddam, just pointing out the hypocrisy of the West. I also wasn't trying to pass off opinions, my opinions are real, so, no Jacqueline I haven't changed them in the light of Dave's message, although I'm sorry if I made you feel bad. Finally I am neither a teenager nor poorly educated. You didn't strengthen your argument by making personal attacks.
Dr Victoria McCabe <drvmccabe@aol.com>
Aberdeen, - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:33:15 (PST)
My grandparents WILLIAM AND HANNAH GRAHAM GREGSON,came from County Durham England in the late 1880's to Knightsville, IN. I have lots of current information but before the 1880's nothing. My grandparents moved to Clinton, IN in 1913. Grandfather was a coal miner.Your efforts in my behalf will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
J. Anne Brammer Bell <brammer@mchsi.com>
Tifton, Georgia USA - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:31:45 (PST)
Thomas, just got back from another trip last night. I read your entry, F SAN is still in white you'll be pleased to know. A man must climb it once but only a fool climbs it twice. OK, I'll buy the beer, let me know where and when, H.V. is OK with me.
nOT tHOMAS jOHNSON
- Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:30:18 (PST)
HI PAUL.(MOGGA) YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE WHEREABOUTS OF MY SISTER VALERIE AND ME LAST YEAR. IM LIVING IN SCARBOROUGH STILL (12 YEARS). VALS LIVING IN LUDWORTH NEAR DURHAM. WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? BYE
SUSAN BELL <excelsigns@hotmail.com>
SCARBOROUGH, - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:29:25 (PST)
Nice to see you back Thomas,if you mean by your reference to a 'wee bit of Scottish in him'that I would be reluctant to buy you a drink,you might re-call about a year ago N.T.J. and I were trying like hell to meet you with the sole purpose of buying you several drinks but you kept declining the offer,never mind who knows what the future holds.Good to see you are not getting involved in Markie's war mongering religous clap-trap,will that woman never take a hint.All the best marra let's see your comments a bit more often,'Have a nice day'
Tony From Spain
Espana, - Tuesday, March 11, 2003 at 01:28:10 (PST)
I am looking for information on my great grandfather, I do not know his name only those of two of his sons. these are Donald Thynne (Deceased) and Jack Thynne both of whom lived at 6 Hawthorn Square. I know nothingof my great grandfather and have met resistance when asking living relatives, does any one remember him or anything about his life.
Lisa Thynne
- Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 16:08:17 (PST)
"Victoria" I guess "David Armstrong" helped you to see a different side of things. We are all entitled to our opinions, but when making our own opinions, we should be careful not to make others feel bad for their opinions. After I read your message to me, I did feel bad. Though, when I read what "David Armstrong" had to say, then I thought to myself, "He is right, and this is exactly why Bush and Blair have been determined about getting Saddam out of office. Though, I am still disappointed with Bush, because I do think he is pushing war far more than he ought to. However, lets think of the positive outcome...If Saddam is outsed out of office, I can bet the people of Iraq will feel a sigh of relief. They will be cheering in the streets as they will finally be liberated - thanks to Bush and Blair. Victoria, we have no idea or concept at all of what it is like to live in a country where we are persucted for our opinions and tortured. Where we have to agree with our Pres! ident or Prime Minister, and if we don't, we will be killed. We have no idea how life is for those people in Iraq - we live in countries of Democracy where we are free to speak what ever we feel and vote for whoever we want. Hey, look at Cuba..Fidel Castro has just been voted in for the 6th session - 44 years as the ruling President - the longest running President. Don't think he has been voted in because the people love him...It is because they are afraid of the consequences if they do not vote for him. (it is a communist country like Iraq, North Korea.)Anyway, people, it is a "wait and see" for now...let us all pray that this will not be as disasterous as we are all anticipating. Let us continue to keep our soldiers and their families in our prayers.
Jacqueline
USA - Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 09:41:16 (PST)
Lets get more of the old Football pictures on the site.
Cole Harbour <Gdog Gdog Gdog Gdog>
Nova Scotia, Canada - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 01:11:35 (PST)
Brian B. Let me guess, you're a Christian aren't you? It's the only excuse that'll wash.
Theresa Green
- Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 01:10:03 (PST)
Victoria, thank God you didnt go on with the sad and embarassing teenage drivel you pass off as opinion. I can accept some of your stuff as a reflection of the poor state of education these days. However, your apologies for Saddam take the biscuit. Since coming to power through a bloody coup he has engineered two invasions that caused 3,000,000 deaths and two wars of agression; Iraq was at war from 1980 to 1991. Amongst other things Saddams regime has killed 180,000 Kurds with gas and destroyed the whole environment and hence culture of the Marsh Arabs. The UN has determined that he owns weapons of mass destruction and over 12 years and in 17 unanimous resolutions of the security coincil has ordered Iraq to disarm. The insspections and Saddams recent destruction of a few missiles (that he said didnt exist up to 2 weeks ago) have only happened because UK and US troops sit on the doorstep. We cannot keep them there indefinately and if the pressure comes off even! the most tardy disarming will stop; that much must be obvious even to you. If you believe in the UN, you believe in the international rule of law. The UK,US, Canada, Spain, Bulgaria etc have the courage to act on the UN resolutions, to support the international rule of law. Those who dare not take the risk pay lip service and seek to exploit your political ignorance for their gain. Who did what in the past is irrelevant in relation to a wish to disarm Iraq. If you can, think again. Dave LSE
David Armstrong-Temple <davestrong2@yahoo.com>
Kensungton, London - Saturday, March 08, 2003 at 01:09:16 (PST)
his site is very interesting but i would like to have seen more of the football pictures but there was sadly only one which i could see
paul baird <bairdpaul87@hotmail.com>
seaham, durham england - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 15:51:00 (PST)
Dear "Victoria"....Well, Well, well,....What a muddle I get myself into with all my opinions of "this and that." To be perfectly honest....I am more than disappointed with George Bush..So are many Christians (especially Catholics of this country) None of us can understand why he (and Blair) are hell-bent on pushing for this War. I have several friends who are Military (some retired Colonel's - others who have been sent off to Iraq...)I am very concerned for these men and women... If we go to War, God only knows if Saddam will indeed use Chemical and Biological Warfare weapons..and the outcome would be horrific for all! Also, it is instigating other countries and of course, concerning other neighboring countries of the middle east. I just hope this does not bring us into a world war 3! Not only are we facing the crisis of Iraq, USA are facing a bigger danger with North Korea who openly admit they are building Nuclear Weapons (and Will Indeed use them on USA soil. One of the Nuclear weapons already is strong enough to reach the west coast of American.) We are not far away from having a War! with North Korea if Bush and his advisors do not get it together. I am just so torn and disappointed with Bush (and with Blair) But again, who is to know if we had another President or another British Prime Minister that they would be doing things differently. Who is to know what the right answer to this crisis is...it is a complete "catch 22" At this time the people I feel sorry for are the soldiers out there and their families left behind wondering if their loved ones are going to come back safe or not. This is Lent time, I think we all need to focus our prayers on world peace and peace in general - with everyone! Because right now, the world is in a big mess!.......Anyway, have a nice day... God Bless,
Jacqueline
USA - Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 15:49:52 (PST)
FOR THE GARDEN OF YOUR DAILY LIVING PLANT THREE ROWS OF PEAS: 1- Peace of mind 2- Peace of heart 3- Peace of soul PLANT FOUR ROWS OF SQUASH: 1-Squash gossip 2-Squash indifference 3-Squash grumbling 4-Squash selfishness. PLANT FOUR ROWS OF LETTUCE: 1-Lettuce be faithful 2-Lettuce be kind 3-Lettuce be patient. 4-Lettuce really love one another. NO GARDEN SHOULD BE WITHOUT TURNIPS; 1-Turip for meetings 2-Turnip for service 3-Turnip to help one another. TO CONCLUDE OUR GARDEN WE MUST HAVE THYME: 1-Thyme for each other 2-Thyme for family 3-thyme for friends. WATER FREELY WITH PATIENCE AND CULTIVATE WITH LOVE. THERE IS MUCH FRUIT IN YOUR GARDEN BECAUSE YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.
Brian B <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
- Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 15:49:08 (PST)
Been ages since I have been on the guest book, it never changes though, now and again someone comes in and tries to steer the comments away from Markie, but she always manages to get back in and give everyone the sermon. If you are as busy as you say you are with your callings how come you can spend so much time on the guest book? I do agree with one comment that most people just want you to be quiet, either you dont read other peoples comments or you are very thick skinned.
seaham lass
- Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 15:47:08 (PST)
Dear Jocka - how sharp you are! You deserve a medal - or something. As for the people of an immigrant town not liking immigrants - it's called 'pulling up the drawbridge now we're safe' isn't it?
Dr Pangloss
- Thursday, March 06, 2003 at 15:45:59 (PST)
Dear Jacqueline. I hope your God does bring you the "in and out" you so deserve. I'll pray for you. The best of luck!
Father Corrigan
- Wednesday, March 05, 2003 at 06:32:03 (PST)
Dear Jacqueline, hello. It was interesting to read your message to Mactabbash. He isn't the only person to agree with you that we're probably going to war, it seems that your President is hell bent on that, and we all get the news, so you don't need to tell us about that man's missions. U.S. news is notoriously heavily censored, and we don't need convincing of that man's narrow outlooks. However if it seems to you that only you two are pro-war (and I'm not saying that you are, it seems that that was your impression) then that probably reflects public opinion. Most people in the U.K., Europe and the U.S. are against this war. I really can't believe the cheek of George Bush saying that he's defending democracy when he wants to act against the interests of most of his nation, and he wasn't even democratically elected himself. As a Christian I was pleased that the Pope and Prodestant Church Leaders are against the war. Arguments about Saddam's governing are suspect, when! you remember that the U.S. sold him those weapons, Winston Churchill attacked the Kurds (making us no better than Saddam in that respect); the U.S. aren't interested in other tyrants e.g. the situation in Zimbabwe. Iraq played no part in the tradgedy of September 11th. Saudi played a huge part, and it's hypocritical that Iraq is being held to account while other nations' activities are tolerated, overlooked, or actively supported when it's in the interests of the West. I could go on, but I don't think this is the correct forum. Just to say that I don't know if you heard the results of a U.K. opinion poll a couple of weeks back, when U.K. citizens were asked to name the country that they thought was the greatest threat to world peace. Iraq didn't top the list, the U.S. did. If you want to look behind the scenes at some recent interesting U.S. history then maybe you would be interested in doing a google search on the Marshall Islands. Peace.
Victoria McCabe <v.mccabe@ab.sac.ac.uk>
- Wednesday, March 05, 2003 at 06:31:17 (PST)
Aha Pangloss, bastion of all things pure and English. Suddenly you have become a man for all nationalities. How many faces can a faceless personality possess? Retreat to bedsit land or tell us more.
Mac Tabash
- Wednesday, March 05, 2003 at 06:29:04 (PST)
Jacqueline pet, we know that war preparations are being made. Stop trying to make out you're not stating the obvious. Billy O'Reilly, I too make a pain of myself by confronting rascism whenever I encounter it. All of us should.
Bunyards Exhibition
- Wednesday, March 05, 2003 at 06:27:27 (PST)
"Mactabish" So do you think the Iraqis will come over to England as refugees and Asylum Seekers? As well as go to other countries in Europe and possibly America? Yes, you are right, it will be a very interesting to see the outcome of all of this. I think you are the only person on this Guest-Book who agrees with me, that we ARE at somepoint, SOON going to invade Iraq.... Everyone seems to think because of the Peace Demonstrations that War will be avoided. I don't think so! ALL POLITICANS AND GOVERNMENTS HAVE AN AGENDER OF THEIR OWN - AND THEY WILL DO AS THEY PLEASE REGARDLESS OF WHAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THINK. Bush and Blair have their own agender.... I am telling you people, We will go to War and we all know that it will be castrophic! (Or perhaps it will be a short "in and out.") Nobody knows...it is all a "wait and see."..... Anyway, hope you all are having a super day.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 04:50:19 (PST)
This is brilliant! You could not make it up if you tried. Was that a mistake Dr Pangloss (actually I've long suspected he's a she)or did you mean to spell "word" "worde"?. MacTabash, please let me know where I can join the Bath party! It sounds like my kind of organisation, I've got my own soap and flannel so you can leave yours at home. Then moi confirms his own argument that it was the thickos who went abroad. Just think about it mate. If you want to know the population of a place which government organisation collects and publishes it? A clue..OPCS. As for "The Taboo" I thought it was a girlie drink, no? It's quite rich hearing people from Seaham talking about Asylum Seekers, Immigrants or Economic Migrants (BTW that's what I also call my Welsh colleague)when "they" from such a small percentage of the local population. I think drafting in a few hundred Eyracky Kurds who were prepared to graft could do wonders for the local economy plus they've probably got some good channels to the international drug dealers. All spelling mastikes and poor granma are acknwoledged as my responsibility. Jocka
jocka willis <jocka@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 04:48:30 (PST)
The point about opposing racism is that you do it every time it pops it's head up. It may be a yawn to some but it's a real issue to the rest of us. I'm happy to plead guilty to irritating and upsetting racists. The more I do it the happier I am. It's a sad coment on some Seaham people's attitudes that they want to defend these repellant ideas. Seaham's an immigrant town who's forgotten it's beginnings. Let's not stand by and see this GB fill up with small, cruel, snide racist cracks. Believe me, everytime you people show your colours there'll be someone here to criticise you. If you don't like it, that's good because very few people like you very much. Racism may be alive and well and acceptable in your circle but there're people around who'll make you uncomfortable for the rest of your days.
Billy O'Reilly
- Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 04:45:51 (PST)
O' Really, you have your own very bigotted views about your townsfolk. What makes you think you are beter than anyone else buddy? Your arrogance is astounding. Eat some humble pie and try loving those around you. They may not be perfect but they deserve respect. Your facist tendancies are revealed in everything you write, there is always time to mend your ways.
daniel wuchenich <danwuch@hotmail.com>
buffalo, new york usa - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 04:44:34 (PST)
Here we go again. Someone writes half a sentence on The Taboo subject and we get the predictable racist and bigot jibes. What nonsense and what a yawn. Its impossible to have grown up debate with these people so change the subject please.
Steve Bell ex Seaham
Doncaster, - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 13:03:53 (PST)
NotThomasJohnson, Yes I'm still around (well sort of) but never long enough at home to get down to any serious drinking or socialising! haven't been back to the Mountain for nearly 12 Months, but have enjoyed the occasional beer at the H.V. must admit I'm curious about someone who "adopted" me (in name only) we will have that pint, why won't you pay? are you Scottish Laddie? nice to see Tony from Spain hasn't lost his touch. I think there's a wee bit of Scottish in him too.
Thomas Johnson
Seaham, - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 13:01:50 (PST)
Why do I get the impression that Mr MacTabash has at some time been described as a fool and someone who ought to 'get a life'? When he talks about life teaching him a thing or two is he referring to the 'university of life'? That mythical establishment that the undereducated enjoy refrerring to. Try to remember, Mr MacTabash, there's a world of difference between your point of view and the concept of 'fact'. That's exactly what university would have taught you. Now go on, tell me you're a graduate!
Theresa Green
- Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:59:33 (PST)
Well Billy boy, the way I worded my reply to Oz, I guess I asked for that. But you couldnt be more wrong. If everyone who has a genuine concern with our current immigration problems is to labelled a pop tart-loving bigot then I guess I will just have to stand up and be counted. I wont loose any sleep over the odd misguided liberal who thinks otherwise. Heres something serious for you to think about. It looks highly likely that at some stage in the near future Iraq will be invaded. It seems highly unlikely that Sadam or his Bath Party will be allowed to remain in power. When that happens what do you think will happen to Sadams backers, his secret police the half million informers who have been his eyes and ears over past few decades. Do you think they will still be welcome in Iraq? If not where do you think they will go? With Bushs regime change finally in place, do you think those who came here to escape the nightmare of Sadams Iraq will then go home? A sponge c! an only soak up so much water. Stop jumping on your soapbox and start thinking beyond yesterday.
MacTabash
- Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:16:10 (PST)
O'heck O'Reilly. Do you ever have anything constructive to add to any arguement. You sound more like a hard done by Irishman than a Seaham lad.
Tommy
- Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:14:50 (PST)
After reading the posts feel a comment is necessary.Many people who could not make it in England, jobs, poor work ethic,lack of ability,unable to compete,etc left for the United States where they were given to understand that their narrow knowledge of the world would be welcome.Some did leave for the sense of adventure , because employment ended, and such.However, those who stayed in England are truly the brightest and the strongest.Good luck to all in Seaham. I hope to visit in the Fall.If it is anything like my last visit I'll be more than happy.In case you are interested I left as I married a Canadian that I meet in University.
moi
canada - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:13:55 (PST)
I don't believe that anyone was the son of God so is it ok to post here? I'm interested in knowing what the population (#"s) is in Seaham Harbour,what the employment figures are.Any help greatly appreciated. TIA.
moi
canada - Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:12:44 (PST)
Well said Mr O'Reilly - to the point as usual. Interesting to see how MacTabash insists that his life, family, friends and country are all 'fine'. This panicky rush to self justification makes me feel that he "doth protest too much". What's the betting Billy, that this is a man of low education and high self esteem - the classic Seaham combination of stupidity and bombast. On a more serious note - MacTabash - for the misspelling of the worde 'hordes' - six months hard Labour!
Dr Pangloss
- Monday, March 03, 2003 at 12:11:36 (PST)
So, MacTabash, you're not a bigot eh? Just against immigrants........ What do you want? Everyone who comes to live in England has to behave like an English person? Wear the trainers, read the Sun, eat cup-a-soups and pop tarts? When you lived abroad did you slavishly copy every gesture of the locals? If you don't like immigrants - say so. If you have nothing against immigrants then leave them alone to get on with their lives. The BNP don't have the monopoly on bigotry.
Billy O'Reilly
- Sunday, March 02, 2003 at 01:29:53 (PST)
This site should be an Ex-pats free zone. For example do we have to put up with the nonsensical ramblings of that Religious maniac miss Markie and her equally deranged cronies from Oz and Spain
John Bull
- Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:22:57 (PST)
Oz B, go back and read my entry of Feb 14 again bonny lad. I was paying you ex pats a compliment for being able to adopt a new country. If I was having a go at anyone it was the hoards of immigrants coming into the UK. I can easily dismiss Mad Markie's lunatic comments. Nothing she says is worthy of a reply. But hey, dont you go lumping me alongside that BNP bigot Bull. For your info I left Seaham 40 years ago. Spent many of those years abroad. I am now enjoying life back in the UK actively avoiding anything to do with work. Life has taught me a thing or two about people. Those who say they dont suffer fools gladly are usually fools themselves. Something similar can be read across to those who tell others to get a life. My life, my family, my friends and my country are all fine. Hope you can say the same.
MacTabash <no way>
o k, UK - Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:22:15 (PST)
to any of the seaham show organisers, would it be possible tfor our band to play the show this year
next pistols <next_pistols@hotmail.com>
seaham, - Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:20:32 (PST)
Jacqueline, have you ever heard of the expression 'some of the people who go to church are actually Christians'? You don't have to be a Christian to be a good person. I'm a practising Catholic myself but I don't feel the need to bang on about it so that other people will think I'm a righteous person. Your obsession with Islam is scaring me. You're always bleating on about it. Fear of a black planet or what? So what if it's the fastest growing religion in the UK? You obviously know nothing about it when you write that Muslims grow up knowing nothing about Jesus. He's a prophet in Islam. And Jedi is one of the fastest growing religions in the UK, but that doesn't seem to bother you. Your xenophobia against Muslims scares me. I'm only comforted by the fact that it appears that even the few people who can be bothered to read your messages seem to dismiss them. Seaham isn't a violent scary place, unless you're afraid of your own shadow. stop beleiving everything george Bu! sh tells you - he's a liar. Stupid white men was voted the number one UK book last year, despite the fact the U.S. tried to ban it. Even if we're not all church goers there's hope for us yet.
Bunyard's Exhibition
- Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:19:10 (PST)
Markie, That last sermon by yourself was absolute and utter crap! You know everything about Seaham yet live thousands of miles away by reading the Sunderland Echo - it says it all. I LIVE in Seaham and i'm not scared to go out or scared in my own home. I have never gone to church but i'm not some drug fuelled phsyco. You really have lost grip on reality. Your not a saint by just believing in Jesus. People believe in what they want and don't like someone like you saying 'it's your way or the highway'. I have a circle of friends of upto 15 who all live in Seaham - some mrried, single and divorced and yet none are drug addicts. What I suggest is you set up you own Guestbook and leave the Seaham Guestbook for good. Does it never dawn on you that whenever you post on this guestbook over 90% of the reaction is for you to shut your cakehole
Harbour Lad
Seaham, - Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:17:15 (PST)
Jac, It's funny, looking at the news from the lost colonies from the UK most people would decry the so called mindless violence that takes place in your adopted countries cities and express exactly the same sentiments you've expressed about Seaham. They are probably also staggered by the way the majority of the populace of the US is reported to be behind the warmongers Bush and Blair when 90% of them have no idea where eyerack is. Mind you that goes for 90% of people everywhere, can anyone name the countries that border Iraq ( without consulting an atlas ). Stealing, taking drugs etc is a lifestyle choice these days, I find it as understandable as this current music being called R&B but I can't say condemn people who may have little choice in what they do. You've been very fortunate to be able to make different life choices that mean you can avoid that kind of life. Maybe it's time for you to undertake a mission? How about doing the work in Seaham?
Jocka Willis <jocka@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:15:51 (PST)
Ah yes Jacqueline. We must all be grateful that America is such a Christian country. Just imagine what self centred war mongers the Americans would be if they didn't have "God on their side". Perish the thought!
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, February 28, 2003 at 14:13:59 (PST)
I often go on the "Sunderlandecho.com" just to see what is going on locally back home. I am so tired of reading nothing but "violence" going on either in Seaham or in Sunderland. All I can say, is the young ones, must be so bored out of their minds that they have nothing else to do other than be "hooligans!" What on earth are the parents teaching these children? Even my parents were saying that in Seaham you are not even safe in your own home! It is very frightening in Seaham these days. Even my mom was saying that St. John's church, which use to be filled with young ones when I was younger, now have no young ones attend church. No young families in their 20's or 30's, no youth groups for teenagers, or Sunday School for the little children.....no wonder Seaham is in a moral mess regarding our youth. Here in America we have more than our fair share of violence, teen pregnancy, homicide, etc... However, at least on Sundays, no matter where you go, whether you are Prote! stant or Catholic the churches are filled with hundreds of families at each service. There are always youth groups for teenagers, young adult groups for those in college age (18-22) and single groups for those of us in our 30's.....Each group focus's on the principles of the Bible....as well as fun social events. For the teens, the groups focus on moral issues, and outreach programs so to keep the kids off the streets, and to teach them about helping others. No wonder England is having a crisis with Christianity.....Did you know that in England the growing number ONE Religion is now Islam. Whcih means about 3/4 of the people in England do not even believe in Jesus Christ that he is the Son of God. I can bet out of the people I went to school with, only a handful take their children to church and introduce them to the Christian faith - to Jesus.(I wonder if John Armes takes his children to Church? He always went to church when he was a kid; but does he take his children to chur! ch?) No wonder Seaham is in a big mess with the youth today as they have absolutely no regard to Human Life or Human Dignity. They are bored, little, lost souls who get their kicks from either robbing, mugging, killing, or using drugs of some kind or another. Seaham was not this bad when I was at home during the 70's and the first 1/2 of the 80's or so. It has just got worse! And I blame the parents! Half of the parents are teenagers themselves and have no idea how to raise children with morals and respect to human life. The other half who are not teenage parents, I feel sorry for, trying to raise their children in "that!" Those who are "Adults" who have children need to help the kids find themselves, in order to prevent a vicious cycle of "violence" in Seaham. What a mess!
Jacqueline
USA - Thursday, February 27, 2003 at 07:43:51 (PST)
Dicky Thorpe, are you Tom Moreland in disguise? He is always banging on about his pride in coming from Seaham. The rest of us know that it's more of an ailment than an achievement. All I can say is that Sunderland nightlife must be pretty dreadful, if you are travelling to the Harbour on Friday evenings...
Kinky John
- Tuesday, February 25, 2003 at 13:56:38 (PST)
John Bull , you are full of it , England is a great country , pity you can't spell it . Mac Tabash , I have been back for 3 months , yes I was cold . I was born with a sense of humour which has never left me and no doubt armed me for the life challenges my future had for me , and if you have never left little old Seaham you are the poorer for it , both of you please get a life , Oz-Brian
Oz Brian
South Australia - Tuesday, February 25, 2003 at 13:55:56 (PST)
You can't keep blaming yourself. Just blame yourself once, and move on. (Homer Simpson)
SimpsonsQuotes <tom@hotmail.com>
USA - Monday, February 24, 2003 at 03:53:39 (PST)
Tony from Spain - "rudiments of grammer" - nice irony with the deliberate but well placed misspelling! By the way. Are you Antonio, all on your own-io, from Barcelon-io, where nuts are grown-io? I was wondering!
Billy O,Reilly
- Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 16:07:12 (PST)
Nice one Theresa, but I was born and raised in Seaham, and proud of it, which is one reason why I like to see the guestbook used for its original purpose; still pay a visit home every Friday eve and two/three weekends per month,
Richard Thorpe
Sunderland, - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 16:06:26 (PST)
SCHOOL REUNION- School leavers of Camden Square Secondary 1968/69 there is a reunion to be held in The Marlbrough, Seaham Harbour (function room) Fri 25th April 2003 (Email me for arrival time). Please bring old school pics.
Shirley Baron Mayes <shirleybaron@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 16:05:28 (PST)
I am really tired of reading from those of you who are still in Seaham getting "upset" or "miffed" at those of us who left Seaham for one reason or another, and made another life for ourselves either in another country or in another place in England. So Bloody What! What is the big deal about that? Why are you getting so "miffed" about it?...............Unless, it is because you did not have the courage, or the "zest" to want to do the same thing when you were younger; and it really does not matter. We are all unique individuals, each with our own agender and goal in life. We all had our reasons for moving away from Seaham. Of course, those of us who moved away have made a "new" life for ourselves. Of course, we no longer live the same kind of life/environment as we did in Seaham. Life changes as one moves around and explores the world - people change when they have the opportunity to explore the world and broaden their horizons. I just have no idea why some people ! are making such a big deal about those of us who have moved away from Seaham. Unless, it could be perhaps because you have realized that we now have very little in common as we use to before we moved away and grew up! and explored our world outside of Seaham's back gardens. You know, my sister and I love each other very much, but because I moved away and she stayed, it is true that we do see life on a very different level at times. That is because I, unfortunately, or fortunately, however one wants to look at, have become "Americanized" and just have a different out look on life. My point is, of course those of us who moved away from Seaham are not the same young teenagers as we were when we were living at home. We moved away, grew up, have been given a different perspective of life and we have changed. That is the end of the story! So stop getting on our cases that we moved away from Seaham and now think we are the "Cats Whiskers." We don't at all! I think it is you guys who ! are still Seaham and who are bored with your lives are just jealous. The majority of people in Seaham have jobs and are fulfilled and do not make an issue of those of us who moved away, The people who are making issues, are just plain bored with their lives and are jealous. So grow up! and do something productive with your lives in Seaham. Work at Northlea School as a "mentor" to the teenagers and help them to stay off the drugs, or teach the kids not to "dabble" in sexual activities until they are out of school, out of college and until they are mature enough to raise a baby. If you are bored in Seaham, go and do something good for the community. But for pizza sake! Stop whinning and complaining. Be thankful for your blessings. Have a super, happy day everyone and find something to SMILE about! :)
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 16:03:05 (PST)
England oh England,land of my birth. Spare me from the slavva of ex-pats. Wipe your chins Markie and Oz Brian Engand is the best country in the world.
John Bull
Seaham, Merry England - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 10:45:42 (PST)
So-called 'John Bull' I think you need one or two of us back if only to teach you the rudiments of grammer,not to mention your spelling and how can you have so much hate for people you have not even met.
Tony from Spain
Espana - Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 10:44:46 (PST)
Richard Thorpe! This is a local site for local people! You Sunderland city slickers are all the same. For your information we are NOT looking!
Theresa Green
- Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 10:43:47 (PST)
Oz Brian thanks for your comments, which simply add weight to my argument that most Brits will settle just about anywhere and adopt their new country. Nowt wrong with that marra, or should I say cobber? As for the Agro bit. I think you must have spent too much time stood upside down in the sun. Try coming back here for a few weeks. You will soon cool down and maybe get you sense of humour back.
Mac Tabash
- Thursday, February 20, 2003 at 14:08:20 (PST)
As long as there are guestbooks in operation, you will get misuse of them, e.g. the rantings and ravings of Ms. Markie and others. If the guestbook was edited in accordance with its original concept(for Seaham Harbour people around the world to keep in touch, to find each other, to explore their roots and to share cherished recollections), you would not see such offerings. Wouldn't that be nice?
Richard Thorpe <thorpe53.freeserve.co.uk>
Sunderland, Tyne and Wear England - Thursday, February 20, 2003 at 14:07:32 (PST)
John Bull - for failure to correctly spell 'realise' and 'obviously' - Six months hard Labour. For Brian Oz - punctuational incontinence and failure to correctly spell 'off' - Six months hard Labour. For Tim Noble - for being utter stupid - invasion by a vastly superior force on a flimsy pretext. The court is now adjourned!
Dr Pangloss
- Thursday, February 20, 2003 at 14:06:00 (PST)
Tommy ! This is my country of choice with Australian citizenship which I am proud of , nothing fake about me . I am also proud of my Pommie heritage , you must be brain dead to lump me with Markie , get of the drugs mate
Oz Brian
South Australia - Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 08:54:03 (PST)
I hate ex-pats! Forever singing the praises of the wonderful new life they have found for themselves across the sea. What they fail to relise is..nobody cares less. This country abviously does not need you and can function with out you so get lost you traitors. Whatever you have got to say keep it to yourselves.
John Bull
Seaham, Merry England - Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 08:53:12 (PST)
I don't remember T Noble's grocery store at 4 Wynyard Street
Tim Noble
Seaham, - Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 08:51:50 (PST)
Oz-Brian, if you are an ex-Pat why do you knock the Brits? You're really nothing more than a Plastic Aussie, ie. a fake one, along the same lines as Markie I suppose, you are both in Limbo and don't really know what you are or how you got there, do you?
Tommy
- Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 16:18:53 (PST)
Does anyone remember T Noble's grocery store at 4 Wynyard Street?
Derek Tait <derektait@elvis.com>
Plymouth, Devon England - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 01:11:43 (PST)
Pangloss is insane after all. I wonder who he thinks he is Dr No, Goldfinger, or even Dr Who?
Critics Choice
- Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 01:10:16 (PST)
Yo - Tommy , just a blip mate . Mactabash , the ex cons remark suggests a bad taste in the mouth and a bit of agro, lighten up , Regards Oz-Brian
Oz Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Tuesday, February 18, 2003 at 01:09:35 (PST)
Hi guys & gals, I'm looking for some relatives by the name of Maddison in Seaham/New Seaham.....can anyone help?
Mike Potts <gadsby3@hotmail.com>
Fredericksburg, Texas - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 08:02:04 (PST)
Great site. I was wondering whether you could add a picture of 14a Byron Terrace. Please it would mean so much to me and my family.
Maureen Poole <hellodolandmo@aol>
Brentwood, Essex England - Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 07:59:30 (PST)
It's a free world if I say it is Manners! Critics Choice - there's an ''e' in 'donkey'. If you don't all do as you're told I shall be round with my boys. They're painting the ambulances brown even as I speak! Last new year I made a resolution ....... don't make me do it again!
Dr Pangloss
- Sunday, February 16, 2003 at 07:58:22 (PST)
It's not a free world if you are going to dictate is it Dr Pangloss.
Miss Manners
Canada - Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 15:27:46 (PST)
French-nay, nay, and thrice nay Pangloss. Look how you spell attack in your epistle. You are a donky who wants to lead lions.
Critics Choice
- Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 15:26:20 (PST)
Recently I have become the Spelling Leader of The Free World. You must all accept my corrections to your grammar without question and in future do as I tell you. Anyone who fails to agree with me is clearly 'Old English', burnt out and a spent force. On that subject. Critics Choice. - "There is more poor people". You should have written "There ARE more poor people". Unless you can prove that you have no other grammatical errors about your person I will atack you with merciless words. I will send my inspectors in if I have to! Are you French by any chance.....?
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:34:19 (PST)
What is it with us Brits? We move off to another country and then adopt that countrys customs, politics and way of life as if it is second nature to us. We have Jackie raving on about the almighty crusading righteousness of good old Uncle Sam. We have El Tony who is obviously full of the joys of Spanish life and Oz Brian who seems to pop up and gloat every time those ex cons stuff us at some sport or other. On the other side of the coin, why is it that just about any nationality can migrate to our shores but even after many years of living here many of these people seem unable to adapt to the British culture?
MacTabash
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:33:21 (PST)
This is the last message I'll send you Jacqueline, because this guestbook isn't supposed to be for this kind of waffle, but your entries beggar belief. Firstly you annoy me by trying to give an intelligent argument and then refering to Muslims as Islams. If you're going to talk about people at least address them with respect. There are no such people as Islams. Islam is the faith and it's followers are Muslims. My second point is you talk about removing governments that violate human rights. Firstly why do you think the U.S. has the right to remove governments, and secondly don't you think Michael Stewart's family would have something to say about U.S. justice. For crying out loud, George Bush wasn't even democratically elected. That he says he stands for democracy and then says that we're either with him or else we're the enemy is a contradiction that surely even you can get your head around. Now I've got that over and done with I've nothing left to say.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:31:59 (PST)
Jackie , Bush is starting to come accross as a dictator also.. What does he think hes playing at threatening to pull out troops from Germany, and placing sanctions on French imports, just because they didn't agree with him and wanted more weapons inspectors to go to iraq.
not ati anyone
here, england - Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:30:23 (PST)
Miss Manners, I've had a long think about it and I've decided that you talk utter drivel..
Ned Leather
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:29:03 (PST)
Yo Brian - I saw a Rugby match a while back
Tommy Marshall
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 13:28:25 (PST)
What is Mary Mac doing about the poor and destitute around American Cities. There is more poor people with nowhere to live in the U.S. than anywhere else on the planet. She should preach war-talk to them rather than people like use who have lived through wars.
Critics Choice
- Friday, February 14, 2003 at 08:36:41 (PST)
Ijust watched a football match England 1 Australia 3 whoops regards - Oz-Brian
Oz Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:56:58 (PST)
What a nice surprise to revisit the guestbook after almost a year to find a philosophical debate (mind you, that Ms Markie's rants haven't changed. End of the world..!)Tom Moreland. You seem to mix up pride and responsibility. How can you claim pride for things you're not responsible for? I don't see your logic. Old Doc P uses lots of words but he does have a point. Maybe we need a philosophical debate on the nature of 'pride'. What exactly do we mean by it?
Tony Cresswell
- Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:55:07 (PST)
Jacqueline....Marymarkie...or whoever you are. It is people like you with your constant warbling about all the forboding " maybe's "that put fear and unrest in the minds of all people, children and adults alike. Some people still have faith in some things,it is obvious that you have NONE. Not even in the God you keep telling people to pray to. It is people like you who also feed the enemies minds with ideas that they are being very successful in destroying this country. So why don't you just keep your thoughts to yourself, stop putting them on this friendly guestbook, in fact just SHUT UP, get on with your own life and let people enjoy this place which they visit for good information and friendship. Go set up a soapbox in Central Park or somewhere where you will find plenty of like doom spouters who will listen to you.
Julie
Morrisville, PA USA - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:54:05 (PST)
Miss Manners, would Daphney crescent, and the name Pat hit the nail on the head. If so, our Marlene says hi.
Tom Moreland <V>
London, - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:52:28 (PST)
What I find interesting with this issue of whether to go to War with Iraq or whether Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.....is the fact that the United Nations insist on having more time to do their job. When really, their job is done! We have proof Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and had no intentions of disarming. So why then are the United Nations wanting to give Saddam Hussain more time? In directly, they are proctecting Saddam Hussain and "stalling" the time we need to oust out Saddam and his regime. ............... I disagree with the new Bishop of Durham saying that Bush and Blair are Christians, yet are pushing for this war. This was not originally about having a War of "Christianity verses Islam." (Osma Bin Laden actually was the one who began that, by his personal involvment in the September 11th attacks and proclaiming this a "Holy War.").... This war is about "oil" (Which I am not saying is right.) This war is also about getting rid of regimes that! violate Human Rights. (Though, we also should oust out North Korean's President too and all other leaders who violate Human Rights.) Saddam's actions are too close to such regimes as Nazi, Stalin and other fascist regimes. This is NOT an "American War" as I have heard some British and other Europeans express. In fact, it is the Islams who have decided to make it a "Holy War" A war of Religion. .............. My curiosity lies wondering why the United Nations who are suppose to be Peace Keepers, are indirectly protecting Saddam Hussain and his regime. We have already seen the proof we need that Saddam has weapons of Mass Destruction and that he is willing to use them. So, why are we allowing this tyrant to continue? He should have been ousted out 12 years ago in the first Gulf War. At the rate we are going, Saddam and his family will choose to live in Exile and live a very decent, cushy life, leaving, again his people to face clearing up his mess after him. So the arguement I! put forth is: Should Saddam be given Exile as an alternative to war? Will it prevent terrorist attacks? Should we go to war and oust out Saddam and face the consequenses of our soldiers being faced with Chemical attacks as well as serious warfare attacks on our countries? Or, do we allow the United Nations to take over? (I say definately not the United Nations - they want to appear to be the peace-keepers - I am not so sure anymore.)As for the French and Germans, we all know they do a lot of trading with Iraq - they have too much money to lose if they vote to go to war with Iraq. We all want peace in our world, but by ousting out Saddam - Are we then going to have peace? Remember too, that America will be in control of Iraq and American government is also part of the "New World Order." Now interesting enough, North Korea pose a much worse threat to the USA, yet Bush chooses to solve the issue with North Korea only by "diplomacy." Perhaps that is because Bush knows North Kore! a can and will blow us to pieces! The USA are allowing to be "Blackmailed" by North Korea. Bush told the UN Security Council today that he does not want "sanctions" put on North Korea - he knows too well North Korea has said "sanctions" means a declaration of War on the USA. Interesting how Bush is "picking" his battles. Once we start messing with the Communist regime - we have had it! God Help Us!......
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:51:08 (PST)
Jacqueline, you seem to be whipping yourself up into some kind of a frenzy. You keep writing 'what did I tell you?', as if you aren't just repeating things from the telly, but are telling us things first hand. Well you're not. And I keep writing we don't need you to keep us 'informed'. We have our own news coverage and we don't need your biased and confused version of events. I wonder what the good people of Nagasaki and Hiroshoma would make of the U.S.'s protestations about other nations' nuclear capabilities. P.S. Ed, please type this message, you seem to be censoring me again, and I dn't think I'm typing anything offensive. Ta!
Bunyards Exhibition
- Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:49:16 (PST)
hello im kitto i dont know what this a about but i like ships and i like harbours
katie cook <gothickatw@bigpond.com>
maitland, NSW Australia - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:48:10 (PST)
Ned Leather, it is rye comments like yours, which make north-eastern people welcome everywhere. Regards TOM
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:45:32 (PST)
Jackie, do everyone a favour find yourself a guestbook for talking birds or rattling old wheelbarrows. My Aunty Marys parrot repeats it's self less than you do.
Isaac
- Thursday, February 13, 2003 at 15:44:25 (PST)
So, what did I tell you all? Didn't I say that this issue with Iraq would have serious consequences and trigger much unrest in other countries. Well, now Iran has announced it is preparing chemicals for Nuclear weapons. India and Parkistan are again having "words" and the biggest thing at the moment is that the North Korea issue has gone to the UN Security Council and if the Security Council put sanctions on North Korea, North Korea has said that would mean a "declaration of War against America." Oh, we are in a big global and political frenzy! There is even a divertion with NATO and with other allies. That is not to mention these serious Chemical terror threats we are on alert for at the moment. I have seen on televison the reports of Heathrow Airport. Oh, in the financial times, (British newspaper) I was reading on the plane this past weekend, French Prime Minister Jacques Chirac had said, "He wants the United Nations to be the Policeman of the "New World Order.".! .... What did I tell you, people, about a year ago or so, about the "One World Government" and that we would slowly have our freedom taken away from us. It is also the Islam goal to "rid of all the Infidels" (Christians.) This war with Iraq is triggering way too much unrest within other countries, and I can almost bet that by the end of next year we will be on the verge of WW3 and a Nuclear War. We are living the end times now...It is obvious! Just look around you, look at out youth..they have very little example of morals. Kids are killing kids, killing adults, there is no respect for human life or human dignity. We are also in a global recession (though, the Politicans will tell you otherwise.)We are so far off track...Our world is a mess! What on earth is the right thing to do? Do we go to War? Or do we not? Who is to know what the right answer is....because at this present time, the extreme Islams have got it in for us. Our hands are tied... We all need to turn ourselves! back to God ASAP!!! Our society is just out of control! Anyway......I hope all is well with everyone. I hope you are all keeping safe. At this time, let us keep our Soldiers in our prayers. I cannot even begin to imagine how frightening it must be for those young men and women; and when they return, they are still going to need lots of prayers. I only hope and pray that they do not suffer the pains of Chemical warfare. My heart goes out to all the families who have sons, daughters, moms and dads and other family members preparing to fight this war.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:28:39 (PST)
So Tom - just to reiterate - is it safe to say that you feel proud?
Ned Leather
Nortylea, - Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:27:10 (PST)
Will the real Daniel Wuchenich please stand up? ..buffalo indeed! My tenner says that your real name is Fred and you live in Parkside...
Kinky John
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:26:04 (PST)
Tom thank you for putting in words how most of us ex's feel .I happen to know you and your family very well (from a long time ago )You said how we all feel without having to resort to opening a dictionary .Dr Pangloss is a fool .Thank goodness we have people like you to keep us grounded.
Miss Manners
canada - Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:24:50 (PST)
Thomas Johnson - you still around? You owe me a pint if I recall. If my memory serves me well, I remember you saying that you were back in Seaham. Well?
Not Thomas Johnson
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:23:19 (PST)
Oh Daniel. I see you've been watching films again. Let me guess - something to do with 'The Lord of the Rings'? It's not true life you know, it's a cinematic fantasy. Like 'Saving Private Ryan' for instance. Perhaps you're a little alarmed at the thought of looking inside yourself........ not sure whether anyone will be at home?
Dr Pangloss
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:22:33 (PST)
You take notice of what our Tommy says, at least Tony prints his name so called 'wise one', we have yet to see any words of wisdom from you on this guest book. It is obvious you have no idea what life is like for me and my brothers in this beautiful sunny country. Arthur from Spain (Tommy's brother, who is Tony's brother)
Arthur (Tony's other brother)
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:21:40 (PST)
Hey Belly O'really don't mention it buddy. Humble guys like you and Dr Pee always get my vote you are such good fun.
daniel wuchenich <danwuch@hotmail.com>
buffalo, new york usa - Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:19:26 (PST)
This is a good read, but I can't find anything about you in Northern Review...... An old tramp that had used up all his walking legs lived in a hand build shack on the foreshore of Hawthorn beach, I remember his name as being Ned. The new owner of the land - a sea coal baron - had taken pity on Ned, employing him as a sort of beach watchman. Ned was a fine old chap, keeping us entertained for hours on end, by telling stories of his escapades while he was on the road. Teenagers can be very foolish. As John and I were going swimming at Hawthorn beach, and I had sneaked my father's inflatable boat (an old air-sea rescue dinghy,) out of the house to take with us. Playing on the beach was good fun, even more so with having the boat. Diving into the water from the inflatable and generally messing about, the time flew by. Looking toward the shore I could see Ned shouting, and pointing out to sea. Turning around, I could see black clouds starting to cover the sea; it looked as if Hell's cauldrons were boiling over. A 'squall' was bearing down on us, worse still; it was coming from the north. Jumping into the water, John and I started to push the inflatable dinghy toward the shore as the sea started to lift. Fearing for his life, John told me to sod the boat and save myself. Leaving me hanging onto the boat, he started to swim for the beach. What could I do? It was my father's boat; I may as well drown as go home without it. Pushing for dear life, I inched the boat toward the shore. It seemed to take forever. Eventually, the waves that started crashing around me took the inflatable out of my hands and, like a demented body writhing in agony; it was carried toward the beach. The time had now arrived to save myself. I could see Hawthorn Dene in front of me, and realised my danger. There was a large expanse of rocks to the south of this point and, if the sea pushed me onto them, I would be finished. Fighting for my life against the raging sea, I could not make it to the beach. Every time I came within reach of the shoreline, the undercurrent carried me back out to sea, and south toward the rocks. Taking the only route away from danger, I swam northward and slightly toward the shore. As a wave broke over my head, I would dive to the seabed, then scrabble with hands and feet on the stony bottom, as the outward pull of the water passed back over the top of me. After the undercurrent had abated I would surface, swam a little more to the north and shore, then started the procedure all over again. It was a little ungainly but it worked. Two women, who had already pulled John from the water, helped me onto the beach and up onto my feet. Looking over, I could see John lying spread-eagle on the stony beach, as naked as the day he had been born. Poor Ned was rubbing and patting John's hand; he was more shocked than we were. Running south along the beach, I retrieved the remains of the boat. It had been torn to shreds by the rocks. It is possible that it was my guardian angel who made certain the inflatable was ripped up, the work he had done to get me back to shore must have knackered him. Father had to have known what had happened to the boat, he never enquired where the inflatable was, or ever questioned its disappearance
The Researcher
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:17:22 (PST)
And yet Tom, you were born there by chance.........
Dr Pangloss
- Wednesday, February 12, 2003 at 15:13:36 (PST)
"remember arrogance is the bed rock of facism." An American writes to tell us. How kind, thank you. Thank you very kindly
Billy O'reilly
- Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:22:43 (PST)
Dear Dr Pangloss, I very rarely get drawn into pointless debates but for your further enlightenment I will make this one and only exception. For a start, I have pride in the name that was given to me at birth, and have no need to hide behind a pseudonym. If you peruse volume11 of the Northern Review, you will read of my childhood pride regarding the friends and circumstances, which helped create the foundations of the man I am today. As a teenager I feel pride at the varied circle of friends I encountered, and the fact that my grandfather was so well respected that, his friends ensured I got a job as an apprentice electrician. I feel pride in the fact that the diverse community of Seaham (both good and bad) created in me the ability to face the worries of the world, and still stand tall. I feel pride at the numerous number of men who taught me to use my hands and brain, thus enabling me to feed my family. At the grand old age of 45, industry in the northeast decided ! that I was too old to work, and I was spending more and more time at the job centre. I feel pride in the fact that, every mentor in Seaham that helped mould me, instilled in me the pride of working for my living (only drawing social benefit when no other option was open). I feel pride in the fact that my 6 children have grown up as well adjusted people, and not sad individuals. I feel pride in the fact that one woman gave me 25 years of her life without complaining. I feel pride in the fact that ex-pats from Seaham gave me free lodgings in London, until I was able to find my own accommodation, and move my family down here. I feel pride in the fact that my life in Seaham gave me the strength of character, which has enabled me to blend in with the local community. I feel pride at the number of people in Seaham who (although we had been missing for 7 years) turned up at my late wife’s funeral in St Johns church. I feel pride in the fact that the resilience instilled in me from bi! rth, has enabled me to move on into a new relationship. I feel pride with regard to my local London community but more than anything in the world, I feel proud to have been born and bred in Seaham.
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:21:25 (PST)
Dr Pangloss just who are you trying to impress with your use of a dictionary you really are such a bore.You use big words but really you say so little
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:18:32 (PST)
My Dear Pangloss, whilst I enjoy your excellent contributions to our book, I do hope your "Intellectual Rigour" will allow you to understand that none of us achieves anything alone. At the very least we and all we achieve are products of our education and the support of friends, family, peers, tax-payers etc. Your pride in yourself is mis-placed. Society is a team and we are all players. I am so sorry that you seem not to see this.
Colin Read <colpro@rc.net>
Rome, Italy - Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:17:41 (PST)
Well Wise One you think you have me figured out well you are right about being slightly plump I like to say stacked as for being blonde and fiftyish sorry wrong on both counts the age is out by a decade and the colour is wrong although they say blondes have more fun I have more than enough fun thankyou.You also say I am not unlike Markie well I have never seen her so I can't say
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:14:54 (PST)
Mary you just did the same thing that you accused everyone else of doing.
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:13:41 (PST)
Oh Daniel. I see you've been watching films again. Let me guess - something to do with 'The Lord of the Rings'? It's not true life you know, it's a cinematic fantasy. Like 'Saving Private Ryan' for instance. Perhaps you're a little alarmed at the thought of looking inside yourself........ not sure whether anyone will be at home?
Dr Pangloss
- Tuesday, February 11, 2003 at 15:12:34 (PST)
Dear Tom Moreland. I see by your earnest coments that you are a man of a rather literal bent. When I suggested that your being born in Seaham was a matter of chance I didn't mean to suggest that somehow your conception was unplanned in either the geographical or the, shall we say, connubial, sense. I merely suggested that your being born in Seaham was no achievement of your own. I can understand why you might be tempted to adopt the achievements of others so as to have a sense of personal worth or pride. Are you being honest with yourself? Intellectual rigour wil perhaps help you - be honest with yourself and look for the successes and achievements in your own life. Don't stand on the shoulders of others, stand alone.
Dr Pangloss
- Monday, February 10, 2003 at 15:42:57 (PST)
Hey Dr Pee, I love real debate but you just preach are you aiming to be a priest when you grow up? You ask if national pride might come before a national fall and state the obvious - a consistent element in your contributions to this book. Consider debating reality instead of grammar buddy, a little less arrogance might allow you to understand that some good folks look outside of themselves for things to be proud of. National pride is a reality and in moderation it can be very useful. I love you Hobbit guys but you do have a bad habit of fucussing on your own belly buttons. Get out of the Shire some time and see our world as it really is and remember arrogance is the bed rock of facism.
daniel wuchenich <danwuch@hotmail.com>
buffalo, new york USA - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 15:41:48 (PST)
Very sorry Wise One.My mistake I thought this was a guest book not a chatboard.After reading the posts it appears that there are very few intelligent points of view.Just a couple of foolish people attempting to appear intelligent.Such people using guest books to put forward their opinions lack the ability to debate the subject in the proper forum.Pretty sad .There lesser intelect belongs to the person who is too thick to be British and too stupid to be the American she longs to be.She is in no man's land so she needs support but not in a guest book.Why not ask the webmaster to give you all a chat room and leave the guest book to serve it's correct function.AMHO
mary
canada - Monday, February 10, 2003 at 15:38:45 (PST)
Dr Pangloss, why are you only proud of the things you've done for yourself? are you not proud of your Country? your Heritage? your Family? your family's eachievments? I could name a 1000 other things you could consider being proud of! surely you're not as self-centred as you make out!
Wise One
- Sunday, February 09, 2003 at 07:37:32 (PST)
Dear "Wise One" How do you know I am not a blonde? Do I know you from way back when?........... Anyway, hope y'all are doing well.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, February 09, 2003 at 07:35:52 (PST)
At least I print my name so called 'wise one',I have yet to see any words of wisdom from you on this guest book.It is obvious you have no idea what life is like for us ex.pats in this beautiful sunny country.
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Sunday, February 09, 2003 at 07:33:45 (PST)
Thanks to all who supported the Charity Event on Thursday 6th Feb in aid of NSPCC. A grand sum of 315 was raised. Special thanks to all at Lengs Snooker Club, John McKenzie, Paul Graceland and my counterparts in Happy The Man!
Joanne Curtis <gingejozee@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:16:06 (PST)
Forgive the delay Miss Manners. What am I proud of? The things I've achieved for myself of course. What else can I be proud of? The things that I've got nothing to do with? A little intellectual rigour might not be amiss.....miss
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:15:07 (PST)
Miss Manners - so good she signed herself twice twice
Billy O'Rielly
- Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:14:26 (PST)
Tony! Another two word Man! Why don't these ex-pats get a life instead of all the sniping etc! at least Miss Manners and "others" have summit to say.
Wise One
- Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:13:31 (PST)
daniel wuchenich Your message starts well. Two sentences, one a question, your grammar is reasonable then, just as you show signs of being capable of intelligent debate - you leap head first into insult. Disappointing. As to your question. Here in England we have a saying "Pride comes before a fall." Might not National Pride come before a national fall? As you may have found out last September, mirages will not save you from reality. As a friend of mine once suggested, it's sometimes bestto cultivate one's own garden.
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:12:42 (PST)
Brought back many memories, thankyou.
Robert Emmerson <robert.emmerson@shell.com>
Zwijndrecht, Rotterdam Netherlands - Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:11:27 (PST)
Miss Maners, yes I think I've finally got you "figured" You're 50ish, slightly plumpish, and a Blonde! yes definetly a Blonde. not unlike Jackie Markie.
Wise One
- Friday, February 07, 2003 at 16:09:39 (PST)
Tou'che Stan...
Tony from Spain
Espana - Thursday, February 06, 2003 at 15:53:19 (PST)
Miss Manners, you say "its going to work" When?
Wise One
- Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 15:42:51 (PST)
Wise one I was being facetious not uppity by saying I like the name Jackie .I think somewhere the wires got mixed up I was not sticking up for Mackie I figured if you call her Jackie she would leave and make a lot of people happy.You change your mind about things like you change your underwear .
Miss Maners
- Tuesday, February 04, 2003 at 04:17:03 (PST)
I have supported the Town all of my life, I have just had my 65th birthday and one of my sons has bought me a brick in the Stadium of Light wall as a present. After Saturday's performance I'm off up to get it back and throw it through Murray's window.
SAFC Supporter
Harrogate, - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 14:47:12 (PST)
Miss Manners, You made more sense when you talked about "Primal instincts" You Folk in "the Colonies" are getting a bit uppety lately!
Wise One
- Monday, February 03, 2003 at 14:45:48 (PST)
Stan Lee, You have just used this Forum to do the very thing you say you deplore and accuse others of doing, that is you have just contributedv an item with "nothing of interest or value" come on Stan you can do better!
Wise One
- Monday, February 03, 2003 at 14:45:14 (PST)
Stan Lee, still waiting for you to put something USEFUL in the book!
Wise One
- Monday, February 03, 2003 at 14:44:31 (PST)
Wise One now I know how you got that name you are going to get someone else to be the bad guy .You are going to use me to get Jackie well its going to work I say stick with Jackie I like that
Miss Manners
- Monday, February 03, 2003 at 01:00:18 (PST)
: Hello to wise one who doesnt give his name,i certainly agree with you not to give in to the firefighters,even if my tale seems to say i do agree. Pass on some Pompey memories in the guest book
John Spencer <jaspencer8mvent@aol.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire UK - Monday, February 03, 2003 at 00:59:17 (PST)
I used to visit this guest book and find it very interesting with the people from around the world re-connecting with their home town or making enquiries about people. I'm very sick of Ms Markie and her ill-spelt rantings, others who want to put the world to rights and snide commentators who contribute nothing of interest or value. Why don't you all get a forum where you can use up space to your heart's content and leave this venus for GUESTS who really want to put something in the BOOK
Stan Lee
- Monday, February 03, 2003 at 00:53:30 (PST)
Reference to SAFC ive always followed the lads and the results when they play, and take a bit of stick from the doubters. I say bring back Peter Reid he couldnt have done any worse than the has been Wilkinson. Three own goals says it all. I see that the crowd attendance has dropped that should tell the management something.
John Spencer <jaspencer8mvent@aol.com>
Portsmouth, Hant,s England - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 10:27:07 (PST)
I've been looking at photo's of Seaham on this site and boy! has'nt it changed.Although it looks better,I get to wondering how better. Seaham,in my opinion deserves the best.It's usually regarded as Sunderland's poor relation-atleast it was when I lived at 102 Malvern Cres.in Deneside years ago.That's when the nack was in full swing.Men went down there,dug as much coal as they could then got the hell out as fast as they could.I used to listen to crashing tubs on the gantry day and night and the shunting engines on the line underneath.My birth certificate says Father's occupation coal miner.B.
Bitterne Park U.R. Church <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
Southampton, U.K. - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 05:53:44 (PST)
Howard's Hope, I hope you're right, but I fear you're wrong, what Sunderland fear most is about to happen, its not just their getting beat, its the way their "heads have gone down" they appear to have lost all hope and I don't think that Mr Wilkinson is able to lift and inspire the Lads, what I'd give for a young Bob Stokoe or a rejuvenated Brian Clough! why do other Clubs get all the best Players? I just hope that at the end of April/early May I can come on this Guestbook and say "Sorry Howards Hope, You were right and I was wrong"
Wise One
- Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 03:04:46 (PST)
Well The Lads finally did it. 4 goals scored in one game. AND WE STILL LOST - 3-1 to Charlton. The crowd were brill. Don't worry Howard it will come right in the end.
Howard's Hope
Seaham, - Sunday, February 02, 2003 at 01:57:51 (PST)

MAC Tabash. There was no intention to modify or leave out your contribution. Been on hols and had massive problem with Spam attacks. OK now but yours could have been lost as spam was deleted. Apologies. We'll be back to normal very soon.
Ed

SO the Firefighters have finally confirmed what we all knew and voted for more strike action. They are going to place the lives of millions in the hands of ill-equipped Army firemen until their demands for a 40 per cent pay increase are met. I, and many like me, are thoroughly fed up with hearing about the plight of the poor, hard-up firefighters. Their pay is so low, they moan, that they have to take a second job. They can't afford a holiday. They are living on the breadline. What rot! This is all propaganda spouted by the union leaders and sabre-rattlers down at the station. I am fully aware that countless lives are saved by the brigade, and it can be an unpleasant, traumatic and downright dangerous job. These facts are beyond dispute. My grievance is not with the firefighters themselves. It is with the cynical way their union is trying to manipulate the public into supporting their pay demands. Among my group of friends are several firemen, and they find the whole situation something of an embarrassment. At current pay levels, tThey are the highest paid out of our group, which includes graduates and professionals. They have nice houses and cars, and live a relatively comfortable lifestyle. Those with kids to support always manage at least one holiday a year, and those without are never short of money and can often be found spending considerable amounts of their meagre wages on fancy electrical goods and home improvements. The pay demand of £30,000 a year may not be huge on a national scale, but living in Sunderland it is a fortune. My firemen friends often joke that 999 calls are a nuisance because they have to interrupt their games of snooker, or worse still, get out of bed to attend to them! How many jobs do you know of where you are allowed to sleep through your nightshift? In addition, many firefighters also have second jobs. This is not only to make ends meet, it is because they are bored sitting around the house all day because they have so much time off.
Herman
- Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 06:48:04 (PST)
and finally (for today that is) Jackie my Pet, I will give your request due consideration and let you know, might even ask for a second opinion, like asking Miss Manners what she thinks?
Wise One
- Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 05:38:03 (PST)
Hello John Spencer, very interesting tale you have to tell! I have many many happy memories of Pompey, just like to pick up one of your points however, if we give the Firefighters (the askfor deal of say 40%) everyone else will jump on the Bandwagon, no John Spencer we should never give in to industrial Blackmail. Oh and Oz Brian, you volunteer Firefighters are real hero's. we still have hero's like that here, but unfortunatly, not in the fire service, but plenty in the Services.
Wise One
- Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 05:33:35 (PST)
mary/canada (small m & c) You're the one doing the ranting Pet! Why don't you make some useful contribution to the Guestbook? Serious subjects, like for inst. what do you think about the Iraq situation? and N.Korea? should we address Jacqueline Markie as Jackie? or even Wor Jackie? (with apologies to Mr Milburn) What can we do to get those overpaid Firefighters back to "work" cause their Station beds are getting cold! Where are we going to put all the Refugees? (perhaps the empty Fire Stations? We could also train the Refugeesas Firefighters too? now lets have some serious subjects discussed mary (little m) Oh and most important of all! are Sunderland going to avoid the drop?
Wise One
- Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 05:23:00 (PST)
With reference to the Firefighters strike i was called upon in 1974 to take the place of striking firefighters. I was at that time in the Royal Navy (submarines). As anyone who has served in the RN knows all RN personnel are highly trained in Firefighting,with the exception of some advanced skills attained over years of experience by regulars. In 1974 a lot of service men (no Women) as far as i can remember ,were given the opportunity to take the HGV test. this was to drive the Green Godesses(not what we named them). this was to be an advantage to some sailors who on leaving the Royal Navy had the chance to become HGV drivers. I was at the time serving ashore on a Submarine in refit in Portsmouth Dockyard so this was a chance for us to get out and about from the everyday tasks of the Navy. Most of us im sure enjoyed the situation that we were put into but we dint argue over who was being paid the most. Todays situation is a different kettle of fish ...its political. Having cost the taxpayer some £72 million quid i would have thought it more economical to give the askfor pay deal which would have been cheaper than the price so far. a point to remember when on strike how much ever for you are striking you will never regain what you have lost while on strike I know as this as ive been there in the past(and lost)
John Spencer <jaspencer8mvent@aol.com>
Portsmouth, Hant,s England - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 05:11:09 (PST)
Hi- people , I have noticed the mail regarding your firemen seeking pay rises , Look at our volunteer heroes fighting the worst fires here for about 20 years and risking there lives , your lot should be ashamed , they live in the lap of luxury , firemen hang your heads . Oz- Brian
Oz-Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Saturday, February 01, 2003 at 03:47:10 (PST)
OH NO! I've just stopped going to the Sunderland newsgroup because of a person ranting,on ,and on, and on.Now I find the same here.Stops many of us from enjoying posts. I guess not encouraging them is the answer.
mary <mary@hotmail.com>
canada - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 16:50:40 (PST)
Dear "wise One" Pleae, when I return from my weekend trip, could you remember my name is "Jacqueline" Not "Jackie." I have never, ever referred to myself as "Jackie" and I am not going to start now. My name is "Jac-que-leen." (Jacqueline.) I would much appreciate it...thank you. Anyway, maybe you are right, Parliament and the Palace may not be attacked, but something may...if we go to war. Have a super weekend :)
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 14:16:36 (PST)
+Jackie Markie, There is no chance whatever of Parliament or the Palace being attacked, they are too well protected! it will be the Man/Woman in the street who will bear the burden, for myself, I would say "come back Guy Fawkes, all is forgiven!"
Wise One
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 13:49:51 (PST)
Wise One I think our firemen sound much like yours.My brother-in-law is a fireman he makes an excellent wage .Poor soul works twelve hour shifts oops I mean he is at the station house for twelve hours.He also sleeps when he works nights they all have nice beds they need to rest because they have to clean the big yellow (Canada colours)trucks and practice gourmet cooking.He works two days is off for three then works three and is off foMiss Mannersr two etc he is entitled to umpteen sick days and if he does not use them can take these many days off Don't get me wrong we need firefighters they perform a much needed service its just they can really hold an axe over our heads when they want a pay rise.They belong to the elite class of government employee's who can name there own price or else.
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 06:09:21 (PST)
Yes Miss Manners, they were using Spreader equipment, sorry I don't know the terms or conditions of employment of these hardy Council Workers, but I guess they're getting a lot less than our overpaid, underworked Firefighters, who were probably (The night shift that is) sound asleep in their station beds.
Wise One
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:42:45 (PST)
To "Wise One" I have a feeling you may be right! Hijacked by these extreme fundamentalists who despise us for all we stand for Freedom and Democracy. I am getting on a plane this weekend and next weekend to go to Texas and I can tell you I am not looking forward to it. I will be rather surprised if Texas is not the next state to be attacked given that it is the home of our President and He is rather despised at the moment by the fundamentalists. Also, poor Britian.... I am very surprised that Parliament or the Palace has not been attacked. You are right, something terrible is going to happen I can feel it in my bones.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:42:08 (PST)
SHUT UP JACKIE!
THE JACKIE SHUT UP CLUB
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:38:06 (PST)
Congratulations Sam, You can actually count!
Wise One
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:37:38 (PST)
I think it is almost time for Mr. Ed Mason to be censoring these entries again before they are put on the Guest-Book. They are getting a little stupid again. (I am not referring to "Wise One" or even "Miss Manners") I am referring to some of the messages that appears to be from high school children and making ridiculose comments about finding a man. This guest-book is a not a "dating service" it is meant for people to either: debate, look for friends/ancestory and to make opinions about the town or past experiences etc.... Now please, young people, do not spoil this guest-book, we adults have fun with it, in an adult manner of speaking. We know we are all just "goofing" around.........Anyway, on another note...Oh, my Gosh! I am telling you people, it has just been on the news that now North Korea is buliding enough chemical weapons to be ready by this March! I think we (USA) need to be also giving our concern to North Korea...because they seem determined to want to have a War with USA and I can bet poor Britain will get pulled into it somehow or another... I bet by the end of 2004 or 2005 we will be about ready with a World War 3...then we will be all up the creek! God Help us all!!! ............Oh also, sorry to hear about the snow y'all have back in England and Canada...this is why I choose to live in warm states in America. I cannot deal with all the snow and the cold weather. I like the warm happy sunshine! :) It makes for a Happy, Happy attitude! :)
Jacqueline
USA - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:36:49 (PST)
I got a feeling we're being Hijacked,
Wise one
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:22:47 (PST)
I am looking for a man, a real man. Not some immature boy who has nothing to say. I am willing for a internet relationship or friendship. Lot's Of Love. XxMARTINxX
Martin Kennedy
Seaham, - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:10:36 (PST)
actually jennifer had more than 5 words to say!
Sam
Seaham, - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 05:02:06 (PST)
Jennifer why do you say we are sad .Is it because we put entries on the guest book .Is it because we have more than five words to say .Well at least we got a young girl to practice her reading skills.I say that is a happy thing.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 04:58:41 (PST)
what is the point of other people coming on here this is for people from seaham itself and half of you on here talk total shite!
nee point
seaham, - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 04:57:22 (PST)
>Dear Friends, >This is possibly the funniest story I have heard in a long while. >This is a bricklayer's accident report, which was printed in the newsletter >of the Australian equivalent of the Workers' Compensation board. This is a >true story. Had this guy died, he'd have received a Darwin Award for sure... >--------------------------------------- >"Dear Sir, I am writing in response to your request for additional >information in Block 3 of the accident report form. I put "poor planning" >as the cause of my accident. You asked for a fuller explanation and I trust >the following details will be sufficient. > >I am a bricklayer by trade. On the day of the accident, I was working alone >on the roof of a new six-story building. When I completed my work, I found >that I had some bricks left over which, when weighed later were found to be >slightly in excess of 500lbs. Rather than carry the bricks down by hand, I >decided to lower them in a barrel by using a pulley, which was attached to >the side of the building on the sixth floor. Securing the rope on the >ground I went up to the roof, swung the barrel out and loaded the bricks >into it. Then I went down and untied the rope, holding it tightly to ensure >a slow descent of the bricks. You will note in Block 11 of the accident >report form that I weigh 135lbs. Due to my surprise at being jerked off the >ground so suddenly, I lost my presence of mind and forgot to let go of the >rope. Needless to say, I proceeded at a rapid rate up the side of the >building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel, which was >now proceeding downward at an equally impressive speed. > >This explains the cause of the fractured skull, minor abrasions and the >broken collar bone, as listed in section 3 of the accident report form. > >Slowed only slightly, I continued my rapid ascent, not stopping until the >fingers of my right hand were two knuckles deep into the pulley. >Fortunately by this time I had regained my presence of mind and was able to >hold tightly to the rope, in spite of beginning to experience severe pain. >At approximately the same time, however, the barrel of bricks hit the >ground and the bottom fell out of the barrel. Now devoid of the weight of >the bricks, that barrel weighed approximately 50 lbs. I refer you again to >my weight. As you can imagine, I began a rapid descent, down the side of >the building. In the vicinity of the third floor, I met the barrel coming up. > >This accounts for the two fractured ankles, broken tooth and several >lacerations of my legs and lower body. > >Here my luck began to change slightly. The encounter with the barrel seemed >to slow me enough to lessen my injuries when I fell into the pile of bricks >and fortunately only three vertebrae were cracked. > >I am sorry to report, however, as I lay there on the pile of bricks, in >pain, unable to move, I again lost my composure and presence of mind and >let go of the rope and I lay there watching the empty barrel begin its >journey back down onto me. > >This explains the two broken legs. > >I hope this answers your inquiry. > >Kind regards, > >Mike Pashby
The Jester Minute
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 04:54:28 (PST)
Wise One When you say the lads were out gritting the roads do you mean they were doing it with shovels or did they use a spreader truck.We have terrible winters in Canada but have a lot of snow removel equipment, our lads spray the roads with brine during the night to stop slippery roads.We have many ploughs on the roads during snow storms.Now I should tell you that these lads doing this are employed by private companies that have contracts with our city.They are paid very well and during bad storms can make a lot of money in overtime etc.How about these good ole council lads do they have a good wage and do they get overtime for starting work early do they have decent equipment.The reason I ask this is I know the weather in the world is changing and you in England are getting a lot more snow than you used to years ago are your local councils preparing ahead for this .Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 04:53:22 (PST)
how sad is miss manners and wise one?
jennifer smith
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 04:47:50 (PST)
U KNOW I AM AVALIABLE ANY TIME U WANT JUST CALL
DEAN BUCK
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 03:19:59 (PST)
I am looking for YOUNHG MAN TO SPEND THE LONG WINTER NITES WITH. ANY TAKERS?
keighley campbell
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 03:19:16 (PST)

I really don't understand why Miss Manners and not so Wise One are using this guest book to sound off about the fire fighters. Why do you begrudge them a pay rise? Is it a spite thing, that you don't you like the idea of other people earning more money than yourselves? Do you think their wages will come directly from your pocket? Or do you both have such indispensable jobs that you can accuse a whole profession of laziness? I'm just not sure why you feel the need to go on about their dispute. I was on strike myself last week as we have been offered a 0% pay increase, but I don't begrudge the firefighters any progress they might make in terms of income.
dr vix
Friday, January 31, 2003 at 03:17:16 (PST)
drvmccabe'aol.com

I would like to give a Bouquet to our hard working Council Lads who were out gritting the Roads this morning at a very early hour, They have limited resources, but nevertheless are much appreciated
Wise One
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 02:10:04 (PST)
Miss Manners, A lot of People in this Country are getting sick and tired of the attitudes of the Establishment and the "hanger on Royals" Have a look at this link, if you are a "Royalist" or easily offended, don't look. http://www.throneout.com/
Wise One
- Friday, January 31, 2003 at 01:29:31 (PST)
I'm not coming back to Geography, I'm gonna keep Rachael's book! FOREVER!
Dawn Watt
Seaham, - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 01:17:07 (PST)
i love seaham it is the best town in the country we have such great facilities and i really love the school with great teachers who treat me lovely Imy favourite part of seaham is the people they are all so nice and u neva hear of any fights are arguments. Love k'lee
keighley campbell
seaham, - Friday, January 31, 2003 at 01:12:49 (PST)
Wise One I am afraid that what you say is true of any country right from the local municipality up to the much higher offical's that run our countries.We the regular Joe Blow don't stand a chance of ever getting to know the whole truth on any subject.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 13:08:58 (PST)
Miss Manners, the point I was making was that in this Country there is too much suppression of the Truth and both Royalty and Politicians are guilty of such suppression, they only tell us what they want us to know and all the dirt etc is suppressed behind "d notices" and the like, they hate the free press and whilst I don't give a hoot for how many affairs that Philip or m/s Wallis S had, I would add that if there wasn't any dirt there it couldn't be "dug up"
Wise One
- Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 12:41:35 (PST)
Dear Wise One do you really care how many affairs Wallis had .If you are going to open the vault bring out the secrets being kept on Edward and Adolph ,How about secrets in Phillip's lifetime what about all the monies being paid to other royals maybe its time for them to take a pay decrease and the extra money put back in the local councils to put salt on the roads so people don't get killed on the roads
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 10:05:47 (PST)
Wise One please send Miss Markie to my neck of the woods I would not shut up and she would be eaten alive.Well here in Canada we are really in distress about the reputation our prime minister Chretion is forming for us.We have a leader who can not even speak proper english.He just sits on the fence and waits for his mind to catch up.I like everyone else do not want a war but if we do not unite with Bush to give Saddam a ultimatum Saddam will not take the world seriously and he will continue with his terrorism.We here are lucky to have such a powerful country sitting right next door to us I very much like americans but do not wish to move there Canada is a wonderful country and I have done well by it.We have a lot of problems with our government as well and everyday our newspapers are filled with misdeeds .Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 09:55:50 (PST)
Miss Markie to engage in a conversation with you about current affairs would only encourage you to reply and I believe that you are the reason a lot of people do not post entries on this guestbook.If you were gone we would see a lot of past entrants return to the guestbook.Also without your dribble this would be a lot more interesting page to return to.You do not give up ,you told me you were going to ignore me I even placed a bet that you couldn't and lo and behold I won .Just because I feel lucky I will place another, I bet you can stop coming on the guestbook.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 09:33:08 (PST)
I just want to say that i think this council is disgusting!! I lve in seaham and have just come down a main road Viceroy street where lorrys buses all have to go and it is like a sheet of glass, no grit what so ever!! the cars where sliding all over! are they waiting for an accident to happen before a grit wagon can be sent out!!! Get your fingers out and get some grit down before its to late!!!! I heard there is not enough money? what are you spending the concil tax on then as the centre of Seaham is not getting it!!
ed
seaham, - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 09:27:18 (PST)
What we need in this Country is a "Bill of Rights" similar to the American one. It was our Ancesters who obtained the "Magna Carta" giving certain freedom's to the Peasants. Since then we have fallen behind in the freedom stakes, A small example is the revelation today about Mrs Wallis Simpson having an affair other than with the then King Edward V111, why was this info kept secret for 68 years? It was because the "Establishment" decided to do so, did not want to embarrass the Royals, in partic. the Queen Mother! For goodness sake why? and how many more secrets are being suppressed by the Establishment? I think it may be time for another "Peasants" revolt! What do other Guestbook users think?
Wise One
- Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 06:32:05 (PST)
"Wise One" Well...as you can see by my comments here on the Guest-Book, I think you can figure how things are going in the Colonies. So how aare you today? I hope you are well. Well, I am off now to read the news...be back later. Have a nice day.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 04:10:04 (PST)
thanks i due here guymen
agbga <agboga@mugu.com>
benin, LoGOS nig - Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 03:53:17 (PST)
Miss Manners You seem to have "a thing" about spelling mistakes, you know we all make em, even you!
Wise One
- Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 02:46:46 (PST)
Miss Manners, Right that's it then! I made you an offer I thought you couldn't refuse, so its back to normal service from now on, I think I'll try and "talk" Jackie Markie into migrating to your "part of the Woods" that would shut you up "pretty darn quick" and I think you both deserve each other. Could you or Jackie let me know how things are going in the Colonies? ie Canada and the USA.
Wise One
- Thursday, January 30, 2003 at 02:36:15 (PST)
What a load of old nonsense. Betterment. Prosperity. I left Seaham for a bit of a change, and had the misfortune to fall for a man who hs no connections with the North East and doesn't want to move otherwise I'd be back like a shot. However I am changing careers this year, and one of the reasons I'm doing that is so I can get home more often. One of my friends who moved away from Seaham 15 years ago is in the process of moving back.
Dr Vix, Aberdeen UK.
drvmccabe@aol.com
Thursday, January 30, 2003

"Miss Manners" So you want to debate? Okay,what are your feelings of this possible war with Iraq and what is your opinion of George Bush's State of the Union speech last night? How long do you think it will be before we are at War with Iraq? Oh also, a question...What involvement does Canada have in all of this? What is the Canadian perspective of all of this fiasco? I would be interested to hear. We are going to war...that I know.. But when? And how long this is going to drag is another question in my mind. Also, what other countries are going to be triggered as a result of this? That is also very concerning.
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 29, 2003 at 16:30:29 (PST)
Wise One down boy don't get soft on me now.Lets get back to the bullpen and get some debating going.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, January 29, 2003 at 15:42:54 (PST)
Saw a "Green Goddess" on standbye outside the Royal Hospital at Sunderland today and just had to go over and congratulate our brave Service Personel on doing an excellent job in covering for the striking Firefighters and they're doing it for a fraction of what the Firemen/Women get, shame on the Firefighters for putting lives at risk in pursuit of their exorbitant claims, thoughts of Animals around the Food trough spring to mind
Wise One
- Wednesday, January 29, 2003 at 07:12:19 (PST)
I think the President's State of The Union speech last night put things a bit more into perspective as far as Saddam Hussain goes. If what he accused Saddam Hussain of doing: torturing his own people, controlling how they live their lives and even to controlling the Iraqi scientests when the UN wants to question them, then I think, we cannot allow this dictator to continue. Think back to Adolf Hitler...He was also a serious dictator and controlled his people. Do we allow Saddam Hussain and others like him to continue, or do we put a stop to him now. Though, if we put a stop to Saddam, why not put a stop to every leader who violates Human Rights? Again, we come to an arguementative point of: Is this "only" about Saddam Hussain? Or, is this war also about "oil?" And about the USA wanting to control Iraqs oil? There are so many questions in regards to this war we are about to enter in the next few weeks. How do we know what is the right thing to do and what would be the grave mistake?.....On another note, the North Koreans yesterday had quoted, that they think the South Koreans and the USA are planning an attack on North Korea and they are ready to fight us and declare WAR! (I think, they, the North Koreans, need to get a grip..at the moment.) Though, it was indicated that under President Clinton we were almost at the point of attacking North Korea. So, as we are at the point of going to war with Iraq over Nuclear Weapons, why shouldn't the North Koreans believe that the USA and Great Britain allies, are not going to attack North Korea? Lots of questions and lots to debate...We can debate for hours, but again, who is to know what is the right thing to do or not to do?......Also, lets face it, what Politician tells the truth? And what government does not "hide" certain information? ALL Politicians and ALL Governments have an agender of of their own.
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 29, 2003 at 07:06:57 (PST)
Mis Manners, You and I could possibly get on OK! One thing I admire in Women is a Primal instinct, Wow
Wise One
- Wednesday, January 29, 2003 at 07:05:15 (PST)
Miss Markie please get a dictionary I know you mean well but you lose all credibility with your misspelled words.What is appartied do you mean apartheid.I am afraid that Ernest may have gone to the same school as you he spells africa with two f's Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 18:31:17 (PST)
Welcome back Wise One nice to know you got rid of the wet look.Miss Markie just brings out the gutter in me it's a primal thing .Miss Manners
Mis Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 14:34:31 (PST)
"Earnest Flotsomby" I think that is a terrible racial thing to say on our Guest-Book. Please have respect for the Guest-Book of another country. How is it that you have so much hate in your heart? Not all black people are terrible, there are good and bad in every color, and every religion. I have some wonderful black friends...They are people just like you and I. They are not any different other than they are a few shades darker than myself. What has the color of skin got to do with hating people? Besides, one should try not to hate anyone. I have read the history of Blacks growing up in South Africa and I think it was dispicable how the Blacks were treated from the White Government. South Africa is a black African nation and how dare the white government have treated the black people like they were filth and not worth human dignity or respect. Watch the movie "Sarafina" and maybe you will feel embarrassed at how the white government treated the Blacks. Also read the history of South Africans goverment during the Appartied. Don't you again, write on this Guest-Book racial slurs. You have just breached one of the conditions. Shame on you!
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 10:35:52 (PST)
Miss Manners, Debating and discussions are all excellent means of communication and you seem like an educated Lady! but it is not very Ladylike to use expressions like Fowl and oral diarrhea, So come on get back to basics and use your brains to be insulting(if you wish) without being so offensive, and I used to use Gel. on my hair, but not any more. I was not sticking up for anyone, just giving credit where it was due and comdemning rudeness. Jackie Markie is entitled to her threehalfeth even though she's wrong 90% of the time
Wise One
- Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 10:30:26 (PST)
Critics Choice. That sounds like a lot of fun won't you join us.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 09:48:56 (PST)
Manners,Wise one,Jacqueline,Pangloss.What a motley crew! How would you all do on channel 4 in the Big-Brother house?
Critics Choice
- Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 09:28:31 (PST)
Miss Markie I must remind you yet again to peruse your entries.In your last one you tell me I am not worth pursing just what does that mean is it a new American word or did you just make it up I hope it is not a violent act.Do you mean to beat me with your handbag.Miss Markie you do not tell it like it is you tell it how you think it is.I really dont't have a problem with that but if you tell it you also have to take it when someone tells you what they think of it. Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 09:08:47 (PST)
Great site keep it up
Bill Clinton
New York, New York New York USA - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 08:00:22 (PST)
Dear Wise One perhaps you did not see my entry on Jan-24-03 I was being very nice.I was debating with Dr Pangloss and of course Miss Markie was feeling left out so as usual she jumped in with size nines.I am sorry if I offended you with my words but to quote the big mouth Markie I also tell it like it is .You are going soft Wise One she pays you a compliment and you turn to gel get back to your usual self.Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 07:12:11 (PST)
Miss Markie I bet you can't ignore me that is. You rise to everyone's bait because you can't help yourself dear.
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 07:03:17 (PST)
Miss Manners, its seems your vitriol knows no bounds, do you ever have anything good to say about anyone? I would respectfully suggest that you calm down and not be so abusive, after all you can, I hope, put over your views and arguments, without adopting such a hostile demeaner! In other words please put your brain in gear before engaging keyboard
Wise One
- Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 06:44:30 (PST)
There is a simple reason, which is so obvious, as to why anyone leaves Seaham, its called "betterment" and is something that we all strive for! There is also a very good reason for them to return to Seaham and its called "nostalgia" for whilst we should always seek betterment, we should not forget our "roots" which is the Town/Village/City wher we were born and nurtured.
Wise One
- Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 06:36:16 (PST)
Miss Manners!" January 24th are MY OWN THOUGHTS AND WORDS. You are not even worth pursing...Miss Manners. From now on I shall choose to ignore you. Tell me where on earth would you find in any article what I wrote on January 24th. What a peice of work you are. You must be so annoyed that I do have brains in my head. My own thoughts and opinions and I am not afraid to speak out on what I believe in. Miss Manners, do yourself a favor and stop making yourself look like a high school child who is a sore loser! You were the one who started being critical of me. All I did was bascially ingore you as what I am going to continue to do. Goodbye Miss Manners, and enjoy your day.
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 06:18:18 (PST)
Miss Markie you never fail to amuse me.Just when I think there might be a brain in your head,I am refering to your Jan- 24- 03 entry I find out you copied it from a media article tsk tsk.Then you show your immaturity and write a piece of drivel on Jan-27-03. What century are you in ,the suffragette's will all be rolling in their graves.No man, women or fowl like you will ever put me in my place my dear.To cheer on a man to put a woman in her place is really showing your immaturity.next time you have a bad case of oral diarrhea use the W.C.not the guestbook.Miss Markie do ever peruse your entries you should I think in your last entry you just insulted every person who lives in Seaham, Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Tuesday, January 28, 2003 at 05:56:22 (PST)
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mugu <mugu@mu.com>
lome, togo usa - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 18:43:13 (PST)
Thanks Jackie I'll take that as a compliment must admit your letter of Friday, January 24, 2003 at 20:28:12 (PST) "hit the nail on the head" I'll give credit where its due!
Wise One
- Monday, January 27, 2003 at 14:11:20 (PST)
"Wise One" ......You are just too funny! :) You've a great sense of humor! It is also a good thing that I have a good sense of humor too...:) :) :)
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 12:16:11 (PST)
Thank you Mr Editor for giving us instant access to the Guestbook, hope this privilege is not abused
Wise One
- Monday, January 27, 2003 at 11:23:04 (PST)
I think its time I reminded Guestbook users of the massive debt we owe to the American Nation! They actually took M/S Markie off our shores, God Bless America!
Wise One
- Monday, January 27, 2003 at 11:19:13 (PST)
Jaqueline pet.....please let me know when you intend to visit the uk again because there's a nice little guest house just down the road from me. Its called Rampton!
sherwood forester
newark, Notts - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 11:05:52 (PST)
"Dr. Pangloss" Good job for putting "Miss Manners" in her place. She had plenty to say about me living across to ocean in USA...If she was sho "Proud" of saying she is origianlly from "Seaham" Then why on earth did she leave Seaham?! All my family and friends who are still in Seaham are there, because they like Seaham and are proud to be part of Seaham. Those of us who have left Seaham, for whatever the reasons maybe...We have ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM TO TALK! If we, those of us who moved away from Seaham, were so proud of Seaham we would never have moved away in the first place. Let us all be honest, (those of us who live either in USA, Canada, London or else where away from Seaham.) We moved away from Seaham because of: A. The employment, B. We needed to grow, mature and to explore the world and find our own identity and to know there are other places in the world, other than Seaham. (That is not to say Seaham is the worst place to live.) C. People moved away due to spouses. D. People moved away for no other reason than "just because!" However, no matter how you look at it, those of us who moved away from Seaham, if we thought Seaham could "prosper" us, wouldn't we all be back in a flash? Of course we would...so then why aren't we then? The answer is,....because we all know that no matter what we are doing with our lives living elsewhere away from Seaham, that we are doing far better than we would have prospered living the rest of our lives in Seaham doing them same old, same old stuff as we did when we were kids, teenagers and doing the same old, same old stuff our friends are doing when they were growing up. Those of us who have moved away from Seaham live a very different life now, and we ought to be proud of the lives we have accomplished for ourselves......................SO..MISS MANNERS....QUIT YOUR PATHETIC OPINIONS OF HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF SEAHAM...THE TRUTH IS...YOU ARE NOT PROUD...OTHERWISE, YOU WOULD BE BACK LIVING IN SEAHAM AND CONTRIBUTING TO SEAHAM; BUT YOU DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO SEAHAM..YOU CONTRIBUTE TO CANADA. ALSO, THE TRUTH IS, YOU JUST WANTED TO TRY TO ARGUE WITH ME AND TO TRY TO MAKE ME FEEL BAD...WHEN IN ACTUAL FACT, YOU MADE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE AN UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT FOOL. BE AN ADULT, BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF AND HONEST WITH OTHERS ON THIS GUEST-BOOK. ..............People on this guest-book may not always like what I have to say, or agree with my opinions, but at least they all know with me, I am honest about "who I am" and my opinions.
Jacqueline <MaryMarkie@aol.com>
USA - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 09:34:04 (PST)
Dr. Pangloss, I refer you to my original communication. If your understanding of the written word, is equal to your comprehension of common values, then I can understand your difficulties. Take heart, these problems are usual solved with maturity. Best wishes TOM
Tom Moreland <Dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 08:39:23 (PST)
Does anyone know anything about the "history" of the company Thompson's Red Stamp Stores? They had shops all over the North East from World War 1 until the 1950s. I will be grateful for "any info" that anyone can supply. Thanks in advance,Harry Watson.
H.R.Watson.Mr. <hairoil@ntlworld>
Durham. UK. - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 06:31:51 (PST)
Dr Pangloss You really sound a very bitter person. Do I detect a dark bitter resentment that you still live in Seaham. If you feel so much disdain about Seaham then what the heck are you doing still there.You come across as a person who doesn't have any pride in anything .and what makes you think I didn't marry a hard working and hard drinking Seaham lad and he brought me to Canada.You bash Tom and London for what?I challenge you again to tell me what gives you pride.
Miss Manners
Canada - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 06:27:28 (PST)
Miss Manners, I'm glad that you feel satisfaction with regards to the place of your birth. Are you sure that these feelings are real and not the rose-tinted views of an ex-pat? If so, why did you chose to live your adult life several thousand miles away in Canada? ..you could have married a local 'hard working and drinking man' and swung on Seaham's ropes to your hearts content. As for Tom Moreland - and let me say this in as mocking a tone of voice as I can muster - WHY DO YOU LIVE IN LONDON?
Dr Pangloss
- Monday, January 27, 2003 at 04:31:07 (PST)
Lets face it.. this war when it happens is not about Saddam its about OIL and George Bush’s determination to get his hands the oil fields of Iraq so fat Americans can drive enormous cars for another fifty or so more years. If any one is a tyrant it is Bush! He could not care less how many innocent women and children get blown to smithereens as long as he gets the OIL. BURN IN HELL BUSH.
NO MORE WAR <NO MORE WAR>
NO MORE WAR, - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 01:49:53 (PST)
Well said Wise One! When I got my Job I knew how much I was getting paid and the terms and conditions of my employment and if I dont like it I know I can leave. My I suggest to the fire men if they do not like how much they are getting paid why dont they hang up their wellies and hats and become a milk man or somthing instead of holding the country to ransom. I have no sympathy what so ever for them.
Fire man Sam
Dawdon, - Monday, January 27, 2003 at 01:37:19 (PST)
Can anyone explain why the Firefighters are so hell-bent on striking and putting the lives of the Public at risk? ie The Women, Children and Elderly and of course their own Families. Could I suggest that any Firefighter who puts lives at risk by going on strike is in the wrong job as Firefighting is a vocation. Also why should these Strikers be allowed to wear Brigade uniforms and "plaster" the fire stations with propaganda? Should they also be allowed to go around with their "begging bowls" The Servicemen/Women are doing the best they can in the circumstances and should be applauded. Thank God for the Servicemen/Women
Wise One
- Sunday, January 26, 2003 at 03:38:44 (PST)
The United States Of America has bombed 19 countries since 1945 that I know about. At least 20,000 youg Americans were brought home in body-bags from Vietnam during that usless war.Other American war scermishes have given them a bloody nose which they have played down.George Bush(President by default) Please send enough body-bags for your Troops in Iraque. B.
Biterne Park U.R. Church <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
Southampton, USA - Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 00:04:06 (PST)
"JB" Well said! There are pros and cons on both sides..."Which is the lesser of the two evils?" so to speak. Our hands are tied on this Iraq issue. If we go to war lives are going to be lost. If we do not go to war, lives are still going to be lost with the threat and acts of terrorism. These acts of terrorism are becoming more wide spread and vicious. It shows us that these people will go to any lengths - now it is them trying to conceal "rican" in the British troops food - what next?! The police may be catching them, but it is not at all a deterance to these extreme fundamentalists - who hate all westerners, not just Americans. So if we do not go to war..how can we be sure that Saddam Hussain will not in the near future use his chemical and biological warfare weapons of mass destruction? If we go to war, we all know the consequences...Even if we do go to war, the terrorism is not going to stop if and when Saddam Hussain get ousted out of power. I think we all need to face reality and realize we are in a very big and frightening mess and it is not going to be resolved that easy or with peace. I do not want war..I am afraid and afraid for all of our soldiers having to face the possibility of being killed. However, what will happen if we just leave Saddam Hussain to continue to lie and to do his own thing....and that is to continue to build weapons of mass destructions. What if we all ignored Adolf Hitler and refused to fight back? What do you think may have happened to our country and to Europe? We are in a "catch 22" people...and we can argue and debate all day long which politicians are right and which are wrong...but the fact is, we are faced with a different kind of war...and this war is far more serious than the others. I think what we ought to do, is support our soldiers and just give this up to God and pray that he will show us all is mercy and his grace. We also need to pray for our leaders; and hope for the best. We need to give them support and try to have faith in what they are doing. Lets face it, being President or Prime Minister is indeed one of the toughest jobs...because one person cannot please a whole country. Also,who is to say, if Al Gore was President of America that he would not be doing things any different to President George w. Bush? Who is to say if Tony Blair was not Prime Minister that another Prime Minister would not be agreeing with America to go to war with Iraq? We just do not know these things....so the best thing to do right now is to give our President and Prime Minister the support they deserve while they are in the midst of trying to make the best possible decisions they can make that will benefit our safty and lives; and our countries. We ought not be so aragont to think that we know best... none of us really know the right answer to all of this fiasco. It will just continue until we are in a full scale war at some point and I think it is time we all came to that realism. Take care and God Bless... Let us all just pray for our leader this coming week.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 20:28:12 (PST)
To all, I can understand your feelings acainst the war on Iraq and the other terrorist faction nations, but although I live in thew smoke I am not blinded by it. We here are at constant threat from all anti western, ati british, anti capatalist and anti christian terror groups. as I lived in seaham from birth unitl I was 27 I know every one was blinded by the lack of living amongst a multi racial comunity. I myself was totaly anti racist. BUT you should try living in a area with a huge Mosque around the corner, the nations of islam selling anti west/white {sorry to mention a race issue} pro Al quida news paper's and the constant threat of an attack. If we here are threatned with an attack don't you think with the security here they may chose a softer target e.g. SEAHAM???????????? Just think about it wen your sober! John.
JB
London, - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 15:27:51 (PST)
Dr Pangloss I am still waiting to here what you are proud of.Also thanks to Tom Morland for answering my call of Seahamites telling what they are proud of Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 11:26:07 (PST)
Greetings Seaham Harbour from this part of the English coastline. The new 150 thousand ton Queen Mary sails up Southampton water in December 2003. Why don,t you coach down here to see Her arrive. It,ll be a sight alright. B.
Biterne Park U. R. Church <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
Southampton - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:26:00 (PST)
met friend from seaham, love book, plenty fun her. in turkey we like englad, brave land nice blond lady. every day i think it be good to visit. maye stay. you help us iraq very near dont lik ud. you proud good freind
haakan dermitas <haaktas@yahoo.com>
izmir, Turkey - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:24:35 (PST)
: When is our Prime Minister going stand up and be a man? I am sick of him kissing Geordie Bushes backside. If the French can tell him to get stuffed anyone one can! Come on Tony get off your knees.
Winston
England - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:21:37 (PST)
Lisa from Huston, I won't be "clicking" into your free essays site, once picked up a virus doing daft things like that, not saying anythings wrong with your "free essay" site, but only a fool would risk it Pet!
Wise One
- Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:20:41 (PST)
Dr Pangloss I feel so sorry for you, and for your insulting comments regarding all people from Seaham. Like my own conception, I feel sure that Miss Manners birth was no mistake, but a loving and planned action by her parents. It was no accident that we were born in Seaham, our parents lived there! When anyone asks where I was born and bred I reply in as proud a tone of voice as I can muster, SEAHAM, IN THE COUNTY OF DURHAM (often adding LAND OF THE BISHOP PRINCE'S). To have no pride in ones' birthright is one of the saddest things I have ever heard. Like most expatriates, I moved locations due to the lack of employment in the North East; this does not detract from my love of Seaham, or the pride I have for my heritage.
Tom Morland
London, - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:18:14 (PST)
Hello no name. Yes, I did used to live next to the Castlereagh. Do you know our Mick? Oh woah! I've written more than two sentences now and I'm starting to feel dizzy. Sorry I can't ramble on for longer.
Dr. Vix <drvmccabe@aol.com>
Aberdeen, Scotland - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:16:22 (PST)
Mr Panglos, I usually enjoy your wise words buddy but have you never heard of a people doing good out of national pride? You Brits standing against the Nazi's in 39 for instance. Your comment betrays a wacky dislocation from reality, are you a Hobbit?
daniel wuchenich <danwuch@hotmail.com>
buffalo, New York - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:15:01 (PST)
Dr Pangloss. We can not choose how or where we are born,but that does not make us accidents.Pride is a feeling of pleasure or satisfaction.I do get lots of pleasure when I remember growing up in Seaham.I remember playing in Parkside woods,playing by the beck, the rope swing ,playing snowballs with the neighborhood kids.All the great games we would play outside till the street lights came on and we would have to go in.I am proud of my dad who worked down Dawdon pits from the age of fourteen and who didn't live two years past retirement.He was a hard working and drinking man who was also born in Seaham.I still have family in Seaham and I am proud of them.Most things in life are an accident, but that does not mean we should not take pride in where we came.I am proud of my children,rinking man who was also born in Seaham.I still have family in Seaham and I am proud of them.Most things in life are an accident, but that does not mean we should not take pride in where we came.I am proud of my children, my husband,and my home .Maybe you would like to take a minute and tell the readers of the guest book what you are proud of in fact instead of bashing each other why doesn't everyone write in! and say what they are proud of. Miss Manners.
Miss Manners
Canada - Friday, January 24, 2003 at 10:13:36 (PST)
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- Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 16:13:18 (PST)
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- Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 10:55:38 (PST)
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- Tuesday, January 21, 2003 at 00:43:45 (PST)
Now living and working near Cambridge. I am the proud son of the Seaham Chelsea Pensioner, Ralph Dickinson
Vaughan Dickinson <vaughantd@barhill1000.fsnet.co.uk>
Bar Hill, Cambridgeshire UK - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 11:02:37 (PST)
"Bunyards Exhibit.." At least when I am writing on this Guest-Book" I do not name call individuals who use this Guest-Book. I think you have breached one of the conditions. Notice I am not lashing back with insults? I am just letting others see what a very rude person you are. Have a nice day!
Jacqueline
USA - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 11:01:02 (PST)
victori macabe did you live bside the castleragh pub do you have a brother
noname
USA - Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:59:09 (PST)
Dr Vix, You seem to be a Person of limited Vocabulary! Do you get confused if you have to write more than one sentence?
Wise One
- Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:58:15 (PST)
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to cry racist or worse at Yankie Doodles guestbook entry. It may well be of American origin and a little OTT but the general theme of the message will not be lost on most people in the UK. Perhaps Vix was correct in suggesting this guestbook is not the place for this discussion but one thing is for sure, there is a huge swell of whispering concern over immigration and related issues in this country. I hear it every day. It is a festering political boil, which needs urgent treatment.
Isaac
- Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:57:13 (PST)
Miss Manners. You talk about your pride at being from Seaham. How can you be proud of something that happened to you by accident? I can understand pride at those things that you've achieved yourself but to be proud of something that was no doing of yours..? National pride seems to me to be entirely pointless and without worth. Perhaps you can convince me otherwise........
Dr Pangloss
- Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:54:41 (PST)
Dear 'No Name' - Don't bother coming back pet!
Margrossi
- Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:53:54 (PST)
Well said Miss Manners. Jacqueline does come across as a bigot. In answer to your question about her accent, she already informed us on the guestbook, with some kind of mis guided pride that she had lost her North East accent and now spoke with an Oxford Accent. All the self loathing of a wolf in sheeps' clothing.
Bunyard's Exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Sunday, January 19, 2003 at 11:06:11 (PST)
hi i am mansoor eight years age i left my house to find the truth of God and find it i have meet more spiritual personalties dream interpreter bible teachers muslims hindus but i only now know that God is here but only one way to comunicate him in devine dream and other voices or own thinks reply in dip its not voice of God why god not comunicate us because he have not only one earth he make us as a friequentily growing and making thinking automatically we have mantally more things but are not thinking for it God send us for a porticular porpose first we find it and then perform it I felt the waves of devine they always andicate us for nearest futural events and in perfection there is only one system for right living life thats natural realism human have only thoughts but don't share the natural thoughts with social thought the natural thought is only perfect thing any question for this topic please email me at mansoor71000@hotmail.com thanks mansoor.i am mythologica! l pysychic stroy writer and dialogs etc.
mansoorq <mansoor71000@hotmail.com>
hyderabad, sindh pakistan - Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:59:43 (PST)
Yankee Doodle Noodle. Why are you using this guestbook to vent xenophobic nonsense? Can't you get anyone to listen to you in person?
Dr Vix <drvmccabe@aol.com>
Abewrdeen, Scotland - Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:21:27 (PST)
Miss Markie in your last entry you state in America we speak English . My dear why did you go to America I am sure you went with the belief that you would better yourself.Now the North American Indian was the first race in America and as you are such an upstanding person that when you went to America you spoke the First Nation dialect and you moved onto a reserve to live right .America is about freedom of speech it's a new land it does not belong to the English.If you want English then stay in england .Lady you are one heck of a bigot you spew out so much bile and then you have the nerve to brag about your charity work with the under priveleged,I bet you never let them forget how much they owe you.Ilived in seaham and came to Canada to try for a better life I found one but I never forget where I came from and often feel sad that Ihad to leave Seaham to find one .Seaham will always be home and I never will forget that. As I am sure all other nations who leave home fee! l the same way so why shouldn't they speak Spanish or French or whatever.Don't you still have a little bit of accent left and aren't you proud to say you are from England when people comment on it.Sorry but I read so much B#!*s#!belonging to you on this guest book just once I had to let steam ohh Iam sorry to the rest of readers about the length of this entry , Miss Manners
Miss Manners
Canada - Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:20:08 (PST)
"Margrossi" I am not answering that stupid question. Have a nice day in the cold weather of Seaham..talk to you later when you have something kind to say.
No Name
- Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:17:52 (PST)
Bill J, it were better if you "engaged your Brain" before you speak Man.
Observer
- Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:17:13 (PST)
A kid was sitting on his lawn with a box of puppies one morning. George Bush was on his morning run, accompanied by some Secret Service workers. Dubya asked the boy what kind of puppies were in the box. The little boy said, "Republicans." The President beamed, patted the boy on the head, and said, "That's ma boy!" A few weeks later Bush was jogging again, this time with Dick Cheney in tow. Bush stopped at the boy's house, winked at Dick and said, "Hey kid, what kind of pupies are in the box?" The boy said, "Democracts" Bush was ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED, saying, "What happened? A few weeks ago they were Republicans!" The boy said, "Well, the puppies opened their eyes."
Joker
- Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:16:36 (PST)
I do not think that you are the real Dr Pangloss. You have spelt your name in a different way. For your information I was not hand-reared by anyone.
Candite
Paris, France - Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 15:15:23 (PST)
JAVKIE - STILL WAITING FOR YOUR COMMENTS PET! - You wrote, "I am aware wars have been going on since the world began, but it appears in my life time, it has got worse..." So, you freely admit it's all your fault then pet!
Margrossi
- Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 00:59:03 (PST)
Candite - I hand-reared you when you were a mere pup.
Dr Panglos
- Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 00:58:09 (PST)
Yankee Doodle, are you a native American, or is your heritage from another country? What language do you speak? I thought it was English. I hope that the others that read this site don't think all Americans are right wingers with no concept of how America was formed over the centuries. Just like I hold no grudge against Seaham because of the rantings of Mary Markie.
Bill J
Vancouver, Washington USA - Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 00:57:34 (PST)
Dear mistress Markie - or should I say Miss. I wonder if I might encourage you to wear a light kerchief about your mouth when composing your thoughts in the guestbook. It seems that when your mouth begins to foam excessively the resultant froth causes your keyboard to misbehave. Your misspellings are as a bee sting to a boil.
Dr Pangloss
- Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:26:53 (PST)
This says it all! Florida changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license with her face covered this is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please! IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language! "In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture. If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every! citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
Yankee Doodle Dandy
Anytown, USA - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:25:20 (PST)
Hello Seaham I am researching my family history and am hoping to contact or find information on descendants of my great great uncle Frederick STOKOE. Frederick married someone called Agnes and they had the following children all baptised at Christ Church, New Seaham: John Thomas b.1876, William Henry b.1878, Alfred b.1881, Charles b.1883, Frederick b.1885, Agnes Frances b.1887, Lambton b. 1889, Alice b.1891 and Mary b.1897. I would love to contact any STOKOE who is related to this family. Is there anyone in Seaham who has information on the family?
Pam Bennett <solvic@bigfoot.com>
Newark, Nottinghamshire England - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:22:01 (PST)
Forthcoming event........Lengs Snooker Club proudly present a grand charity night on Thursday 6th February in aid of the NSPCC. The entertainment will be provided by John McKenzie, our very own Elvis:- Mr Paul Graceland, and top turn Happy the Man. Come along and join in the fun whilst raising money for a very worthwhile cause.
Joanne Curtis <gingejozee@hotmail.com>
Seaham, - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:20:18 (PST)
Jacqueline , Re- The Gospel according toJacqueline ,really, all the world has a comprehesive coverage of world news , except America unless you know where to look , so your volumes are not required . Might I suggest that you look through your previous contributions to this site , and for every time you have repeated yourself you say 10 Hail Marys, then try to have an original thought and let us have that, O.K.Pet
fred <fred@ home >
ya ya land, the universe - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:18:51 (PST)
I would love to hear from anyone knowing some of the family history of the Davisons. My Granda was Benjamin and he lived in Seaham till he died, Ta
Janet <janetsmith10@bigpond.com>
Warnbro, WA Australia - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:17:35 (PST)
Who is this war mongering preaching pessimist who apparently has exclusive access to headline news and even more disturbing claims to have past links to Seaham.
New guest book contributor
Australia - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:16:21 (PST)
"Bunyards Exhibits" I wrote my "protestant" friend, because here in America it is a standing joke that Protestants know their Bible more than the Catholics do. You all know I am Catholic, and I regret to say, that I do not know my whole Bible inside and out like my American Protestant friends.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, January 12, 2003 at 14:15:22 (PST)
Hey! What did I tell you - people? Didn't I say the other day that this Korea issue would lead to WW3 - Well, lo and behold, Today the headlines read, if US attacks Korea, it will lead to WW3. Oh, people! I We had all better get ourselves right with God and with whomever - because 2003 is only the beginning of major catastrophes in our world. Hopefully, the diplomats will be able to come to a peaceful solution to this, but we had all better be on guard. I would like to know, however, why is it that we are ready to throw Saddam Hussain from his regime, Yet, we are allowing the North Korean "kim" whatever, to continue with his communist regime hreatning with Nuclear weapons? Who is more dangerous...Iraq or North Korea or both?!
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:59:34 (PST)
moved from seaham in 1985, moved back but this time to peterlee hoped to return to fishing off seaham piers but seaham dock co had closed them , i had to travel to roker as i am not a beach fisherman...gutted!
derek marchant <derek@marchantd35.freeserve.co.uk>
peterlee, durham uk - Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:57:35 (PST)
Yahoo - Big Print! That's much better - thanks.
Not Thomas Johnson
- Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:56:18 (PST)
FOR JACKIE - You wrote, "I am aware wars have been going on since the world began, but it appears in my life time, it has got worse..." So, you freely admit it's all your fault then pet!
Margrossi
- Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:55:21 (PST)
FOR JACKIE - You wrote "It concerned me very much when I heard about the planned terrorist attack in London yesterday - I knew it!" - So you freely admit to knowing about it, as you used the word 'KNEW' which signifies 'past tense', I'm sure MI5 and MI6 would be interested in learning more about your sources. To save both you and the security service any trouble would you like me to pass your email address on to them?
Margrossi
- Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:54:24 (PST)
Dear Jacqueline. You'd do well to heed the comments of Signor Margrossi. We tired of your preaching. We have excellent access to world events and are able to make our own minds up. I recently read Stupid White Men by Michael Moore. I'd recommend it to you. You seem intent on pigeon holing people. You write of Christians, Muslims etc. as if you can catagorise whole groups. Why did you write 'my protestant friend'. Why not just my friend? Why?
Bunyard's Exhibition
- Friday, January 10, 2003 at 14:53:20 (PST)
So people of Seaham, the best thing we can do from now on, is begin to pray and really try our hardest to get right with God and go back to living the way it was intended from the very beginning - that also means trying our hardest to be at peace with one another. It appears the world is getting worse by the year - absolutely no value, respect for life, human dignity. I am aware wars have been going on since the world began, but it appears in my life time, it has got worse...This war with Iraq, appears to be triggering other countries to be at war. Now India has warned Pakistan to be quiet, or India will wipe out Pakistan..more nuclear threats. My dear Protestant friend, who really knows his Bible told me that it actually says in the Bible that "Nations will be niolated." We are sending 100,000 USA troops to Iraq, not including the thousands of troops from UK - we are going to topple Iraq! (Now the French are preparing their military for deployment...this is going to! either be an quick in and out like the Gulf war in 1991, or it is going to escelate!)It concerned me very much when I heard about the planned terrorist attack in London yesterday - I knew it! I knew that because UK are the strongest allies to the USA that UK would see some serious terrorist plans/attacks. We really are in a big mess! How can people just go on living their lives like nothing is happening? This North Korea issue is going to trigger a WW3 if Politicians are not careful - mark my words! Anyway, admist all the chaos of leading up to War, I hope everyone is well. Take care and God Bless..
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA, - Wednesday, January 08, 2003 at 14:50:09 (PST)
FOR JACKIE: You wrote: "extreme Muslims in Parkistan are having protest today" Is Parki-stan anywhere near Parki-side in Seaham? Get your spelling right pet! And another thing - the news in the UK is 10 times more informative that the sensored crap they dish out over there. I know, I was in the States recently and struggled to get any news on world events (with the exception of the "World Series" where only US teams take part) what a load of TOSH! Markie, you ain't a chuffin' Yank so stop pretending Hinny! Stop preaching about owt yer kna nowt about!! I, we, us lot are fed up with yer slavver, get yer bib on and find yersell a man, that's what you need a man. There's a young batchelor named Peter Rogers available, gerrim married and get yer name changed! Jackie Rogers. Sounds good to me - but does she? (A bit deep for some folks that last bit) In the words of Mr. Allan - may your God go with you.
Signor Margrossi
Peterlee, - Wednesday, January 08, 2003 at 14:46:51 (PST)
My letter to Santa and my Christmas wish list seem to have had mixed results. Tommy MacJohnson may have got his Fiver but I never got the beer. Jacqueline Mary Markie wants a new President and a new Man and we seem to be her new Target. The Tardis seems to have got Kinky John home but his mate Pangloss is stuck out in heavens high with only Major Tong for company. And what about the cricket? Who needed 11 Ian Botham's? We stuffed them Aussies with the help of just one bent umpire. We now lead the 2003 test series 1-0. Ouzat! The AGB is still silent and Tonys boat has been spotted off the French Coast heading for the English Channel. We shouldnt hold our breath though. If he manages to avoid the oil slick he will have to bypass all those free luxury motorcars bobbing around in the Channel. Happy New Year to you all.
Mac Tabash
- Wednesday, January 08, 2003 at 14:44:34 (PST)
Dr Pangloss. Hope you realize I was being formal there. I am not on first name terms with the good Major.
Mac Tabash
- Wednesday, January 08, 2003 at 14:42:51 (PST)
What fun, reading all the comments in Seaham G.B. Seaham is past for most of us.The past is our lover and tempting.I can resist anything exept temptation.
Crictics Choice
- Wednesday, January 08, 2003 at 14:41:34 (PST)
Jacqueline, you were singing Bush's praises not so long ago, yet now you seem to think we'll be interested in your biased running commentry on world politics. We all have access to the internet and the news and do not need you to keep us informed.
Bunyards exhibition <Bexhibition@aol.com>
- Monday, January 06, 2003 at 15:26:42 (PST)
My dear Pangloss, did you not know I refined not just myself since I last met you, but also my name. Maybe you should do likewise and refine your language.
Candite
Paris, France - Monday, January 06, 2003 at 15:25:23 (PST)
I was born and brought up in Seaham daughter of a miner and will always feel my home is in Seaham.
Ann Green <anngreenag@lineone.net>
Dundee, Scotland - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:40:19 (PST)
To Angry (no name) and Janet Smith,I appreciate how you feel, but disagree with you on two important points! first of all I understood the Seaham G/book was for discussion of everyday topics and subject only to the laws of decency. So whilst We may not agree with what M/s Jackie has to say (or anyone else has to say for that matter) They have the right to express their feelings and views regardless! and as for our brave Servicemen being sent to fight in Iraq or anywhere else for that matter, for crying out loud, they are our fighting Men and Women and they all knew the conditions of service before volunteering didn't they? and you don't hear any complaints from them do you? Of course any loss of life is sad for all concerned ande I speak as one who has "lost" both friends and Relations in conflicts. My Father has told me often enough of where appeasment and "turning the other cheek" gets you, my fear is that President Bush and Premier Blair may be right and inaction now could result in some British City paying the price in a few years time when Saddam developes his missile delivery system.
Wise One
- Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:39:00 (PST)
Oki-doki people, I get the message.. We really are in a very sad situation with Iraq and North Korea...Yes, we do hear of it every day and yes, we are all scared and tired of it and we all hope it goes away..but it id not going to go away...it is very concerning. Anyway, hope all is well.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:37:03 (PST)
Hi Ed and Sadie, here's wishing you, and all your readers, a happy and prosperous New Year. 130 people attended our family and friends reunion in Morecambe this year. It was one good party, and just gets better.
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:35:51 (PST)
Well..at least I keep you people up-dated from what is going on from the American side of things. So quit your complaining about my contributions on this Guest-Book. So the latest is: Though President Bush continues to deny he is going to declare war on Iraq, at the same time he was out in Fort Hood, Texas, one of the largest military basis, rallying up the soldiers for the "possible" attack on Iraq. Meanwhile, extreme Muslims in Parkistan are having protest today against Americans attacking Iraq and say an attack on Iraq would be an attack on Parkistan and the whole Muslim community; and that they would "fight" the Americans. Elsewhere... North Korea..has rejected American negotiations and they insist on rebuliding their weapons of Nuclear Mass destruction. So that is the news today folks! Anyway, hope all is well in Merry old England...have a super day! and find something to smile :) about.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:34:49 (PST)
Does anyone know when the Deneside Infants/Juniors school was built? Would greatly appreciate the information if anyone knows.
bj <bjo4784582@aol.com>
Vancover, Washington USA - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:33:17 (PST)
Hi I'm Denny use to live on Ryton Cres in Seaham, emigrated to Australia in 1966, use to frequent the Nack Club, York House and Deneside Pub, looking to get in contact with any old marrows that are still around, Paul Thompson or John Wright, please e-mail me on this address : den_dor2002@yahoo.com.au
Denny Breeze <den_dor2002@yahoo.com.au>
Albion Park, New South Wales Australia - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:31:32 (PST)
How many of you went outside on New Years Eve and saw the man with as many noses on his face as in the year.???? Do any of you remember the Bottle House Ghost???? My toast to all residents of Seaham...."may ya live as lang as ya want an niver want as lang as ya live" HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Julie <Oakbrookes@aol.com>
Morrisville, PA USA - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:29:46 (PST)
Tommy Moreland would you be the Moreland's that lived bottom door next to the railway line at Dawdon?,I am not sure what street, but I think it was the next street over from Seaham Street.My name Jack Charlton used to live top door Longnewton Street opposite Birch Smith's shop
Jack Charlton <syack@talkgas.net>
Seaham, Durham England - Sunday, January 05, 2003 at 12:27:59 (PST)
To No Name, please remember me to Peter Parkinson (84). He is one of the finest men I have ever had the privilege of knowing. A true gentleman, and a honest fellow to boot. This is from Tom Moreland (Dawdon), of Peter Parkinson's Dawdon Hotel, and Edinburgh Castle days.
Tom Moreland <dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:14:52 (PST)
miss markie could u please keep your comments of war to yourself. we get enough of this daily on the news. just think how many of our forces could lose their lives in this meaningless act, and their families who have to pick up the pieces. we dont need to hear it on our guestbook also we hear enough.i myself i am having a hard time coming to terms with the thought of my son maybe having to go and fight as all other families will no doubt be feeling the same. so please could u keep the thought of war from this page. i enjoy coming in here to read the postings and have had a good laugh at some of them so lets keep it free of ugly talk. ps dont post a posting offering prayers as in this case prayers dont help as i will still feel the same ANGRY
No Name <spiritdancer41uk@hotmail.com>
- Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:13:40 (PST)
I stumbled across this site and thought it would be interesting. I was born in Easington but left the area when I was young. I have family still there and my Dad goes back to visit often. I thought I would find likewise people trying to gather up the threads of a family on the guestbook instead Iread of war and such. There is enough fear of war in reality please keep it out of a Seaham guestbook
Janet Smith <janetsmith10@bigpond.com>
Warnbro, WA Australia - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:11:08 (PST)
Pangloss, Dolphin in the Harbour is an imposter (do not be fooled!). Hope you had a good yule, will see you in Sussex for one of the gigs...
Kinky John
- Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:09:09 (PST)
I heard that two Iraqi refugees were verbally discriminated against, whilst quietly drinking in the Red Star over the Christmas period. I think this is a total disgrace. The offender was described as a very drunk man - that rules out half of the town's population...
Ned Leather
Seaham, - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:08:32 (PST)
Jackie Markie, please note there's no such thing as American spelling, we don't mind you Yanks and converted Yanks using our language, but use it do not abuse it!
Wise One
- Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:07:29 (PST)
A very happy, healthy and prosperous 2003 to all in Seaham, at Seaham Online and its GuestBook users.Anyone who remembers me from Deneside Junior School, 1950-57, Seaham Girls' Grammar, 1967-63 or Ryhope Grammar, 1963-65 please get in touch.
Anne(Knowles)Storey <anne.storey@virgin.net>
Grimsby, North East Lincolnshire UK - Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:06:42 (PST)
Same to you Frank, all the best Marra
Not Thomas Johnson
- Friday, January 03, 2003 at 14:04:23 (PST)
Jackie Markie, Do you ever have any original thoughts of your own? You're always quoting someone else from Mother's Teresa and Angelica, all sorts of newspaper headlines ad infinitum (get your dictionary out Lass!) I read in the paper recently that Aliens landed in the good old US of A many years ago and spread a virus which makes all US Citizens into second rate nonentaties! Does this strike a bell?
Wise One
- Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 14:42:44 (PST)
Jacqueline.....MaryMarkie...whoever you are....You seem to be very excited at the thoughts of a war with Iraq. How about using all the energy which you put into these remarks on some "Down to earth Prayers" that we DO NOT have any more wars. I went through the WWII in England and it is not fun.I am not a very religious person but if prayers will help avert any kind of war I appreciate any effort that is forthcoming. We don't need any more dead military heroes.
Julie <Oakbrookes@aol.com>
Morrisville, Lower Bucks PA USA - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 14:41:42 (PST)
Okay guys and gals...we ALL need to start praying.... Now with South Korea protesting Anti-Americans...North Korea is urging South Korea to back it's confrontation with the USA over the Nuclear Program. (Program - American spelling.)Oh I don't know you all...but I am very concerned indeed about this issue with Korea it appears morday, January 02, 2003 at 14:40:02 (PST)
Dolphin in the harbour - don't I know you young fellow? I shall speak to father Corrigan about you. PS. You might want to check the grammar of the last two words of your message.......
Dr Pangloss
- Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 14:38:41 (PST)
Thank you all for supporting and contributing towards the Guestbook during 2002. The 2003 Guestbook (this one) is now active.
Ed Mason <mace@daltonet.com>
Seaham, Durham UK - Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 14:37:59 (PST)
how to spell "Arrogant". Its a sad to witness a fellow mammal covering his insecurity with a pretend education.
Dolphin in the Harbour
Seaham, - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:32:00 (PST)
I agree with Candite, Pangloss, stop your Nitpicking or is it knitpicking? why don't you write something interesting for a change, you are a pain not only in your language but in "another region" also, so come on lad get constructive and dare I say it? get less ARRAGONT Oh and a happy New Year to you too.
Wise One
- Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:30:50 (PST)
peter parkinson is 84 and is a world recognised breeder of english bull terriers. he should be best remembered for saving the lives of over 100 men in an incident involving a man riding set at dawdon pit in approx 1959.
No Name
- Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:30:02 (PST)
I would like to take a minute to say "HAPPY NEW YEAR!" to all the good people of Seaham and especially my good friends NTJ,Frank W.,Tony and all my Cousins.
Frank X. Riley <FXROhio@aol.com>
LaHabra, California USA - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:29:14 (PST)
Welll...wouldn't you know what I have just read from the headlines of the newspaper "USA Today." That if USA is planning an attack on North Korea, North Korea "VOWS it will fight until the last man."............Oh yes, folks of Seaham...Don't you be kidding yourselves that North Korea is not rebuilding their Nuclear weapons for no reason...Yes! People, I bet by the year 2004 or 2005 we will have a full world castrophe! And we will be brought into the "One World Government." None of us will have our freedom as we know it. Oh I am telling you...we are in for a big rude awakening! ............I hope y'all have a very happy New Year!!! Have fun, but stay safe..no drinking and driving..use your heads and have a friend or Taxi take you home. God Bless!
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:27:28 (PST)
Despite the passing of these many years you still have trouble spelling your own name my dear Candide. Never mind , I'm sure you'll manage it one day. To those who CAN spell their names - I send greetings for the New Year.....
Dr Pangloss
- Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:25:56 (PST)
my life dream is one time in touer ireland.two three month visit a ireland. irish public nuture is good.
bharatkumar <yahoo.baraiyabk.com>
ahmedabad, gujarat india - Wednesday, January 01, 2003 at 09:25:16 (PST)
Pangloss! You were a pain with your language when I knew you a few centuries ago and you haven't improved. Leave our poor Yankee, kind of Eglish lass alone. At least she's honest in her opinions and philosophy unlike the disaster you were and still are.
Candite
Paris, France - Monday, December 30, 2002 at 14:01:17 (PST)
Some of you may know Ralph Dickinson who lived at Parkside. Ralph has now been elevated to the ranks of the Chelsea Pensioners. Check it out at http://www.seaham.com/news/
Ed Mason <mace@daltonet.com>
Seaham, Durham UK - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 14:35:06 (PST)
In response to Miss Markies comments on War the only two people that should be at war are Mr Warmongering Bush and Tony Blair. Let them both loose in Iraq and that should sort out there problems
John Spenxer <jaspencer8mvent@aol.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire England - Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 14:33:51 (PST)
Jacqueline. My very dear old thing. Twice you write 'ARRAGONT' Is this simply another example of chronic American misspelling or are you thinking of Catherine of Aragon ? (Like you a historical figure of doubtful substantiation) Far be it from me to suggest a new years resolution but a little concentration in the spelling department would be a kindness to us all. Did you learn nothing in your Seaham schooling? Arragont indeed!
Dr Pangloss
- Sunday, December 29, 2002 at 14:31:46 (PST)
was John G Barron, he was born in Seaham and went on to live in New Brancepeth. He joined the 2nd Tyneside Scottish, 21st Northumberland Fusiliers. He fought at the Somme in 1916 and was captured in 1918. I would greatly appreciate any information on this man! Thanks David Hall
David Hall <david.l.hall@blueyonder.co.uk>
Wallsend, Tyne and Wear England - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 17:03:29 (PST)
50 degrees - Southerners turn on the heating - people in Sunderland plant gardens. 40 degrees - Southerners shiver uncontrollably - people in Sunderland sunbathe. 35 degrees - Southern cars will not start - people in Sunderland drive with the windows down. 20 degrees - Southerners wear coats, gloves and wool hats people in Sunderland throw on a T-shirt(girls start wearing mini-skirts). 15 degree - Southerners begin to evacuate - people in Sunderland go swimming in the North Sea. Zero degrees - Southern landlords turn up the heat - people in Sunderland have the last BBQ before it gets cold. Minus 10 degrees - Southerners cease to exist - people in Sunderland throw on a lightweight jacket. Minus 80 degrees - Polar bears wonder if it's worth it - boy scouts in Sunderland start wearing long trousers. Minus 100 degrees - Santa Claus abandons the North Pole - people in Sunderland put on their long johns. Minus 173 degrees - alcohol freezes - people in Sunderland get frustrated because the pubs are shut. Minus 460 degrees - All atomic motion stops - people in Sunderland start to stamp their feet and blow on their hands. Minus 500 degrees - Hell freezes over - Sunderland qualify for Europe
sherwood forester
newark, notts uk - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 17:02:04 (PST)
To MacTabash , thanks for the inclusion in your Xmas wish list,it's wistful though , I doubt there will ever be 11 Bothams ,but your lot seem to be thinking right , your highest score was made by Craig White , he was born over here , our second best team beat them ,and we would have another six teams who can't get a look in , so send your scouts over here and make some deals with them and you will have a much better team . It is becoming boring with a script which seems to be written in stone .Tomorrow is another day , best of luck and the best of the seasons greetings to you all , Oz-Brian
Oz Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 16:59:52 (PST)
Hello! And What did I tell you all? I told you all that we were going to go to War with Iraq and when we do...God Help us! It was said in the CNN News Headlines yesterday (December 27th) That a "War with Iraq will be a "Human Disaster." Now we have North Korea who are relentless about rebuilding their Nuclear Weapons. .................Mother Teresa said, "The fruit of Abortion is Nuclear War." And the latest..The first human baby cloned! (We are still waiting to find out if it is for real or a hoax.) If it is for real....then we, as human beings have become so arragont! How dare we think we can clone humans. How can these "things" be normal? How dare we think we can be God. Mother Angelica (from EWTN Catholic Television Station.) Said, "Woe to us when we start human cloning." ..........People! take a look around you..just look at our world - at our society. it is hardly recognisable. Mother Angleica said, "By the year 2004 we will not recognise society as we know it.! "....That is almost true to this day. Morals and family values have gone right out of the window! Parents are buying their children these violent video games, and think nothing of it - of the affects it is having on our children. it desensitizes our kids from any sense of violence..even violence of abuse to women. On the moral issue: take a look around you! See what is going on...I am telling you, people, we had all better get ourselves put right with God and with each other this coming New Year, because 2003 is only the beginning of very frightening and uncertain times ahead of us. And do you know what? We have done this ourselves..all because of greed and selfishness; and not willing to forgive each other, let "bygones be bygones" We have done this to ourselves because of our own arragonce...and now we are paying the price. Those of you who are parents the greatest gift you can give to your children is the "gift of faith" and the gift of "boundaries." I pray for each and eve! ryone of us and especially for all the soldiers and their families who are preparing for a very uncertain War with Iraq in the next coming weeks. Take care everyone and God Bless..your friend...Jacqueline.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 16:58:11 (PST)
To A Green, my grandmother was Hanna M. Green.lived in Seaham prior to 1900, married to John Thomas from South Wales.moved to Horden around 1900/1903,Jack Thomas
jack thomas <jackthomas1@bigpond.com>
brisbane, queensland australia - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 16:55:32 (PST)
A Happy New Year to all Seaham folk from this part of our lovely, the only country in the world worth living in. B.
Brian <beresford.b@btopenworld.com>
nettley abbey, hampshire uk - Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 16:54:17 (PST)
Wise one ......? At last some festive humour.
Dr Pangloss
- Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 16:53:01 (PST)
Greetings from Sunny Florida! I drove from Atlanta, to Orlando on Christmas Eve (8 hours) to be with dear,, dear friends for Christmas... having a brilliant time! Weather is beautiful! Hope y'all are having a super, duper, fun and merry Christmas..and ejoyed eating lots of Turkey! God Bless...
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
Florida for the holidays, USA - Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 07:35:18 (PST)
everyoneA merry Xmas and a happy New Year to everyone, whether they know me or not.
Wise One
- Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 13:28:30 (PST)
A Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to anyone who knows me .
John Spencer <jaspencer8mvent@aol.com>
Portsmouth, Hampshire England - Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 16:41:06 (PST)
: I believe in the Sun, Even when it's not shining. I believe in Love, Even when I feel it not. I believe in God, Even when he is silent. Never argue with a stupid person. First they'll drag you down to their level, then they will beat you with experience. Faith sees the invisible, Feels the intangible, And achieves the impossible. Our eyes are placed in front because it is more important to look ahead than look back.
Wise One
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 16:39:11 (PST)
Frank Stubbs - would that be the Surrey Stubbs? Perhaps not. Did I detect the word THESAURUS in your missive .... now there's a big word! Fear not Francis, big words don't bite. Even ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM has a place in the world. I send you, despite your discommodious behaviour, greetings for the festive terratinations.
Dr Pangloss
- Tuesday, December 24, 2002 at 16:37:35 (PST)
Dear Sadie, if people are to exchange Christmas Greetings using this Guest Book over the next few days then you need to update the site on a more regular basis, it's really poor right now with no continuity about it. I know the reason is to keep filth off the Guest Book, but please try to check it out at least a couple of times a day over the week or so. Oh - by the way - MERRY CHRISTMAS
Not Thomas Johnson
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:24:52 (PST)
Dr Pangloss give us a rest and let us have a peaceful Christmas. you are a spent force.
Candite
Paris, france - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:23:24 (PST)
I must say, there's nothing big or clever about posting to the GB using a thesaurus or dictionary. Merry Christmas and all that twaddle!
Frankie Stubbs <frankiescoat@hotmail.com>
- Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:21:46 (PST)
Hi Ed and Sadie, thank you for all your hard work over the year. I know it must seem unappreciated at times but the silent majority value it. Merry Christmas, and best wishes for the New Year to you and all your readers, Regards TOM
Thomas S Moreland <Dadmoreland1@aol.com>
London, - Monday, December 23, 2002 at 15:18:55 (PST)
McTabash, glad to see that I am on your wish list. Happy Christmas Guestbookers!
Kinky John
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 15:02:41 (PST)
Monstrous good dear thing! You are as ever well informed as to the contents of a chap's undercard. Yes, he of the slippery hand will be working his inestimable magic. With such a well versed audience I shall have to polish up my venials. When I have my facts marshalled I will communicate them to you forthwith.
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 15:02:06 (PST)
A Durham lad is drinking in a London bar when he gets a call on his cell phone. He hangs up, grinning from ear to ear, and orders a round of drinks for everyone in the bar because, he announces, his wife has just delivered a typical County Durham baby boy weighing in at just under twenty five pounds. Nobody can believe that any new baby can weigh nearly 25 pounds, but the Durham lad, from the Easington district, just shrugs, Thats about average for my neck of the woods, like I said, my boys a typical Easington bairn. Congratulations showered him from all around, and many exclamations of WOW were heard. One woman actually fainted due to sympathy pains. Two weeks later the Easington lad returns to the bar. The bartender says, Say, youre the father of that typical Easington baby that weighed almost 25 pounds at birth, arent you? Everybodys been making bets on how big he would be when we next saw you. So how much does he weigh now? The proud father answers, Nineteen pounds. The bartender is puzzled and concerned. What happened? He weighed 25 pounds the day he was born. The Easington father takes a slow swig from his beer, wipes his mouth on his sleeve, leans over the bartender and proudly says, We had him circumcised.
Easington Lad
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 15:01:14 (PST)
Dear "Mactabash" Thank you so much for thinking of me and for the beautiful Christmas wish. I too, so much pray to meet a wonderful young man sometime this year..I enjoy being single; it is fun, but, I would also do well to be married to a super, kind, fun husband..who loves his Christian/Catholic faith. So, I appreicate you thinking of me and keeping me on your Christmas wish. As for the President..well...what can I say? He is war-mongering, along with Tony Blair until we go to war! and God Help us! As for everything else, well..I am rather content, and looking forwad to a fulfilled new year of 2003. I wish everyone else well too and hope all goals and desires come true. God Bless y'all, be back soon.
Jacqueline <marymarkie@aol.com>
USA - Friday, December 20, 2002 at 14:59:23 (PST)
Festive Greetings Have a Great Christmas & New Year
Tommy Armthwaite
- Friday, December 20, 2002 at 14:57:38 (PST)
To MasTabash, Thanks for the appreciation. It's nice to know some people are enjoying the Guest Book. Mery Christmas to you all from Ed and Myself.
Sadie M
Seaham, Durham UK - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:09:21 (PST)
Am I the only person having trouble downloading this GB? PS. Happy Christmas to all Seaham folk.
Steve Smith <stevesails54@hotmail.com>
Uxbridge, Middlesex UK - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:06:53 (PST)
climes at the very endmost extremity of that month which we name after the Roman deity Janus. I shall be on a speaking tour where I will illuminate such as the cost of a pint in Seaham amongst other stuff. Peter Sinclair Seaham, - Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 16:03:45 (PST) What aload of rubbish
The Joker
- Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:05:14 (PST)
My wish list for Christmas..Thomas Johnson a fiver so he can buy me those beers he promised.Ms. Jacqueline Mary Markie PMT, a new President, a new Man and a new Target .Dr Pangloss & Kinky John. A Tardis and the assistance of a real Doctor (Who) to transport their inner beings back from endmost extremities of whatever time warp they have become entrapped..Oz Brian A worthy visiting cricket team comprising of 11 Ian Bothams and the help 2 bent umpires..Tony from Spain a boat trip to Seaham DockThe good people of Seaham An open day and free bar on Tonys boat..The AGB Continued silence..Ed & Sadie My thanks for a great website.Have a great Christmas everyone.
MacTabash
- Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:03:04 (PST)
Pangloss, my good lady and I have already planned to attend at least one of your Sussex dates. Is it true that Jimmy Handtricks is on the undercard?
Kinky John
- Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 15:00:51 (PST)
Who's Carol?.....can I have her phone number
sherwood forester
Newark, Notts - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 14:59:28 (PST)
Who are you Bob Symonds,do I know you
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Thursday, December 19, 2002 at 14:58:02 (PST)
Book's been re-formatted, print is very small these days!
Not Thomas Johnson
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 15:37:38 (PST)
Ah well, dear sir. I will be giving my lecture in Sussex on two occasions that very same week. Unless you know of any learned societies, wistful of hearing me prate, in your great conurbation, I fear that Sussex will be my nearest to you.
Dr Pangloss
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 15:36:59 (PST)
A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales. The Teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a Human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very small. The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale. Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it was physically impossible. The little girl said, "When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah". The teacher asked, "What if Jonah went to hell?" The little girl replied, "Then you ask him".
The Joker
- Tuesday, December 17, 2002 at 15:35:49 (PST)
harborlad we need to establish a time to be on the chatroom, how about 10-00pm? (most nights)
Johns lad
- Friday, December 13, 2002 at 16:02:43 (PST)
Dr P, I will have retired South by then. Are you planning to do a canny turn whilst you are there? ..maybe I'll catch you on your way up.
Kinky John
- Friday, December 13, 2002 at 16:01:39 (PST)
Three men died on Christmas Day and were met by Saint Peter at the pearly gates. "In honour of the season" Saint Peter said, "you must each possess something that symbolizes Christmas to get into heaven on this holy day". The first man fumbled through his pockets and pulled out a lighter. He flicked it on. "It represents a holy candle" he said. "You may pass through the pearly gates" Saint Peter said. The second man reached into his pocket and pulled out a set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're bells". Saint Peter said "you may pass through the pearly gates". The third man started searching desperately through his pockets and finally pulled out a pair of women's panties. "What do these symbolize?" Saint Peter asked. The man replied, "They're Carols
The Joker
- Friday, December 13, 2002 at 16:00:49 (PST)
climes at the very endmost extremity of that month which we name after the Roman deity Janus. I shall be on a speaking tour where I will illuminate such as the cost of a pint in Seaham amongst other stuff.
Peter Sinclair
Seaham, - Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 16:03:45 (PST)
with all the money getting spent on seaham which is long overdue, a thought came to me with the history of seaham been built on coal do any other people think it is time a new memorial should be built with the names of all the miners killed in our pits.to take pride of place in the new shopping centre that is going to be built on the old docks. this would be a permanent reminder to our future generations,what seaham was built on.[BLOOD&TEARS]
joe williams <murphygrowl@aol.com>
seaham, durham england - Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 16:02:48 (PST)
Its good to see the home town on the map. I left in 1977 to join the RAF, I've not been back for some time now but would like to hear from old school mates. Where are they now?? Dek Rochester, Dave Ritchie, Steve Williams, Brian Lisgo, Brian Marwood, Dave Harrison, Vanessa Hall, Susan Reay to name but a few. If your out there drop me a line
Mike Ward <cspfrim@mfo.org>
El Gorah, Sinai Egypt - Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 15:56:44 (PST)
does anyone ever use the harbour chat room. every time I visit their's no one there.
harbour lad
- Thursday, December 12, 2002 at 15:54:03 (PST)
To Zero, Ed's fine and so is Gayle. Hope you ae well too.
Sadie Mason
Seaham, UK - Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 15:17:38 (PST)
Hello Tony from Spain
Bob Symonds
- Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 15:16:09 (PST)
Dear chap, I shall be in the Northern climes at the very endmost extremity of that month which we name after the Roman deity Janus. I shall be on a speaking tour where I will illuminate such subjects as "Music - is it or is it not?". I trust I might find you in the audience...?
Dr Pangloss
- Wednesday, December 11, 2002 at 15:14:34 (PST)
Dr P, my fettle is in the finest order following my recent trip down under. I plan to visit the red velvet seats of home over the Yule. Have you any plans to do the same?
Kinky John
- Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:47:19 (PST)
Love Seaham and coffee and tea rooms on the front
Barbara
gloucester, glos england - Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:44:25 (PST)
Vicci , good for you , stick up for your town , and yourself , don't let anyone get you down , Oz-Brian
Oz Brian <balhaven@iprimus.com.au>
South Australia - Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:43:04 (PST)
Seasons greetings to all visitors to the online community. Hello Mrs Mason How is your Gayle, haven't seen her for ages hope Ed is well. Nice to see that Seaham raises such a variety of topics(Scots, food, pubs,and even "thanks to Ms Markie"politics and religion) and there's me thinking that the education system was in decline oh well guess I learned something at school after all. On another note on back tracking down the guest book Michael Bunnage is alive and well living in Milton Keynes. Bye for now
Zero <zero000@talk21.com>
Seaham, - Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:41:03 (PST)
Pssst! I keep on having to rush to the dictionary to find out what Dr.P has said
Bessie Braddock
- Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:39:13 (PST)
TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING AMERICAN 1. You can have a woman president without electing her. 2. You can spell colour wrong and get away with it. 3. You can call Budweiser beer. 4. You can be a crook and still be president. 5. If you've got enough money you can get elected to do anything. 6. If you can breathe you can get a gun. 7. You can invent a new public holiday every year. 8. You can play golf in the most hideous clothes ever made and nobody seems to care. 9. You get to call everyone you've never met "buddy." 10.With very little effort you can annoy the French!
Jims Mate
- Tuesday, December 10, 2002 at 12:38:16 (PST)
Well, my dear Jonathan. I have, it is true, suffered the merest tickle of desuetude but all that is now behind me. I am now largely equipped with the finest that the great forests and mines of central europe can offer and my capacities are now enormous, to say the least. And you dear thing, peregrenations terminated?
Dr Pangloss
- Friday, December 06, 2002 at 15:11:01 (PST)
My parents come from Seaham and I am looking for my cousin Angela Swift. DOB 3. 12 53 father called Billy
Diane Ward <DIANEWARD25>
Wellingborough, N/Hamptonshire UK - Friday, December 06, 2002 at 15:09:25 (PST)
Dr Pangloss are you out there? I've heard that you've had PC troubles lately...
Kinky John
- Wednesday, December 04, 2002 at 16:38:44 (PST)
Jacqueline, my poppet, you say in your note that life in Seaham - "taught me to appreciate". It's a shame it didn't teach you to spell. Who was your primary teacher?
John Dingwell
- Tuesday, December 03, 2002 at 15:37:49 (PST)
: nice site
AGBOGA <AGBOGA@MUGU.COM>
Iomi, togo - Tuesday, December 03, 2002 at 15:36:47 (PST)
Seaham is full of hidden history still yet to find! I live in seaham and it's a great community, I am 12 years of age, who lives in neasham rd
Vicci frater
Seaham, Durham England - Tuesday, December 03, 2002 at 15:35:32 (PST)
Dear Seaham Harbour, Is there anyone who can help me trace a person called Hannah M Green who lived in Seaham Harbour in 1887, 8 or 9. I am living in Canada and a letter was found from this person when my wife's Great Aunt died in Ontario last year. Her family came from England , probably Leeds in around 1911. The strange aspect is that I have a daughter who is also called Hannah M Green who was born in the UK. Today I also found a Queen Victoria Jubilee Medal dated 1887 from Seaham Harbour.Also my Father's family came from Tow Law in County Durham . Any help in tracing this person would be appreciated. thank you,
Ian A. Green
- Tuesday, December 03, 2002 at 15:33:58 (PST)
Mr Johnson (NTJ) I like your sense/humor, any more like that? Jackie Markie, Where you spring from? you seem to talk a lot,
Johns Lad
- Sunday, December 01, 2002 at 14:29:48 (PST)
John's Lad..Still posting silly messages I see,you should get to-gether with Markie she has an annoying habit of doing that,at least you know the meaning of brevity and thank heavens you don't preach.
Tony from Spain
Espana, - Sunday, December 01, 2002 at 14:28:59 (PST)